"Do you know what is the funniest thing about all this? That one day this blog will disappear, one day Tim will die, janet will die, Mary will die...Anonymous will die...and yet Jesus Christ will be announced and many people saved through the Way..." - A Friend
There you go my Catholic friends. There it is. This is what they are taught. Reminds me of my born again friend who believed Catholics weren't saved and were going to hell unless they joined his church. Time to leave the neo parishes, put your wallets away, and WALK. Walk away.
P.S. I was waiting for the motivation to publish my second letter to Cardinal O'Brien. This comment provided it. Stay tuned.
To "A Friend", I wouldn't count my eggs before they hatch. St. Peter may not be so receptive to allow someone to enter with such a shmuck sureness of an attitude. I struggle daily to open my heart and eyes to God and this is the only thing I am sure of: God is merciful. So, after we all disappear including you, and you find yourself looking up at us, we will be merciful and pray for you. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteYes, but you are still going to die...me too I will die.
ReplyDeleteThat's why what you are doing is very serious.
Where is the lie in my word? That's true we will die and yet Jesus Christ will be announced and many people will find Jesus Christ in the Way. if I say a lie you are right but if do not lie, why do you accuse me?
You accuse the way of leaving the chûrch but yet people come come back and claim the are catholic and have found God. You actions are from jealousy. You don't get the attention you want so you go against what gets the attèntion so you get revenge of what has taken it from you.
ReplyDeleteVictory Chapel is always accepting Catholics who WALK AWAY.
ReplyDeleteGo, and bring your wallets with you.
This is the best advice that Tim has given thus far.
Anyways, there are only a few "non-neo" parishes as Tim refers to them as, so go. I think Tim wants everyone to follow him up to the friary, time for the friary to expand the chapel.
This is just another classic example of how Tim takes what was said and applies his method of understanding.. The writer clearly stated that "many" will be saved, but Tim has gone ahead and defined it as "all" will only be saved through the way. In regards to Tim, CLASSIC!
So Tim is your pope? Good, were the same
DeleteIn heaven St. Peter was talking to various religious groups. In one room he welcomed, the Methodist. They followed him to a room full of Episcopalians. They in turned walked further down the hall to a room full of Baptists. Two doors down they met the Catholics. As they all got together, they shared their beliefs. St. Peter said we need to gather the others, but please be quite as we walk down this hall way. The Neocatecumenal think they're the on,y ones here.
DeleteOMG...I love that story. Glad they are saved, but there is a lot of truth in the "they think they are the only ones here"
DeleteLOL
Let's review. In 2005 you were told by Rome to conform your liturgies, especially in the manner of distributing Holy Communion, to the liturgical books - meaning you were to do as the rest of us. The leaders of the NCW said "we will not obey", and they did not. In 2008, your statute was approved with the same demand that you conform your liturgy to the liturgical books. Your leaders said "we will not obey". This Saturday you will go to your Eucharist and you will receive communion in a manner not in conformity with the liturgical books, and in doing so, you will say "we will not obey". And you tell us many will be saved through this?
ReplyDeleteSo it's been this way for awhile, a cry long while. Is it a problem? If so why doesn't Rome do something about it? From reading your blog, this seems like the biggest issues, next to the Archbishop not tending to your attention.
DeleteYou are confused, dear Tim. I have already explained it to you once, but you do not heed. Before the Arinze letter it was possible to receive communion in the Way while sitting. The letter asked the faithful to stand up while receiving communion. There was a time of transition allowed to make this change. When the Statutes of the Way were accepted, this requirement was included in the regulations and the communities all required the regulation to be followed. This guaranteed conformity with the liturgical books.
DeleteWhat Tim is talking about is a different thing, the immediate vs. contemplated consumption of the Host. This should not be confused with the Arinze letter. In the Way, during communion the Eucharistic Host is kept in one's palm for a short period of time for contemplation. This is also a technical necessity because in a small community setup, there is no sufficient space for the faithful to line up for Communion. This should be taken into consideration when we interpret the words of the liturgical books.
Therefore a contemplated consumption of the Host is to occur at the Way's celebrations of the Eucharist. This is absolutely in compliance with the spirit of the regulations.
Read also here: http://neocatheart.blogspot.com/
DeleteNever thought of that but is sounds good, Pope Tim!
ReplyDeleteSince the manner in which the NCW receives communion is wrong then not "all" will be saved indeed. The only ones that will be saved will be those who receive communion the right way. Which is on the tongue right? Thanks for clarifying.
Your personal attacks make it obvious that you are unable to refute the facts. Feel free to further incriminate yourself. You attempt to malign me with your "Pope Tim", however, it is not I who disobey Rome, it is you. And it has nothing to do with receiving on the tongue. The liturgical books require consumption of the sacred species immediately upon reception. The NCW does not do that. The NCW refuses to obey. Kiko is your pope. Try to prove the facts wrong instead of just trying to discredit me.
ReplyDeleteThat's all you got? I'm pretty sure Rome sees it like you do , but allow us to continue. They have 3x the amount of NCW members compared to Guam maybe even more. Your just having a hard time accepting it.
DeleteWhat is going on here!!! Leave us Catholics alone...Why don't you all go to ROME then...
ReplyDeleteKeep up the good work TIM...We need to know the TRUTH!
"leave us Catholics alone" what? Whose not Catholic?
DeleteThe Neos come to our regular Catholic Mass and tell us that we are members of an inherently flawed religion, that Jesus does not exist within our religion. The Neos, when they proselytize to us during our Mass, make it very clear that there are two religions or churches or rites: the regular Catholics and the NCW. They also make it very clear that the regular Catholic religion is defective. It is not regular Catholics who have caused this schism; it is the Neos. We just want to be left alone and to have a bishop that believes in the regular Catholic Church and wants to invest the time, effort and treasure necessary to fix the regular Catholic Church on Guam, which has clearly fallen apart in the past 25 years. As it stands now, the current bishop appears happy to let the regular Catholic Church on Guam continue to falter and decay as part of his larger goal of replacing it with the NCW. You guys can have Apuron all to yourselves; but we also need a bishop. We need a leader that believes in the RCC and not someone who wants to replace it with the NCW.
DeleteThere is so much bitterness, anger and hatred going on in this blog. The silence of the Archbishop will truly destroy the church. Remember that the two most common phrase of the NEO is do not question and silence.
ReplyDeleteArchbishop, it is you, and you alone who can fix this.! Keeping silent will only contribute more. Are you silent because you have something to hide? Are you silent because your catechist says so? Put your arrogance, pride and power aside and be the man you are suppose to be. In other words FIX THE MESS!
This is Tim's mess... not the Archbishop...
ReplyDeleteThis is Tim's mess. Let him clean it up..
ReplyDeleteYes Tim knew exactly what he wanted to start. He just keeps using Fr. Pauls case as an excuse for all of this. How did the "neo" come into play here? Was it Tim? Was it Patti Arroyo? Fr. Paul? I just dont know. I guess things were getting a bit complacent and Tim decided it was time to rock the boat a little bit. The truth has definitely been revealed and according to my review of the blog I will now submit the truths that have been revealed.
ReplyDeleteTRUTHS
1. The NCW continues to receive communion in a manner that is not of the norms of the church.
2. Members of the NCW are asked to contribute money to the missions and have no problem doing so.
3. Members of the NCW believe that many will be saved through their itinerary.
4. The NCW celebrates the Sunday Mass within their small communities on Saturday evening. They also gather again during the week to have a Celebration of the Word.
5. The NCW continues to respect the Archbishop despite his humanness and vulnerability to failure.
So according to Tim, the NCW has its flaws and needs correction. So in the mean time it is okay to go ahead and bash the NCW for their failures. This is how we should respond to the NCW. Lets forget about all the good and lets just concentrate on getting rid of them. Lets treat them as we feel. Lets accuse them of being heretics. Let us see them now as Protestants. Let us remind them of their Pope Kiko. Let us tell them how dumb they are. Let us teach them how to read.
Let us be instruments of PEACE rather than weapons of WAR.