Friday, September 26, 2014

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CONCERNED CATHOLICS OF GUAM


Congratulations to the people behind the CONCERNED CATHOLICS OF GUAM July 2, 2014 notice in the Guam Pacific Daily News calling on Archbishop Apuron to be transparent with church finances. Today, the Archdiocese of Agana published on its website: Disclosure of Financial Statements of the Archdiocese of Agana. 

We know this Disclosure NEVER would have happened had Archbishop Apuron not been called out publicly on this matter. We know it never would have happened because of the very public resistance to the request. Instead of simply responding "we're working on it", or "we plan to publish the report soon", the Archdiocese publicly mocked the request from the CONCERNED CATHOLICS by challenging the group to meet:

"The Archdiocese of Agana invites the group known as 'Concerned Catholics of Guam' to meet with the archbishop and the Archdiocesan Finance Council regarding its recent request," the archdiocese stated yesterday. (Dumat-ol Daleno, G. (2014, July 4). Archbishop want to meet with Concerned Catholics. Pacific Daily News - Hagatna, Guam.)
This is also why we find the following statement from the Archdiocese, included in today's posting, particularly funny:
"It is the expressed position of the Archdiocese to be transparent in its financial management to the faithful in the AOA."
If the real position of the Archdiocese was "to be transparent in its financial management to the faithful", there, first, would have been no need for the group to call on the Archbishop to be transparent, and second, there would have been no need to challenge the group to a meeting.

The PDN further reported in the same story:
The group can call the archbishop's executive secretary at 562-0076 to arrange a meeting...(and) "The archdiocese has no further comment at this time." 
Yep. Sure sounds like a commitment "to be transparent", doesn't it. But as long as they're committed to financial transparency, how about some transparency on the status of the title to the property occupied by RMS? Shall we expect that to be forthcoming?

54 comments:


  1. Unfortunately very hard to hold any trust in Tony Apuron when it comes to money.

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  2. Its si bad your part of the Payroll. What a shame your partnof it. Hahaha. My money on your pocket Tim.

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    1. So, how far along are you in your seminary studies? Can't wait to hear your homilies. Or are we already hearing them?

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    2. What else do you have ON YOUR POCKET, Tim?

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    3. Yes obviously some seminarian who is also left seriously wanting.

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    4. To Anon. 6:08 PM: Don't you think Tim's employment and how much he was paid is the least of your worries? If the Archdiocese publishes any details on expenses, it should be about how and what it was used for. Payroll is payroll unless something unusual glares out from a Audit. So if you are not an accountant or auditor, I would not look at payroll expenses but look at the OTHER expenses that do not make sense.

      And PLEASE try to purchase a legitimate copy of Rosetta Stone for ENGLISH. I believe this will help you with your speech, homilies, and just putting simple sentences together. It would be a great investment and I don't think this expense would be contested in an Audit. If anything, get a license copy for 20 or 30 computers so you can share it with your brother NeoCats to help you before you leave the seminary. And if you are not part of the seminary, it would still be a good idea to get yourself some help. Be it Rosetta Stone English or even a ESL class (ESL = English As A Second Language). Good luck.

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    5. Wonder what else Tim got besides a paycheck. Can't wait to see the Catholic cemeteries report.

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    6. Yes. And I can't wait for you to step in it. And knowing how stupid you are, you WILL step in it. Already have my attorneys lined up. Can't wait to sue you.

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    7. BTW. WATCHING YOU:

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    8. @6:24 am so what did Tim get from Catholic Cemeteries? His very own plot? for free?

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  3. Article: Francis Removes Bishop Under Cloud in Paraguay - Francis Removes Bishop Under Cloud in Paraguay

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/world/americas/francis-removes-bishop-livieres-under-cloud-in-paraguay.html?assetType=nyt_now&gwt=pay

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  4. Not sure how AAA can accuse Monsignor of mismanagement of funds, when the Archdiocese in FY 2013 has excess funds of $400,000? What church has that much cash and claims mismanagement? Why are the churches having to give the AAA and RMS a percentage of their collection? Most churches can hardly pay their bills, but AAA wants more, more, more. These statements prove AAA is the one mismanaging funds. He steals from the poor parishes to give to his favorites.

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    1. Tony uses archdiocesan money like his own personal bank. giving money of the people to support his cult and God only knows what else and who else he supports with church funds.

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    2. Anon 7:15PM you think 400K excess? Wait til you see the real report including Tim Rohr's check. What hypocrite. You milknthe Church with my money. It does not matter to me, I don't big stink about it.

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    3. No 10:20, you just stink, period. LOL.

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    4. BTW. I'm taking personal note of your comment. And if anything about my persinal employment is made public, I will sue AAA in a very painful way.

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    5. All employees paycheck are public. Even the Guam Legislature shows how much they pay their employee. AAA can publish the pay for all its employees. But did you get any other benefits besides a paycheck?

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    6. That's a pretty ignorant statement. The Guam Legislature is a public agency. The church is not. AAA is welcome to publish my salary. But if he only publishes mine I can sue him. Of course, we can't wait to see his, but we don't expect it to include all the envelopes of "cashee", now would we? On your second question, that's what I can't wait for you to step in. So go for it.

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    7. Come on, Tim. Let's have some transparency here. Let AAA publish all employees paychecks including yours. Let's all see how much you've been milking the church.

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    8. Will sue the Archbishop Tim if he publicly reveal your pay. You are a false Catholic and no mere close to a Christian. You are false and authentic viper.

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    9. Get back to class. AAA is in a hurry for more presbyters. Maybe you'll pass this time.

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    10. Yes, let's see. Yes. Let's publish ALL employees paychecks. He won't because he will have to publish his. And milking? LOL. When and if you see it you will wonder how I was even to buy milk with it. What a laugh. Don't you have anything better to do than hang out on my blog? This is what I find so much fun. All you people who hate me can't stay away. You itch and scratch where there is nothing to itch or scratch. So amusing. And living rent free in your head while your soul rots with hatred.

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    11. Why is this even an issue? So what if Tim earned a salary from the Church? Everyone is entitled to compensation for services rendered. The issue here is how much of the expense is directly attributable to the support of the neo because those expenses violate the trust of those contributors who were never asked to contribute to this "project" and were never informed that their contributions would be used to support a secret society whose beliefs are protestant.

      The people aren't blind. It's very obvious that the leadership of this archdioces live well. It's a shame that they feel it's deserved but nonetheless we at least know that our contributions are used for this purpose.

      The $85k in RMS subsidies are misleading. There's no way it could stay open with that level of funding. I want see all income and expense fromm the 2013 financials directly attributable to the NCW.

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    12. Like the way they use the word VIPER. Btw that's a cool car.

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  5. Gotta have proof of mending bridges...only a few more months before the Nuncio arrives. Slick trick. Now let us see if the RMS is really part of the Archdiocese or a monkey of a corporation hanging and scratching AAAs back. File your corporation assists at Rev and Tax and publish it in the newspaper as required by law for ALL non profit organizations... You are not exempted from this because you FILED AS A NON PROFIT CORPORATIONS. Even the non profit ORGANIZATIONS need to file. better do this fast or you may lose your non profit status.Ai Adai!

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  6. Hmmmm..... Can we trust the chancery to be honest with the books?
    If the utilities are only 8% of expenses why are churches allowed to charge such exorbitant amounts for use of the church?
    Over $600,000.00 in misc. expense?!?? Really misc.? I thought we owned all our properties, what are we paying rent for?
    S240,000.00 for travel? what, is everyone flying first class? smh...

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  7. Studying the accounts I believe they are fake cover ups.

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  8. I believe Tony is once again fooling the people on these accounts They make little sense . What exactly is the $600,000,00 misc expense. Seriously I would not accept a word of this as true.

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  9. how do you spend 240,000 for travel. Tony stop fooling the church on Guam. We want to see purchase orders of each and every air ticket now. Every expense we want papers with it to do a truth test on you. unfortunately, Tony we do not believe anything you say. Show us the diocesan pay chart this will be a start. How much Diocesan money do you take for salary and upkeep of your own home in extension of San Ramon.

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    1. 40 Seminarians @5,000.00 for far away places called home = 200Gs...the rest for Brother Ton in Business...easy 240,000.00 OH, wait, thought the seminary expenses are independent. Silly me.

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  10. Half a million in investment income? Means they have about $20 million earning interest and dividends. Add back depreciation and they actually made close to $2 million. Cut back travel and stipends and they would have made more money.

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  11. Tim, speaking to a Neo is like talking to an addict. We need a 12 step process here. As to Anon Sep 26 6:08, it's in the pocket not on the pocket!!! Goodness you sound like that Neo priest in the Cathedral with his rambling homily. Help each other out. Stop reading the blog and learn some grammer before you type again. Remember, in the pocket.

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    1. had a construction worker who could balance on any 4" ledge happy as could be. I asked him how he learned such good English with no education. He told me by watching cartoons. Well, we have cartoons here now. The next batch should be better in language skills if they watch the days as they go by in the Church of Agana. Yabba Dabba Dooooo!

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  12. Forgive my suspicious nature, but are any of you reading the D&T "Review Report" and capturing its meaning and the limitations on what the report can cover? 92% of the assets were not reviewed, the actual "audit" was performed by other auditors. There seems to be no consolidation of the entire body as the cemeteries, CSC, and the seminary are not included. Which tells me this is as close to useless as can possibly be posted to soothe us savages. I think there are more questions than answers here and I can't wait until we hear from the Concerned Catholics review!

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  13. Went to the bookstore Ave Maria. They have too many inventory. Same books on shelf from last time I came to visit Guam. Why don't they have an inventory sale and scale back. Who is the bookstore manager or was?

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    1. See today's post. There will soon be no more bookstore.

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    2. No more bookstore? Guess it needs the space to accommodate Saturday services for a NCW community. BTW what is the scoop on the Korean Church? Where is M.S.?

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    3. It is very unfortunate that the bookstore will be closing. It was part of the plan with the museum tour. The renovation of the store and the sell of old inventory were planned. The new design and fixtures were ready for installation. It was suppose to start at the beginning of August. This was another project of Monsignor James to support the Cathedral.

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    4. Kimchee is Baaaack. And not happy about the access road. Fielding a lot of calls. Tough girl.

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    5. What is problem with access road to the Korean church and the Archibishop? He can give away a multimillion dollar seminary to the NCW stockholders but can't help the Korean church with the access road!!!!! Better watch out AAA! Kimchee soon will be deducting your salary! As for Harold being assigned to Barrigada, they need him to help make preparations for Crystal No Balls 25th anniversary.

      BTW full blown congratulatory back page in Umatuna? Question is....Is Crystal no Ball responsible for these men and women's vocation? Is he responsible for ALL the 8 community in Barrigada? All a show, give credit where credit is due. Vocation calling is from GOD and not from Crystal No Balls!!!!!

      Just another ploy to sell the fruits for the NCW.

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    6. Have some respect for the vocation director, my goodness.

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    7. Why? He hangs out here and posts taunts which he thinks are anonymous.

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    8. @7:04pm why should there be any respect for Crystal No Balls? He can't even do his job! He gives his authority to the Gennarinis to do the interviewing of the Deacons. He has no say in their priestly ordination. Crystal no Balls is just another puppet with a fake title.

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    9. So when is it crystal no balls 25.

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  14. The document Apuron released doe not answer our questions, it is not authentic nor realistic. it is a futile attempt to publish a document to shut up people. unfortunately, it makes us further look at the corruption o Apuron. Wake up Guam Apiron is fooling you again.

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  15. Apuron has lost all credibility. His word means nothing!

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  16. Power to the NON-NEOSeptember 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    Authentic Catholics know that these PDN-reported financial statements are just "shut the f**k up, cooked up reports" to pretend to address our call to transparency!

    Are we going to swallow this recipe for deceit and disaster? Show us the real deal, the report that shows the truth, our money going straight to the NEOCANCERS and Apuron!

    Talk about mismanagement, the Cathedral is now being heavily, monetarily supported by the chancery because Quitugua CANNOT make ends meet! !! What? Msgr. James was ousted, yet Benavente ALWAYS paid the bills on time, for 20+ years. ..without any hand outs from the Rich and Mighty Chancery because the Chancery always refused to help!

    MISMANAGEMENT---Financial, Office, and Pastoral Mismanagement, evident under This NewNeo Administration.

    No matter how you spin it,
    we see right through it. Ya'll think we're that stupid? ??

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    1. Cooked books. But not very well cooked. Love the pie charts. What a joke.

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    2. Correct Apuron is cooking the books to fool the People in Guam. Do not be fooled again by him.

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  17. Me thinks the IRS should step in. Diocese may lose nonprofit status...

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    1. archdiocese should be taxed for as long as archbishop heads the archdiocese.

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  18. Does Wadeson, Pius, and the other honcos of the NonCatholic walkes get salaries and wages, employees benifit, Honorarium & stipend, plus part of the "Others"/ just asking

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  19. That's why all those MISCELLANEOUS items must be spelled out and revealed. Just have them show the wages for Wadeson and all others that are not even physically on our island, and it will show the financial mismanagement that the Archdiocese undertakes with the powerful signature of Apuron!

    Show us the truth!!! There should be another ad out that demands that the "REAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS" be shown, none of this show-and-tell, dog and pony baloney stuff!!!

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  20. Mr. Jesus Cepeda, they all get substantial salaries between 40 to 60 thousand Usd. This does not include the envelopes of cash and Mass stipends

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