Diana, Diana, Diana, you have made a grave error pontificating (as you are want to do), on this subject. You are bagged! Hope this one finds its way to New Zealand. This is one of your gems! When in Rome do as the Romans do! Ridiculous
LOL.... THIS IS WHY I LOVE BEING A CATHOLIC...... MY LOVE TO GOD I WILLING AND UNCONDITIONAL.... WITH NCW YOU ARE TOLD TO LOVE GOD, WHICH MEANS YOU DON'T LOVE HIM WILLINGLY.... YOU NEOS CAN EAT YOUR BREAD AS IF YOU WERE HAVING DINER AT A FRIENDS HOUSE......BUT DON'T TELL PEOPLE THAT IN ORDER TO ATTEND YOU RITUALS YOU HAVE TO LIKE IT....... I MEAN HOW STUPID?.... AND JUST HOW SICK ARE YOU PEOPLE?????? GET SOME DAMN HELP FOR CRYING OUT LOUD...... THIS IS NOT THE MID-EVIL TIMES....... SOUND LIKE A BUNCH OF KIDS THAT DIDN'E GET A SECOND SCOOP OF ICE CREAM...........PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELVES........... OR SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO IT FOR YOU AND BILIEVE ME IT'S NOT GONNA FEEL ANY BETTER.......
Diana, you are "in" Guam! Do as the Guamanians do! Your meetings are a liturgical abuse!! Obviously not Catholic! What other heresy's do you profess?
"It cannot be accommodated because it would be a grave liturgical abuse in that the priest did not [first] receive communion. Yet, the NCW receives Holy communion together with the priest."Fixed it for you.
SHo Yo Right!First of all, "Rome" did not approve "your" liturgy so stop lying. If the CDW did, show us the document.Secondly, what really happened when Pope Benedict approved your statutes in 2008, he "only approved those articles not already governed by the liturgical books." So what is already governed by a liturgical book? THE MASS!!! and nowhere does it state that the lay people shall consume with the priest, or consume while seated, or that lay people can make the homily, or that lay people dance around the ALTAR of SACRIFICE! on the Sanctuary. If of course you have any Document that contradicts what has just been stated, feel free to share, and I will dissappear.
Finally there's proof that the NCW is not Catholic! And it came out of the mouth of one their own. Thank you.
5:36PM Really how? Shows your delusional.
Here we go again. Another narrowminded kikobot trying to protect their ways.
Love the "OUR LITURGY" statement. Whose liturgy is it? Kiko's liturgy. Sometimes I wonder if Kiko presents the entire picture to Rome?
Watching and learning about Vatican II via Youtube. Came across this and opened my eyes to the truth...Gaudium Et Speshttp://youtu.be/TQGU5xTZuq0?t=24m31s
I'm not sure what you saw. I find it rather offensive that the perception is put forth that the church never cared about the poor until Vatican II or until Pope Francis. Sadly, the truth is that since Vatican II the church's answer to the problem of the poor has been less church and more government, a situation which has morally compromised the Church and created even more poor.
Wow. I'm utterly speechless but unfortunately not shocked. Sad to think that NCW members really think this way.
Diana, take your teachings and stay FAR away from my grandchildren..We'll survive just fine with the Traditional Church.
Dear Jungle Watch,Please just stick to publishing the truth; do not publish comments that are uncharitable. I, too, believe that the NCW Mass is illicit, but "correction" must be done without "breaking the bent reed." Some of these comments, (and some from the NCW on Insider's View, also) stink of PRIDE. We are both at fault in this regard.Please note: The NCW IS Catholic. Who of us is without sin? Does Jesus have to come and write for us in the sand??
Dear Anonymous. True "who of us is without sin?" But it appears you have already cast the first stone. Sincerely,JungleWatch
How can you say the NCW is Catholic.....I'd this were so, why did AAA remove father Paul as Pastor of Santa Barbara.....The true Catholic church recognizes absolution given to its members after confession. We have a written letter from Ray and Josephine Hernandez showing that they sponsored the Lastimozas on before they were married in the Catholic Church. Yet AAA continued to condemn this family and Father Paul.... This purely is not Catholiic. And the continued lies about Monsignor James and the AFC for not allowing AAA to follow thru with covering up his tracks with the $40M transfer of the seminary to KIKO. You call these actions Catholic.... This cult needs to leave our Island....
I am ANON 4:37; I apologize for the grammar mistakes, I was using my cell phone. A good friend of mine passed away a few days ago, we both served AAA in the Agana Cathedral Basilica, taught CCD, sang in numerous church choirs and taught at both San Vicente and Saint Anthony's School. It truly hurts to bear witness to what has become of the leaders we trusted and served. To turn the Catholic Church into a cult led by Kiko and Carmen that don't even live in Rome. To ask brother priests to keep quiet while being publicly humiliated all for the sake of satisfying KIKO's desire of ensuring all of the parishes will one day be infested with this cult known as the New Eucharistic Order. Yes I don't believe this is a Catholic Organization, otherwise it would follow the traditions and teachings entrusted by Jesus Christ to Saint Peter and his successors. Prayers from a distance for reconciliation and unity. This cannot happen unless AAA faces up to his lies and deception and removes the RMS seminary from the island. The regional seminary of Saint Peter Channel has the accreditation, curriculum and certified professors. Our local seminarians deserve the best formative curriculum if our island Catholic churches are to survive as being true to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
A.T. is this you again?
It boggles my mind that the arch is aware of this abuse of the liturgy, permits it, and participates in it. Eileen Benavente-Blas
smh. abuse of an abuse?well, if there's a bright side to diana's comment, it shows that diana is at least aware that there's such a thing as liturgical abuse. too bad neocats haven't given an honest examination about their own practices and see the abuse within their group.the words "our liturgy" is revealing, separatist, and a bit insulting. as if diana equates the neocat practice with the roman, byzantine, maronite, and all the other legitimate liturgical forms of the Catholic Church.
Dingbat Diana's claim of liturgical abuse if one consumes the bread before the presbyter and others in a Neo celebration is hilarious. By her statement we can conclude that the Neo liturgy is different and in direct disobedience to Liturgy of the Euchrist as specified by the GIRM. Any non-compliance to the GIRM is not authentic Catholicism therefore the NCW is NOT Catholic! 'Nuff said!
"Forgive us our trespasses, AS we forgive those......"And parallel to that:If we expect the NCW to accept correction/admonition from us in regards to their sins , should we not be thankful and acceptive to be admonished for our sins?