Wednesday, August 19, 2015

THE AGAT BOY(S)

John Toves called Patti Arroyo this morning, repeated his allegations against Apuron, and invited Apuron to sue him. 

John Toves with Patti Arroyo


But there is bigger news here. During Patti's follow up call to me, a "Mae" phones in and relates first hand knowledge of what most people know as the "Agat boy(s)."

Tim Rohr with Patti Arroyo


31 comments:

  1. Hey Tim you sound gay ???????

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    1. What was that comment supposed to accomplish? Tim has 11 children.

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    2. LOL, Ebet. That's all they have. LOL.

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    3. I guess the TRUTH is finally or hopefully coming out soon and the ANONYMOUS 1:46PM comment have nothing to say and the it looks like the TRUTH is starting to hurt.

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  2. wow i heard all that live today. and i was expecting to listen to just a normal post-typhoon midweek talk radio day.

    so much filth. purification and healing begins with the truth. i wonder if any of the victims will take it to SNAP.

    if this ever goes to court like it did in the dioceses in the mainland, prepare for the possibility of the guam Church becoming materially poor. but hopefully it will begin to get spiritually richer.

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    1. Yah. Wasn't expecting that myself.

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  3. I just finished listening to the replay of the Patti Arroyo show, Tim, where, in a few words, you described Adrian Cristobal as blackmailing Apuron from as far back as Adrian's ordination. Shouldn't Adrian also be threatening to sue you, Tim?

    And if he does, will that have the same effect that John Toves is trying to achieve? If he doesn't threaten to sue you, I would take that non-action on Adrian's part as an admission of Adrian's guilt.

    And what about "Mae" and her "bombshell"? I hope we hear more from her and others like her. Wow! We sure do live in interesting times.

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    1. I suppose you could threaten to sue anyone. However, I wasn't making that allegation about Adrian. I was reporting what others have been saying on my blog as can be seen. It certainly would make sense though if was blackmailing Apuron. Why else would Apuron be submissive to Adrian - as we have seen.

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    2. What If Giuseppe and or Pius know of same dirt against AAA, would that explain why AAA seems submisive to these shady characters? What do they have over the Arch that makes it appear that Arch is giving in to all that master Pius and Giuseppe dictate? Could Adrian be in cahoots with them, and is this the reason Adrian got promoted to Chancellor ?

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    3. I was glad to hear Patti Arroyo politely but firmly challenging John Toves on "outing" his cousin without his cousin's permission. On this blog we denounce individuals and groups who behave as if the "ends justify the means" and who throw people, parishes and institutions "under the bus." I'm glad John Toves wants to save and heal the Catholic Church on Guam but am horrified that he wants to sacrifice the privacy and psychological well-being of his cousin to do so.

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  4. Mae revealing what she actually learned from another victim is true, how do I know this......THERE ARE MORE THAN JUST THE ONE from Agat. In fact had the late Fr. Jack Niland still been around my brother would be one of them victims coming out as well. ( there are still other priest that are involved) Those overnight stays and altar boys retreat at Tai were for their advantage. Talk about opening a can of worms. Things would have been easier if Apuron had stopped before things got out of hand. There's no turning back now.God help us.


    Taotao Hagat

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    1. To clarify, there is no accusation against Fr. Jack. The reference to his name appears to be related to the fact that the alleged victims may have confided in Fr. Jack at the time since he was Apuron's assistant when he was in Agat.

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  5. Diana hath proclaimed : "In September, the Pope will be visiting the United States. In October, there will be more good news for the NCW. :-)

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    1. Yes anon at 6.20, they are expecting good news. The Archbishop of Boston (another Franciscan) has allowed them to expand the RMS seminary in Boston, also they are hard at work in New Jersey of course and Pennsylvania.
      The money they are stealing from here under many different schemes is purchasing alliances with powerful Bishops on the East Coast. This is what they have been doing since the 70s, starting in Italy and continuing all over the world.
      This is a huge money machine.

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    2. October Surprise! Maybe Malta Carmelite Monastery from New Jersey?? Something big for NCW ....thus spake Diana. the true prophet.

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  6. Oh, let's guess. More good news for NCW :-). Hmmm. C'mon, Diana, give us a hint. BTW, Diana, how do you know the big secrets? I'm impressed. Wait! Cardinal Dolan gives Saint Patrick's Cathedral NYC to the NCW for a biggie neochatechumenary...and didn't tell the finance council. Whoops.

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  7. Testimony of Ms Mae of Guam reached Santa Martha hotel Vatican city. Been translated to Spanish for the Holy Father.

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    1. Hope Pope Francis has time to read the translation. Hope NOTHING is lost in the translation. Hope he is not to absorbed in reading up on NORTH AMERICA in preparation for his visit which will be WELL ATTENDED by the guitars and drums!

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  8. His Excellency Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron Ofm cap
    Step down at least until the moral questions raised against you are answered.

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    1. Step aside like Minneapolis/St Paul Bishop. Then, resign like he did AND is assistant.

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    2. Well anon at 12.06, Weinsdedt only resigned after 5 years of litigation and mounting and overwhelming media pressure.
      What have we done here on Guam? almost NADA>>>> Ergo they are still laughing at us.

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    3. Yep. That's about right. Bishops have been removed before but it isn't because Rome took action. It is because the people took ENOUGH action so that Rome could no longer ignore. Here there is not much other than a blog with a bunch of anonymous comments. The CCOG is prepared to take civil and canonical action but it takes money. I'll talk to the CCOG about how they can better present their course of action.

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    4. Fr. Matthew Blockley.August 21, 2015 at 3:38 PM


      Tim, this is a really good point you raise. I'm also asking the question do the people of Guam want to live in an island of hell created by Apuron. If people really want this hell than may be we foreigners have to leave the people in their own hell. To you and I we believe in helping the oppressed. But if the oppressed want to live in oppression maybe oppression is their destiny. May be Guam people like putrid Pius taking over island. In some nations people like oppression may be Guam is such a place. People seem content with old putrid spewing out his venom over the church.

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    5. The sad reality is that most of the Guam Catholics do not have supernatural faith. As Tim has pointed out, the problem lies at the very core of our society. We rarely see entire families attend Mass together, only a handful take part in the sacrament of reconciliation, parents send their children to attend Mass while they stay home, Catholic schools no longer emphasize that Jesus Christ is the center of Catholic education. Secularism outweighs spiritualism. Let us not kid ourselves...there will never be a major uprising from the Catholic populace. Only a few brave souls with supernatural faith have campaigned to rid our Church of the evil that threatens Her. A few more might step up. I'm praying that one or two of them will be lawyers who will take this fight to victory.

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    6. John C. Ada Toves TYPHOONAugust 21, 2015 at 11:46 PM

      Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, and Ditto. I do my part in trying to defame and depose him. I really at this point do not know what it is going to take to get our people to move, get their heads out of the sand, and take action.

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    7. Again, I want to stress: I believe Satan is using Apuron and the Neo (though we can document their crimes) as a distraction in order to do greater harm to the Church....and far more quietly. While we must continue our fight against the Apuronic destruction of our church, we must realize what it was that produced him. Hint: you can find it in the 70's. Be honest people. You know it. But you kept quiet.

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    8. what is the average age of guam's non-neocat diocesan priests today? what kind of Church do guam Catholics want to be in by the time the last of those priests retires? perhaps they haven't given that much thought.

      i think a lot of the problem is that guam Catholics don't even realize there's a problem.

      there's a method for finding root causes of problems, which the toyota motor company used to great success. it's called "the five why's." although that technique originated on the factory floor, it would be a healthy exercise for guam Catholics to go through, as a self-examination.

      start with the question we've been asking for a while now: why don't guam Catholics rise up? then for every response, keep asking why, until the root cause reveals itself.

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  9. Bishop Apuron resign Basta Basta.

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