Friday, August 29, 2014

COMMENTS ON ARCHBISHOP APURON'S COMMENTS TO THE FD STUDENTS

It's hard to know where to begin, but let's try.

...the issue was that he had an alleged sex offender working in the parish (___) then as a volunteer, and he saw nothing wrong with that. [The "issue was" that Archbishop Apuron incardinated and protected an alleged sex offender (Fr. John Wadeson) for over a decade and saw nothing wrong with that!] In the meantime, because there’s a school next door that had children and there’s always a danger that they can be at risk. [It is time for Mr. Lastimoza to sue this bishop for his continued public plastering him as a threat to children. He was not nor has he ever been.] So that was really what the case is about. And, so, please continue to pray for him. [So after defaming and slandering both Fr. Paul and Mr. Lastimoza AGAIN, the Archbishop calls on the students to pray for them.] And I’m really waiting for what’s now over a year, because it was July 16 of last year that that issue came to the forefront and it decided to go viral. ["It" decided to go viral.]


In the case of Monsignor James, there are lot of improprieties in terms of the finances of the Cathedral-Basilica and the cemetery, the Catholic Cemeteries, [In a letter dated August 19, 2014, Archbishop Apuron wrote to a representative of Msgr. James: I have not made any statements characterizing the re-ordering of administration of the Cathedral-Basilica and the Catholic Cemeteries, as "financial mismanagement." Yet in this address to the FD students, Archbishop Apuron assigns financial "improprieties" in regards to the management of the Cathedral-Basilica and the Catholic Cemeteries to Msgr. James. So either the Archbishop is lying to the "representative" or to the students.] and we’re now studying that assiduously, and it is because that we cannot get the Deloitte and Touche to audit those two entities to complete the audit of the finances of the Archdiocese. [In a letter to Msgr. James, dated June 26, 2014, Archbishop Apuron acknowledged the "corrective action" that had already been undertaken in response to the D & T inquiry, with only one item outstanding - all of which was publicly testified to on August 6 by Misters Art Ilagan and Joe Rivera. So the Archbishop is now calling them liars too.] And Rome told me, “You have to do something, and you have to correct that inequality, if you will, so that you can present an audit report for the finances of the Archdiocese.” [Since when does Archbishop Apuron listen to Rome? Archbishop Balvo, the Vatican's representative to this region from 2005 to 2012, wrote to Archbishop Apuron on two occasions asking Archbishop Apuron to provide the required annual financial statements. None were ever sent.] And we’re working very hard to try to do that, and it will eventually come out in these website. So, continue to pray for that [Again with the prayers after slandering a priest] and they decided to go viral with it, which has caused a lot of embarrassment, especially, you know, the criticisms on my part. [What went viral were the Archbishop's own letters.]

For 28 years as the Archbishop I only sought to do the will of God and to follow whatever commands I receive from Rome. And I’m trying to be obedient. [Really? Is that what he was doing ("trying to be obedient") when he mocked Pope Benedict's 2005 order to conform the neo-communion rite to the liturgical books, a directive he still disregards?] And I really do this out of a good conscience; I don’t do it to be vindictive. I don’t do it really to be mean. [So threats like "resign or face an arduous and painful closure to your assignment" is just normal talk?] But sometimes, you know, when you’re in a position of leadership, and in the Catholic Church the only one that speaks with authority, and full authority, is the Archbishop because I was not even voted in. [No. The Archbishop ONLY speaks with "full authority" to the Catholic faithful in the matter of faith and morals and ONLY when he speaks in union with the Church. When it comes to administrative decrees, the authority of a bishop is not autonomous or autocratic. Archbishop Apuron was reminded of this by Rome when Archbishop Balvo wrote to him in 2012 and told him "the diocesan bishop is not free to do as he pleases."

There’s one parishioner in one parish who asked the pastor, “Can we recall him?” as if he voted me in. It is the Pope who decided to elect me and select me to be the Bishop first in 1984, then an Archbishop in 1986, and it will remain that way until he decides in Rome. And I know that he has been receiving a lot of complaints, you know, especially through the internet and through the blogs and whatnot. [No. The Pope DID NOT "elect" him. Normally a bishop is selected through a local process of identifying candidates, the list of which is sent through the Nuncio and then to Rome to the responsible Vatican congregation. The Pope only gets involved to confirm the selection and is usually the last one to know anything about him. Also, Archbishop Apuron speaks of being made an "Archbishop" as if it was a promotion. It was not. Agana is an Archdiocese so its bishop is automatically an Archbishop. More on this another time.]

And even the Apostolic Delegate who came for a visit here and told the priests and clergy, the deacons, “Don’t listen to the blogs. Don’t go there because many times all they want to do is try to destroy people and cause people a lot of confusion.” [Maybe Archbishop Apuron forgot but we have the recordings of both sessions with Archbishop Krebs with the priests and clergy and he said no such thing. In fact it was Archbishop Apuron who said this. Archbishop Krebs will certainly want to know what words Archbishop Apuron is putting into his mouth.]

So, I just want to say that out so that, you know, it will be clear. Honestly, in my conscience, I sleep every night because I try to do the will of God. This thing has forced me to pray even more. I spend an hour in my chapel praying every morning, and then in the afternoon I try to make the Divine Mercy Hour between 2 and 3, or before that, or shortly after that, because I know that -- and I keep telling the Lord, “This is not my church. It is your church, Lord, but help me because I am troubled.” [What are we to make of a bishop who brags to students of his prayer time?]

But, you know, hopefully these things will go away and in truth -- the truth will come up eventually and you will see the truth. [That's the problem. The truth HAS BEEN COMING OUT. We simply post it here in the Archbishop's own words.] So, please continue to pray and hopefully you’ll not be so troubled but rather try to find peace in your mind. [I don't think the students are troubled at all. Amused perhaps.]

The church is “one”, we’re trying to be one. This kind of a persecution has happened even in the very early days of Christianity. [This is the part that is so tragic. The Archbishop, in trouble because of his own words, is characterizing his troubles to be the same as the Christians who were mauled to death by wild beasts, boiled in oil, torn apart on the rack, roasted on red hot grills, torn with iron hooks, and so on. This is truly tragic.]

Read the Acts of the Apostles, the whole history of the early church has been troubled because the Jews, and then today (___) Jewish God, now the people are coming around saying, “Oh, you have to believe in a Jewish God; you have to believe in the one true God, and in Jesus Christ he became one of us, who came as our savior. Many people still look at  Jesus Christ as Lord their savior. So, please, continue to pray. [I won't even try to figure out that one!]

The Lord be with you. (Final Blessing) [And all this while the students are standing there at the end of Mass waiting for the final blessing.]

It is also significant to point out that since this speech was given at the end of Mass and before the final blessing, there was NO opportunity for the students to have provoked this explanation from the Archbishop or to question it. 

68 comments:

  1. I really want to know what the Archbishop was talking about when he referenced the "Jewish God" right before the final blessing. Don't we worship the God of Abraham and of Moses? Was not our Lord Jewish? Was he speaking pejoratively about the "Jewish God"?

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    1. I don't think he was speaking pejoratively, although that part of the address is very confused. I think he was pointing out that the Jews were blamed for the problems in the early Church (?), but now people realise that we "have to believe in a Jewish God" and that the Jews are not the persecutors? Just a guess though. He's all over the place.

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    2. So are you saying that we are now going to following the religion of Judaism?

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    3. The NCW is a Judeo-Masonic invention.
      http://anticammino.weebly.com/the-talmud.html

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    4. What he really meant to say was, Somebody please remove me because its quite apparent I've lost it...

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  2. Great comments Tim. Can't say the same for the Homily, if that is what this was. The king, definitely, has no clothes! The last paragraph confirms that the Neo priest in Agana took his sermon lessons from the Archbishop. The Archbishops comments can be characterized as confused, delusional? Okay, there is no character to the comments. Read this twice and now I have a headache.

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  3. Check out BishopAccountability.org on Wadeson. You'll see a priest who was "hidden" in plain sight here by AAA who knew about the sexual abuse allegations yet incardinated him, putting our children at risk. Totally irresponsible for a man his position. Saying that he sleeps well (while he continues to be the dividing force in our Catholic community) shows how callous he's become.


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    1. People of Guam are asking why any priest on the bishop's accountability web page was incardinated in such a short record of time into our archdiocese. What is the reason for this?

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    2. Hello? Aren't we already supposed to know why?

      At the FDMS mass this past week, Archie stated that he's only following the commands he gets from Rome and he's only trying to be obedient, so we're blaming the wrong guy here folks!

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    3. If Pope Francis gave the order for Archbishop Apuron to bring Father Wadeson to Guam it would be tragic. This cannot be as Fr. Wadeson blew into Guam way before Pope Framcis. But we do need to ask Pope Francis why Archbishop allowed this. Was he inspired by the Holy Spirit? Archbishop was obviously inspired by something to give the message at FD that he proclaimed as if inspired by God himself.

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  4. Once again Tim, a very good analysis. Bravo Zulu!

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  5. Archbishop please continue to pray! You need more help than I can imagine!

    Your tried to defend your actions in front of my son....at a high school? What about the people that you just maligned? where are they to defend themselves?

    Try doing this in front of all Catholics!

    Use your radio station....or have an open forum, like all decent Bishops in the US would do!



    -Parents of FDMS Student!

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  6. Why just the radio?

    FACE TO FACE!

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  7. So, Apuron did not visit with the students in their respective classrooms, so he could answer questions in a more intimate setting, where he can sit and think, as he further clarifies and explain his answers? or Lie to his teeth in the privacy of the classroom and not in an amplified chapel?

    To make things more simplified, Apuron ingeniously (total sarcasm, so the Neos don't misunderstand) did a "summarized echo" WITHIN the Holy Mass!!!

    Please get this guy out of here! The NEO has obviously liquified any brain had to begin with, out of him.

    On the positive side though, he answered A LOT of the questions that were going to be directed to him anyways, without getting any of the students into trouble.

    What an idiot! He has proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he has lost all his marbles---that he can no longer lead our Catholic Church and that the NEO contributed to all these, with his happy permission!

    Tim, WHAT can we do? Letters, done and sent!
    Do we just wait, until he retires...we are cannot let this extremely sad excuse of a clergyman lead our Church any longer!!! or he will certainly be leading all of us to H3LL!

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  8. According to Diane, the archbishop tried to get an audit since 2005. From Diane's blog:

    THE ARCHBISHOP TRIED TO ASSESS THESE PROBLEMS SINCE 2005, WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CATHEDRAL VEHEMENTLY REFUSED TO SUBJECT ITSELF TO AN AUDIT. IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS THE ARCHBISHOP TRIED OVER AND OVER TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS WITHOUT RESULTS.

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    1. Yah. That's really funny. Especially since he is listed as the PASTOR of the Cathedral. So it should read:

      "AAA tried to assess these problems since 2005 when AAA refused to subject himself to an audit. In subsequent years AAA tried over and over to address these problems with AAA without results."

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    2. @2:10 P.M. Documents were presented, work was being done on it, letters were sent to and from the chancery...and what, NO WORK BEING DONE!

      Positive feedbacks from the Chancery on said financial status, letters from Dominic Kim being positive, and much more and one actually believes that nothing was being DONE!

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    3. Then why did D & T say that it was inauditable in Jan. 2014? If it was inauditable, wouldn't that explain why he couldn't give the financial report to Balvo?

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    4. yet archbishop nominated and elevated Msgr. James in 2006 to a monsignor all the while he was being disobedient in 2005. THE ARCHBISHOP TRIED TO ASSESS THESE PROBLEMS SINCE 2005, WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CATHEDRAL VEHEMENTLY REFUSED TO SUBJECT ITSELF TO AN AUDIT. IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS THE ARCHBISHOP TRIED OVER AND OVER TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS WITHOUT RESULTS.

      So it took apuron 9 yrs. to take action? If apuron tried over and over to address these problem without results, why didn't he take action then or 2 yrs. later? He is the boss. Yet this is the best excuse he can give. It only goes to show that he shouldn't be the Head of our Catholic church, neo or non-neo. We deserve better than him.

      Archbishop, you can fool some of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

      Jesus allows things to happen for a reason, we may not understand His wisdom, we just have to trust in the Lord.

      It's harvest time to separate the weed from the wheat. Let's continue to keep the faith. GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME, GOD IS GOOD.

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    5. It took 9 years cuz according to Diane's blog:

      CHARITY IS BASED ON TRUTH AND JUSTICE.


      OTHERS WENT TO THE PRESS NOT ACCEPTING WHAT WAS AT THAT STAGE A SIMPLE CHANGE OF APPOINTMENT. AFTER THE THING WENT PUBLIC, THE ARCHBISHOP HAD THE DUTY TO INFORM THE PEOPLE OF WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

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    6. Okay, so Balvo left in 2012. That don't answer the question. The question was " If it was inauditable, wouldn't that explain why he couldn't give the financial report to Balvo?" The arch never gave out any financial report since 2005. Was it inauditable since 2005?

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    7. The Archbishop is the pastor of the Cathedral. If he wanted to do something about the finances, he, and he alone was in a position to do something. Also, if Msgr. James was refusing to cooperate as Apuron claims in 2005, why did he honor him with the title Msgr. in 2006?

      The truth is that Apuron only threw out the 2005 year after I published Balvo's letter stating that he had NEVER received a financial report from Apuron. Embarrassed, Apuron blames Benavente and makes up the 2005 date.

      The term "inauditable" as used by Apuron is referring to the inquiry by D & T in the review of the Archdiocese's finances that began in 2012. However, Apuron attempts to make "inauditable" sound like a crime, when in accounting terms, it simply means that there is missing information. D & T made a list of the missing information and the cathedral staff henceforth produced it, and to the stated satisfaction of the Apuron himself.

      When conducting an audit, accounting firms normally do a review of the available information and detail what they need to complete the audit. This is all D & T did. It is standard procedure. Apuron trumped their inquiry into a crime. The only crime committed was Apuron's. He's a very sick person.

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    8. Being made a monsignor has nothing to do with finances. The two are unrelated. D &T may have begun the review in 2012 and found it to be inauditable. That means that the problem existed before 2012.

      Diane says that there's an Internal Review looking into the Cementaries and other things that Benavente was in charge of. Do you know anything about that?

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    9. 18 years to remove another priest in 2010. So we do need to look much closer at the life and administration of the so called archbishop.

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    10. At 12:25:

      It’s comments like yours that make me wish I knew who I was talking to because the conversation would be so much fun. You are backing poor AAA into a corner. Here’s why.

      1. Apuron did not just say that Benavente opposed cooperating on the Cathedral finances since 2005, he said that he “vehemently opposed”. That would have been a grave act of disobedience to his bishop. So for Apuron to make him a monsignor a year later would show that Apuron’s judgement and ability to govern the diocese was greatly impaired since the title of Monsignor is an honorific and normally give to a priest as a reward for exemplary service. So the title and Msgr. James performance are VERY related.

      2. Msgr. James has every right to challenge his removal on the same basis as Fr. Paul: that Apuron ignored the canonical norms for the removal of a pastor. Though he was only given the title of rector he was given the duties of a pastor and acted as a pastor for twenty years. To act as a pastor, he either had to de facto be one or had to have been authorized in every instance to act as one since a rector cannot automatically perform the duties of a pastor. He was not authorized in ever instance yet was expected to perform the duties of a pastor, so his case will be that Apuron expected him to perform as a pastor and so he is one. However, Apuron, in order to protect his reckless act, will argue that he is the pastor of the Cathedral. If that is so then Apuron will be seen as grossly negligent and irresponsible for allowing the Cathedral finances to get as bad as he says they are.

      3. The truth is of course that Apuron lied AGAIN.

      4. The IRS would have no reason to be involved in church finances. Churches are exempt. They do not pay taxes and have no duties to the IRS other than to stay within the bounds of church related activities. Given that we know Diana is Fr. Edivaldo, Holly Leon Guerrero, et. al., I would have to assume that because you give them any credence that you are just as mentally impaired as they are. Thus I did not answer all this for you. I answered if for others to see.

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    11. Okay let's turn the table around. Here you have the RMS listed as a non profit organization under the umbrella of the Archdiocese of Agana.

      Money is collected during the Saturday evening celebration. They claim to turn it in to the parish which is hog warsh. The money collected goes in and out as they say for their hotel extravaganza. Okay, is money collected posted? Do you keep records of who donated? Are there any records and receipts of what was paid for expenses?

      Where is all the money deposited from the different communities? Is there one set account? Do each community have their own account? I sure would like to know the answers to these questions.

      It seems that the NCW IS trying every which way to nail Msgr. Benavente. Maybe we too have the right to know the accounting of the RMS and the NCW books.

      I think they better open up Msgr. Zoilo Camacho's grave (no insult intended) and ask him if he kept records for the cemetery. Get all your facts straight Ms. Terlaje and do not assume anything. Assuming without hard facts can cause a lot of trouble and GFD won't be able to put the fire out. It seems to me that you are running the whole show for the Archdiocese. You may as well ask the Archbishop to step down and you can wear his miter!

      BTW Ms Terlaje, are you assigning Harold and OJ to the position at the Cathedral while poi boy goes off to school? Good luck...more moves from the Cathedral. Less cash coming in! Power to needs to be paid! People need to be paid! SS contributions need to be paid! Insurance needs to be paid! Water needs to be paid! No money......don't know how you will keep up with the maintenance of the church.

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  9. Tim I am not person who thinks about suing or getting back at people. But I have to agree with you. I thought the same thing about the so called "can't be trusted" man suing the Apuron. This ongoing badgering, harassment, blame for priest being fired, can't be trusted near children, not be involved in the church etc. is extreme and totally unwarranted. I can't even begin to imagine the high level of stress it must be causing the man and is family. God help us if his children are going to school and what might be happening to them. I remember a Jewish friend telling me how Catholics kids would blame (being Jewish) her for killing Jesus, when she was a child and how painful and confusing that was to experience. Children get bits of information and don't fully comprehend what is happening. Although I do not know the family I am truly concerned about them. I do hope they have strong loving support. If the man was doing maintenance work he may have little money and not understand he has rights. Some honorable person needs to advise him and guide him about this. It is absolutely horrific to think any spiritual leader would chose to use on going public shame and blame towards lay people let alone towards priests. 1. To do it to impressionable inquiring minds of children/teens is really unfathomable. 2. It leaves me speechless that a high ranking spiritual leader in the Catholic church would discuss it at a school. 3. Seems totally unthinkable to talk about dirty laundry during a mass. Please Please Please. Whoever knows the family lay man Apuron wont lay off. Please go to him, reassure him, embrace him, give him support and guidance how to move forward like a good loving Catholic would and should. FD kids need the same. They sure got a whole less than what is expected from a Catholic Church leader yesterday and they deserve so much more.

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    1. I, too, am a parent of a student at FD ... from what I heard, the students were not allowed to ask questions. There WAS NO discussion ...

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    2. The Archbishop should be thankful that the man and family he continue to malign are decent people. If not, I am sure, they would have sued. No, I don't think they want to go deep down to his level. Yet, you are right, we have to assure them of our love and concern.

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    3. Yes, this man and his family can show Archbishop Apuron what true humility is.

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  10. How can he can sleep at night after destroying the reputation of two priests?

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    1. 3.11pm. He has no conscience or awareness of his own wrong doing. For someone who informed the FD student body, that he prays for an hour or two every day, is hard to believe. If it were true he prays that much the spiritual signs would be seen and felt by those around him. Notice in his presence there is no calmness or peace . One only feels tension, anxiety, a complete lack of peace surrounds him. When there is no peace God is not present.

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    2. Your Excellency, in this daily hour of prayer you seem to say you pray, have you ever considered reaching out to those you so badly hurt in the past 28 years even before the arrival of the sect. In 28 years there has been no sign of humility from you, no sign of reaching out to those you hurt so badly. I for one, want to believe, that you pray, but the actions of the life you live, do not correspond to what you claim. Please try and understand this. I have been trying to talk to you for many years and you always refused. Infact you just made me suffer more. So it is kind of hard for myself, and many others, to take you seriously.

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    3. Archbishop Apuron has shown reckless and callous leadership of our church. Shame on Him.

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  11. I'm a little curious about the students who aren't catholic and their conversations with their parents on the matter.

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    1. 3:21PM I am not curious. I am extremely concerned how non Catholic parents may influence their children in a negative way over all these shenanigans. Why wouldn't they? Given how the on going drama on multiple levels demonstrates the Catholic church on Guam being very unstable. The leadership shows reckless behavior. 1. Far from demonstrating a deep spiritual attainment. 2. Speech and actions demonstrate undesirable behavior for a leader by all standards. 3. The irresponsible powerless leader who publicly blames others for himself not achieving his desired goals.

      I am sorry to say this but I have no doubts how some non Catholics would not want to bother to be involved with Catholics who have someone like Apuron guiding them and praying for them.

      More so, it would seem any decent non Catholic parent who is genuinely concerned about their children could be extremely cautious about letting their children be with Catholic children who are influenced by such a perverse leader.

      It is actually frightening to think what repercussions could happen from all this bizarre behavior by the Catholic church leader, on this small Island community both in and out of the Catholic church and with Catholic children attending public schools.

      Deep reflection and prayer on all this is critically needed. What positive steps can be taken for adults, children and this community in these very dark times.

      I am not an FD graduate however, I have to say bloggers identifying themselves as FD graduates by year felt like a show of REAL CATHOLIC strength and support to me. It showed Catholic UNITY and that is what is so needed now. Because Apuron has ignited a fire of disunity that is burning of out of control. Perhaps graduates from other schools may also like to join FD's lead to show the Catholic unity of day in and day out prayers and catholic instruction at school for many years.

      Please Note: This thought was not intended to exclude anyone or cause more division. If someone should feel excluded maybe all school graduates could identify their school and year as a way of standing in unison together. I would like to add it is not a school that makes one more spiritual. Ones individual faith and practice makes that difference.

      All Catholics with a passion of fire in their belly for what is right within the Roman Catholic church on Guam are what is called for now.

      Skilled use of faith, prayer and honorable values, are the energy required to create the unity that is so needed to distinguish Aproun's fire of disunity and negativity.

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    2. I agree with you. In my mind, concern was a given. I chose "curiosity," because this has been brewing for some time, and I am sure the topic has graced its presence during many a debate/reflection time in the Theology classrooms (and that is a very sad thought).
      The scary part is that if the archbishop's monologue was presented in an Elementary Catholic School, think just how scarred those children will be if they heard half of what he said. More than that, imagine just how many parents will be calling the schools DEMANDING to know WHY a child would ask, "What's a sex offender?" and WHY the Leader of Guam's Catholic Church felt the need to mention it.
      This is not just about FD, or any of the high schools anymore. My fear is that the Archbishop's monologue might reach the younger children--remember that the innocence of a child knows no denomination, and they are very impressionable.
      And yes, I agree with you, we ALL need to stand together--We may be large in number, but now that we are seeing what is under the Mitre, we need to support each other: Until something gets done, We are all we've got

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  12. I have spent considerable time helping and talking with homeless people, here on Guam and in the Bay Area. Archbishop Anthony has many of the same speech characteristics. He has a hard time completing thoughts, he jumps around from one subject to another, and there is no real link to these matters. This seems to be an increasing problem of his lately. I don't recall seeing this hyper-staccato type speech before, so it appears to be a new issue for him. Again very similar to talking to certain homeless people who have psychological or mental challenges.
    What I don't know if this altered and broken speech pattern is because of the tremendous stress he has been under for the past 12 months, or if it is a symptom of other problems. But I definitely think the Archbishop needs to be evaluated by a professional, which I am not.
    I doubt that he is a danger as some one had proposed, at least in a physical or abuse sense. However, his irrational pattern of behavior has had a very damaging effect on his priests that he has targeted. We should expect a continuation of erratic behavior unless treatment is provided and causes are found. Something is definitely wrong...and his speech shows it.

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    1. 3.27pm correct observation. The speech identifies issues much deeper than the surface of the speech. It shows a mind that is exhausted.

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  13. He did the same thing at Notre Dame -- at the end of mass, BEFORE he gave the final blessing!

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    1. Anonymous (August 29, 2014 at 3:41 PM), it's too bad nobody was able to record his statement at NDHS so that it could be compared to the FDMS version. If this is going to be repeated at all the Catholic high schools — hopefully NOT at the Catholic elementary/middle schools! — it might help to record them so that they can be "compared and contrasted."

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  14. A real Archbishop would have challenged these students to pray for the Christians in Iraq who are truly being "persecuted" in the true and real sense of the word, instead of using the Holy Mass as his pulpit for his own agenda.

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  15. I sure wish we had a real Archbishop. Help us Rome.
    FD '67
    Fortes in Fide!

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  16. Fortes in Fide!

    FD '74

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  17. If the AAA is removed or goes on a "break", will David or Adrienne be in charge? Will the Vatican appoint someone else? Who is in charge when AAA goes off island ?

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    1. Msgr. David. C. Quitugua

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    2. WE will still be in the see situation....we need to evaluate all that would benefit from AAA removal. Looks like David and Adrienne would still be in charge....

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  18. You don't have the recordings of Krebs saying it was a hate blog & to stay away from it. Krebs said it during lunch, not during the clergy meeting.

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    1. And you know this because...you were there?

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    2. I guess what the neos need is a another letter like that from Cardinal Tagle. They kept insisting his invitation was true but when Cardinal Tagle set the record straight, they hung their heads low with their tails in their you know where.

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    3. We are very happy that the Pope loves us and defends us. KIKO

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  19. My child attends a Catholic school, but the Archbishop has not celebrated mass there yet. I am SERIOUSLY considering not sending him to school that day until AFTER the mass is over so that he is not subjected to same PROPAGANDA as what the FD students endured. Unlike adults who have the option of walking out, these students do not have the same freedom.

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    1. I know of parents that did just that today. Apuron visited Sta. Barbara and they didn't bring their child in until after the visit.

      He lies with no bounds and continue to act disgustingly. Would not let kids watch R rated movies, why subject them to R rated "echoes" during Mass!

      They didn't pay the full tuition to expose their child to such a disgusting man who hid a twice accused priest for his cult, the Neos!

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    2. RT u might as well not be catholic because of your ignorance

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    3. Anon @ 11:38pm: Nope. Being aware of the harm that could have been brought to their child, this was a very smart decision. RT is still very much Catholic and far from remaining ignorant.

      Thank God you're still Catholic regardless of yours.

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  20. Father Pius is running the show that's why AAA is so troubled as he says. I really don't think he has any say anymore. He appears to have been brainwashed with something???

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  21. One more post like this and we should reach a million hits.

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  22. 6.55am. Correct. Encourage you to ask further questions on this line.

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  23. You are so right!

    If in 2005, Apuron was having issues on finances and disobedience with then Fr. James Benavente, why then, did he elevate and honor him to MONSIGNOR in 2006?

    It is because, there was NO SUCH PROBLEM THEN, AND NO SUCH PROBLEM NOW (as evidenced by the Reputable Finance Professionals that debunked the charges against Msgr. James). Apuron is LYING AGAIN!

    Apuron, Quitugua, Cristobal, Pius and the Leadership of the Neos think we, the sheep, are naive and senseless, therefore, we are unable to connect the dots...la, la, la.

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  24. So where is the letter to substantiate this comment made by the Archbishop.

    And Rome told me, “You have to do something, and you have to correct that inequality, if you will, so that you can present an audit report for the finances of the Archdiocese.”

    I need to see letters now when the Archbishop speaks about Rome saying this and that. Archbishop are you using The Vatican's name in vain? Whip out the letter, the memo, the fax, etc. BLACK and WHITE EVIDENCE IS WHAT I NEED TO SEE. Komprendo? Kumprendi?

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  25. TODAY is at i tSan Vicente School and Tomorrow I believe it is at Bishop Baumgartner that the Archbishop will make his visit. Parents you have every right to attend the mass. Please listen to his homily if you do.

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    1. Record it, record it, record it.

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    2. I agree with Anonymous (September 8, 2014 at 9:42 and 9:58 AM) — parents should attend the Mass when AAA makes his school visit as well as record what he says.

      From what was reported here and from what I have learned, AAA doesn't address "his issues" during the homily but after the Post-Communion Prayer, before the Final Blessing and Ite Missa Est. However, he might change tactics and "confess" during his homily, so it makes sense to record, record, record!

      I don't know if he did the same thing at SACS when he made his annual visit; my Early Elementary age grandchildren did not say anything other than "There was a really long Mass because the Archbishop visited." If he said anything to the SACS Middle Schoolers similar to what was reported at SBCS, I'm thankful my grandchildren were spared!

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    3. Yep, we will record it. As the name of this blog implies, we are Jungle Watchers on patrol for the evil prowlers against Mother Church!!

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    4. Pretty soon they will be confiscating phones at the door IN A TRASH BAG .

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    5. Someone told me recently that they've installed cameras at the chancery. I'm guessing it's to try to find out who the moles are who are informing us of the truth.

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    6. High powered night camera pointed at Equus Tires!

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