Thursday, March 16, 2017

WHAT CHANGE?



ZOLTAN: "I feel sorry that Archbishop Michael felt necessary to effect these regulation."

THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH: REDEMPTIONIS SACRAMENTUM [19.] The diocesan Bishop, the first steward of the mysteries of God in the particular Church entrusted to him, is the moderator, promoter and guardian of her whole liturgical life.[39] For “the Bishop, endowed with the fullness of the Sacrament of Order, is ‘the steward of the grace of the high Priesthood’,[40] especially in the Eucharist which he either himself offers or causes to be offered,[41] by which the Church continually lives and grows”.[42]

ZOLTAN: "The requirement of celebrating the Eucharist at a consecrated altar will upset the communities."

THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH: Can.  932 §1. The eucharistic celebration is to be carried out in a sacred place unless in a particular case necessity requires otherwise; in such a case the celebration must be done in a decent place.

ZOLTAN: "I am ready to embrace the change."

THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH: What change?

25 comments:

  1. Don't speak for all of us Zoltan... I am not upset... I will obey CoAdj Michael

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  2. "What change?" Exactly. But if all they know is the error of what has been forced on them, yeah, this will be brand new.

    All Abp Byrnes did was invoke the liturgy of the Church. Go figure.

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  3. How is celebrating the Eucharist at a consecrated altar upsetting? Are you serious?

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  4. Why would it upset the communities to celebrate the Holy SACRIFICE of the Mass at a consecrated ALTAR?? Because they don't believe in the sacrificial nature of the Holy Mass, only the horizontal "meal" imagery... kumbayah and the equivalent... tamborines... never mind the awe-ful moment of being in the presence of Calvary itself. Thank you Archbishop Byrnes for being faithful to your calling as a true Shepherd in this regard of safeguarding the purity of the sacred Liturgy.

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  5. Come to think of it. NCW should simply show the permission to celebrate the mass the way they have been celebrating. You mean they will just follow just like that. You mean they have not found the document up to now. Anyways, they have two more weeks to find it.

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  6. If all the Masses (including those of the Neos) are celebrated the same way, then why should the Neos have a separate schedule for their Mass? Also, it will up to be the celebrants (priests/presbyters) to make sure the Neo mass is celebrated according to the GIRM. If the Neos want to do it any other way, they are free to do it outside of the Catholic Church (i.e., set up their own churches).

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    1. The music at those masses is terrible. Instead of singing it is more like shouting. And don't forget the clap clap clapping👏
      I for one do not want to hear everybody give a holy. Fr Michael is bad enough. Can you imagine all the community members preaching their mini homilies?
      Let them dance around the altar, I prefer to pray in from of the blessed sacrament after my masses.
      As for Byrnes- thanks! Hopefully after they refuse to comply you can finally send these gypsies packing.

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  7. ah yes, "special character" indeed. zoltan predictably plays the victim card, as if going to Mass in a real church before a consecrated altar was some form of torture.

    and yet, zoltan's very words show how so very non-Catholic the neocat teaching truly is, and how the ncw's members have been so deprived of true Catholic worship that they'd find it upsetting having to go to Mass in a church!

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    1. Zoltan practiced and attended Saturday vigil mass last weekend at St Francis church. How cool is that!

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    2. Wow! Saturday!

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    3. Doesn't the Zoltan and the NCW celebrate on Saturdays anyway? Nothing different.

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  8. And the NCW mass should be OPEN TO ALL. . . So, we all should be welcome to attend their Saturday evening mass.

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    1. Why would you want to attend the NCW celebration when it is not a Mass. The NCW Saturday evening celebration is a Protestant-Judeo gathering that tries to portray the characteristics of the Mass but is actually empty of any divine content and therefore it is not a Mass. At this celebration they do NOT consume the Body and Blood of Christ. We should stop referring to this NCW celebration as a mass or Eucharist when is clearly not.

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    2. The NCW is not Catholic.

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  9. Will the NCW still be able to sneak off to hotels and hold their séances there?
    Agnes

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    1. Be assured that they will continue to do whatever they want. If they can blatantly disobey the pope, as they did in 2006 when Kiko told Benedict to take his instruction and shove it, they won't even sneeze at Byrnes. It will be very much up to Byrnes how he intends to police these scoundrels and what the consequences will be.

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    2. Byrnes must hold the priests accountable on how they celebrate the Mass, and where, for the Neos.

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  10. The Change in the Liturgy that Zoltan is referring to is the fact that the NCW has deviated from what the Church of Christ prescribed is the proper liturgical norms necessary to preserve the sacredness of this Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and the fact that the NCW celebrates their liturgy anywhere without any sense of what is sacred. They will probably celebrate their liturgy on a park table if they have their gathering there. To them they are celebrating a happy meal, and not a sacrifice, therefore, no altar but a banquet table.

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  11. Byrnes appointing a priest-delegate to deal with the lying Neocats is a good move. Hopefully, he can kick them totally out of the local Church.

    Otherwise, all Byrnes is doing is enforcing the GIRM as he should and disgracefully opposing child protection laws which he should not. He's protecting Apuron.

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    1. No, he's not. And he'll soon be calling off the legal dogs who are doing this-a law firm from Calif that he was saddled with by Hon.

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    2. does this mean that only jiving jackie terlaje will be left to represent apuron? Oh, Joy!

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  12. "Invitation To Jive"

    Are you looking for a new community to join? Is everything on hold? No worries. Come to the initial "catekooksis" of the Novacamachomenal Path taking place every third Monday of the month unless it coincides with a full moon. Then the meeting moves to the second Monday. Each meeting is 17 hours so please bring a snack.

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  13. The Zoltan is just trying to protect his financial interests with the NCW because they pay him (tax free income) for teaching whatever he teaches at the RMS.

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    1. You know for sure Zoltan is now teaching at RMS??
      If this is confirmed it would be a new development.
      Please advise.

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