Wednesday, February 5, 2014

GOOD SUGGESTION

AnonymousFebruary 5, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Suggestion. If these NCW lay people will catechize this Sunday at Cathedral, I suggest we kneel down, take out our rosary and pray the rosary. Also, don't accept the kiko cards that they will be passing out. 

11 comments:

  1. If you do that though, the rest of the congregation may think youve mistaken the Cathedral Mass for Latin Mass at the Friary.

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    1. So here you see the real snide arrogance of the Neocatechumenal Way, demeaning, sneering, but more obvious, stupid, uninformed, and cancerously malignant in their hatred for the church that does not follow Kiko. Once again, the neos provide more evidence as to why the rest of us should never ever become one. You guys do a better job of that than I can.

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    2. I don't go to Mass at the friary. However, I know many of the people who do. In the main, I am extremely impressed with these people. They have a powerful love for Christ and His Church; and they are always at the vanguard of every battle in defense of the Church and against the purveyors of evil on Guam. Stop by the abortion clinic on Ypao any Saturday morning and ask the brave souls who are protesting there where they attend Mass. By and large, the response will be "at the friary." I'm not a Latin Mass junkie. I'm fine with the Norvus Ordo. But I have to admit that the Latin Mass people really blow me away. I would be a much better man if I had half their courage and conviction. Any attack on the friary Mass is woefully misplaced. In fact, it scares me to think that there are people on Guam who think that the Mass at the friary is a problem. The reason for my concern is that the Mass at the friary is just plain old orthodox; and, thus, an attack on it is really an attack on the Catholic liturgy itself. Is this disdain for the Mass at the friary a commonly held view among Neos or is "Anon Feb 5 at 11:47 pm" just an aberration?

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  2. Our people in this island, and I am a Chamorro, are just too polite and nice. We don't like to be "impolite". So they will take the cards passed out. If you mean take out the rosary and pray quietly, yes, that we can do. Actually, I got up, genuflected and waited outside until the Neos were done at the podium. Then I went back inside for the end of Mass. But to pray the rosary out loud while they give their advertisement would bring more disrespect to the Mass even though already our stomach is sour the moment a Neo gets up to talk. Just my opinion.

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    1. Well you can still be polite and say, "No Thanks" If you take these Kiko cards, the neocats see it as a way of planting the seed in you. If you go to the catechisis which usually is the following night, the neocats will preach about how they pass so many cards to people but whoever shows up, they will say that they answered the call of Jesus Christ. They will go on to say that the others who didn't come did not hear Jesus Christ

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  3. The true aberration is.....
    the NeoCatechumenal Way.

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    1. Correct. Most of us "unsalted" Catholics and "Judases" still have enough respect for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the Roman Catholic Church, our fellow Catholics, and even the office of the bishop (emphasis) on OFFICE, not to do something that would demonstrate irreverence and disrespect to the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ even if it is grossly wrong. The archbishop has depended on this reverence and respect to run roughshod over the Catholics of Guam for over two decades. Even if we can't do anything earthly about it, there is a much more fearsome judge. However, on an earthly level, the archbishop engaged in a little trickery (expected). He knows that the 9:30 is televised, and given my post yesterday, knew he had better not do his neo ad on television. So he moved it to the 7:30 and the otherwise unsuspecting congregation. How interesting that he did not host the neo ad at his regular Mass.

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    2. The televised 9:30 a.m. Sunday mass this morning did have a NCW woman who identified herself as Puerto Rican give an inarticulate testimony and invitation just after the archbishop's shortened homily. The archbishop gave his testimony and invitation after the new Hawaiian priest's shortened homily at the 11:30 a.m. mass. He explained how the NCW had enriched his spiritual life and priesthood in many ways via his involvement in a NCW community. It was such a positive and articulate testimony that I wondered why he didn't give the same testimony at his 9:30 a.m. mass. Neither testimony involved the usual embarrassing confessions that the NCW is known for. Perhaps the testimonies are more restrained since they are delivered in the cathedral, the mother church.

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    3. IF the Neo had respect for the Mass they would have themselves insisted that such an announcement be done after the mass, or during announcements near the end.

      I have been at other masses where the Keone's invited married couples to join an upcoming Marriage Encounter weekend. It was not a homily, I did not feel depressed or offended by their message. I know there are other groups on island whose goal is to bring people closer to God. But they are not "in your face" at mass. They recruit one on one. I don't understand why the NCW always has to depress you first to get you to join them?

      The Neo has no respect for the Mass because they view it as inferior to their "Eucharist". I was told that during the 9:30 mass none of the Neo team came up for communion, and that they all left the Church before the final blessing. No respect, even for their Archie, unless it is at one of their privileged gatherings.

      Very alarming and very sad.

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    4. Actually, I believe they left their seats before the final blessing to take their stations at each exit to distribute their "invitations."

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