What else did Apuron lie about? Let's go Neos, why didn't your archbishop "obey" the Pope? Is Kiki greater than the Pope? I thought obedience was your mantra? Courage!
Throughout all the patience (get it Archbishop Hon) I have put up for this man Archbishop Anthony Apuron I REJECT all trust in him. . No wonder his beloved neo's once said "That is only a rule YOU made up yourself. So, why should we follow YOUR rule?"~DianaAugust 12, 2016 at 5:36 PM . Pope Francis if you wish, look out they may include tell you this to your face!
Run Apurun, run. You, David the VG, Adrian the Jokers Wild, Dakon Kim the Finance Abuser,Pius the Putrid have all been caught with their pants down. You can never overcome the lies that have been exposed.
I hear the Mobil station in Gurley, CA is hiring. While you may have no skills in sweeping shit under the carpet, maybe pumping gas will be a career track you can handle.
This just shuts down the idea that "it's been an attack on the church" when the TRUTH has come out that the neos and their brother tony love to LIE and hide behind the cloth of the true Catholic Church. Diana May, what you gonna say about your brother tony defying the Holy See? Oh but wait, you heard something that is soon to come out? Another LIE to continue the drama?
Such a Sad Story on Our Highest Catholic Church Leader on Guam! I guess the love of earthly material assets, especially MONEY, is more important that One's Soul! God Bless Our Island!
What a hypocrite! For years, all we've heard Apuron's people say is to be obedient to him. Now we find out that he wasn't obedient to the Pope, the very person he vowed obedience to upon his ordination? Not only is this disgusting but quite alarming as well. It just shows that we've had a snake as the leader of our church - a leader who has allowed much harm and evil to permeate our midst.
If the Neos truly want to show obedience, they will return RMS to the Archdiocese. Will they? I'm not holding my breath. They have repeatedly shown that they're all about power and money.
After seeing the front-page headlines which stated "HON: APURON DEFIED POPE" (PDN, 08/19/16 issue), apuron meekly asked, "does that mean I won't get my red hat now?"
We all knew that 25 years ago. Normally it takes an archbishop about 5 years depending on the locality to be recognized for the red cap. Anthony Apuron is into his 30th year and more and still no movement. Doesn't that make one wonders why. Rome screens who to hand the red cap to. Certainly not Apuron. Let us ask ourselves why the Holy Father several times have been in this part of the region and skips us. Ever wondered why? The answer is rather obvious.
The stench emanating from the Chancery was just too much. That's why no pope wants to come here. Besides, he would just get accosted by the tambourine bangers and guitar strummers. No time to meet regular people because Apurun would only schedule the kikos to meet with him. "Ok boys, show them your fruits!"
Becky, we will all turn blue if we hold our breathe for the criminals to return the property. This whole fiasco needs to go to court. Open all the cans of worms and we will see that the festering clump of s***, has apuron stench all over it. He lied about the property. Hmmmmm.....what else is he hiding?
You can be sure these thieves have plenty of rotten fruit hidden all around. Only real question is whether Hon will bring in a trusted investigator and give him carte blanch to look into every dirty deed. Aside from the three musketeers you can be sure there would be other mysterious vacancies after such an exercise. And to think they had the gall to accuse Fr Benavente of financial mismanagement, and they never even gave him a list of charges.
Very Good Question Raymond at 11:06 AM! He called his Survivors "Liars and Actors" when, in actually, the survivors told the truth - He Lied about the true reasons for dismissing of the two Priests - He Lied about the property - And He Disobeyed the Pope! These are huge so it makes one wonder what "Little Lies" he has told!
As if the multiple sex abuse allegations weren't enough, we know learn that Apuron has defied Pope by refusing to obey his instructions. I think there is little doubt now that we have a disgraced bishop who needs to be more than removed from his position. Apuron needs to be defrocked, i.e. laicized from the priesthood. If this is not done, then he will be allowed to be buried in the Cathedral Sancturary along with former Bishops Olano, Bumgartner and Flores and that shouldn't be allowed to happen.
We might have to be magnanimous by letting the dead rest in peace. While we still have Apuron, we need to focus on his lies and deceptions to make sure he does not get away with criminal deeds. Why would he even think he can deceive people forever? Truth always comes out, thanks to the diligence of our JW leaders.
- Why "dig up Flores" 11:56 AM? Apuron did this all by himself. He was the one who molested/abused the survivors and cheated the Catholic Church out of millions and millions of dollars. He alone is to blame!
I mean they may have to exhume him and bury him outside the cathedral for the same reason Apuron won't be buried there. Flores protected Apuron and Apuron protected Flores. Flores protected Brouillard, Fr. Tony Cruz, and a long list of unmentionables. Bibi knows.
Why this fascination with exhumation, 11:56 AM/1:34 PM? Apb. Flores has gone to his maker and faced his particular judgment. Let's keep our focus on the living, "actual" wrongdoer(s).
Anonymous at 11:56AM and 1:34 PM, as one who wheels a "DEFROCK APURON" sign on the picket line, I find it curious that you are under the impression that we carry/wheel that particular sign because of the mutual protection between +Archbishop Flores+ and Anthony Sablan Apuron. You are mistaken.
There have been multiple accusations of child sexual molestation/abuse/assault made against Anthony Sablan Apuron and he has been described as a Serial Child Molester. THOSE are the reasons I picket with my DEFROCK APURON sign. Even if other signs appear on the picket line, mine will stay the same.
Just a quick comment on this. I agree that we should keep our focus on Apuron, however, while some clergy may have passed on, their victims are still alive and still suffering. We should not overlook that suffering and their need for closure just because their perpetrator is dead.
This was the case with Leo Tudela. When Leo first came forward to speak to me about his pain, he had no idea whether or not his perpetrators were alive or dead since it was 60 years ago. As it turned out, one was dead and the other was still alive at the extraordinary age of 95.
I am aware of several others who have yet to come forward and whose alleged perpetrators are now dead. We, the Church, owe them the opportunity, like Leo and the others, to tell their story, if no other reason than to relieve themselves of a burden they have carried for decades.
Imagine that that our own Archbishop Anthony Apuron is a "Bad Ass" after all. He does things his way and his way or the high way! Who are you hiding from and for whom AAA! Just where are you at AAA I wanna see your face as you face the people of Guam. I mean the people of Guam not your neocats.
where did AB Apuron receive his semianry training? where did Fr. louis B. the cappuchin receive his seminary training? what about many of the filipino priests who are always breaking the rules of the liturgy? where did they receive their priestly training? the neos have slowly and secretly influenced the church. how sad. also, why isnt the Franciscan friary being mentioned! theres some stuff going around botout that to.
You must not be paying attention. The friary was recently mentioned as the place where Leo Tudela was first molested in 1956. Also, Apuron was a "friar" at the time of the "alleged" molestations.
Apuron to this very hour is emailing friends saying he is returning september to re take over his Archdiocese. Signing himself as Anthony sablan Apuron Archbishop of Hagana Guam. Delusional or stupid?
There you go. Why haven't they ever paid for their use of the hotel, (I wouldn't call it a seminary), also the churches and other church facilities. I have seen the black bags sporadically passed at times that I thought it was only "token," as not to call the attention of free loading. The rest of us have to pay for using the church and facilities for practically everything, be it for half an hour only, (rosaries for the dead), whereas neo activities can go on for hours. Spn2
As I mentionned in my pieces on the seminary, it is not only a scam as far as a learning institution. It is also a cash laundering operation for the NCW. And for the icing on the cake: The gift by Apuron to a non profit organization of a multi million operation, allows Gennarini and his patrons to cash in even more. If you add to this the multi properties that were gifted to the NCW by brain washed members, Guam has been a wonderful cash cow for the neos. Why should we expect them to relent. On the other hand we can make such a fuss about it, that more people will wake up to who they really are behind that veil of religiousity. Specialy since that in the process, they use people they know are child abusers...Apuron Wadeson, Pius, Luis and God knows how many more. Actually I won't be surprised if and when we find out more about others soon.... This will make the legionnaries of Christ scandal pale by comparison, and rightly so. Perhaps then, and only then will Rome will really take this seriously. Until then lets not count our chickens yet. The fight is very far from over
it's funny how the Holy See reveals that it was machinations of Pius and Apuron who deceived the Catholics of Guam for the sole benefit of the NCW yet this Diana still tries to defend and deflect for these amoral men.
As Pius would say, all this is worth it to save one soul. Save your own Pius, as it written, the road to hell is paved with good intentions...
He's supposed to sit in as one of the communities' catechist this Sunday...wonder what kind of BS he will stir up to make all of this shine.
That's right, Anon 2:38, how can someone, mindlessly, just sit and listen......maybe because they don't have a mind of thier own? Or they are just weak minded? In many cases, they're just scared to accept the truth. Pray for them.
If the Archdiocese of Agana truly does not know where apuron is (which I cannot believe), then to find out all they have to do is withhold whatever money they send him regularly either to a mailing address or to a direct deposit account. He will surely contact the Archdiocese of Agana, posthaste. After all, it's money we are talking about and isn't that what apuron is only concerned with? BTW wasn't it previously mentioned he was seen at the Good Samaritan Hospital as a patient in Los Angeles recently?
If Hon wanted to really know where Apuron is he only has to ask Cristobal, David, Pius or the Waldo. Apuron is in regular communication with them and called yesterday to have them some of his things. Hon doesn't want to know.
What else did Apuron lie about? Let's go Neos, why didn't your archbishop "obey" the Pope? Is Kiki greater than the Pope? I thought obedience was your mantra? Courage!
ReplyDeleteThroughout all the patience (get it Archbishop Hon) I have put up for this man Archbishop Anthony Apuron I REJECT all trust in him.
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No wonder his beloved neo's once said "That is only a rule YOU made up yourself. So, why should we follow YOUR rule?"~DianaAugust 12, 2016 at 5:36 PM
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Pope Francis if you wish, look out they may include tell you this to your face!
Run Apurun, run. You, David the VG, Adrian the Jokers Wild, Dakon Kim the Finance Abuser,Pius the Putrid have all been caught with their pants down. You can never overcome the lies that have been exposed.
ReplyDeleteI hear the Mobil station in Gurley, CA is hiring. While you may have no skills in sweeping shit under the carpet, maybe pumping gas will be a career track you can handle.
Tim, Diana knows shit you don't know. Smiley face. She said so.
DeleteMore appropriate to say, Diana don't know shit.
DeleteHeadline was not written correctly. It should have said: "Hon: NCW told Apuron to defy pope...NCW now blames Apuron to save itself"
ReplyDeleteThis just shuts down the idea that "it's been an attack on the church" when the TRUTH has come out that the neos and their brother tony love to LIE and hide behind the cloth of the true Catholic Church. Diana May, what you gonna say about your brother tony defying the Holy See? Oh but wait, you heard something that is soon to come out? Another LIE to continue the drama?
ReplyDeleteSuch a Sad Story on Our Highest Catholic Church Leader on Guam! I guess the love of earthly material assets, especially MONEY, is more important that One's Soul! God Bless Our Island!
ReplyDeleteSmoke and mirrors from the Archdiocese.
ReplyDeleteWhat a hypocrite! For years, all we've heard Apuron's people say is to be obedient to him. Now we find out that he wasn't obedient to the Pope, the very person he vowed obedience to upon his ordination? Not only is this disgusting but quite alarming as well. It just shows that we've had a snake as the leader of our church - a leader who has allowed much harm and evil to permeate our midst.
ReplyDeleteIf the Neos truly want to show obedience, they will return RMS to the Archdiocese. Will they? I'm not holding my breath. They have repeatedly shown that they're all about power and money.
After seeing the front-page headlines which stated "HON: APURON DEFIED POPE" (PDN, 08/19/16 issue), apuron meekly asked, "does that mean I won't get my red hat now?"
ReplyDeleteWe all knew that 25 years ago. Normally it takes an archbishop about 5 years depending on the locality to be recognized for the red cap. Anthony Apuron is into his 30th year and more and still no movement. Doesn't that make one wonders why. Rome screens who to hand the red cap to. Certainly not Apuron. Let us ask ourselves why the Holy Father several times have been in this part of the region and skips us. Ever wondered why? The answer is rather obvious.
DeleteThe stench emanating from the Chancery was just too much. That's why no pope wants to come here. Besides, he would just get accosted by the tambourine bangers and guitar strummers.
DeleteNo time to meet regular people because Apurun would only schedule the kikos to meet with him.
"Ok boys, show them your fruits!"
Becky, we will all turn blue if we hold our breathe for the criminals to return the property. This whole fiasco needs to go to court. Open all the cans of worms and we will see that the festering clump of s***, has apuron stench all over it. He lied about the property. Hmmmmm.....what else is he hiding?
ReplyDeleteDeny, lie and hide.
DeleteYou can be sure these thieves have plenty of rotten fruit hidden all around. Only real question is whether Hon will bring in a trusted investigator and give him carte blanch to look into every dirty deed.
DeleteAside from the three musketeers you can be sure there would be other mysterious vacancies after such an exercise.
And to think they had the gall to accuse Fr Benavente of financial mismanagement, and they never even gave him a list of charges.
Very Good Question Raymond at 11:06 AM! He called his Survivors "Liars and Actors" when, in actually, the survivors told the truth - He Lied about the true reasons for dismissing of the two Priests - He Lied about the property - And He Disobeyed the Pope! These are huge so it makes one wonder what "Little Lies" he has told!
DeleteAs if the multiple sex abuse allegations weren't enough, we know learn that Apuron has defied Pope by refusing to obey his instructions. I think there is little doubt now that we have a disgraced bishop who needs to be more than removed from his position. Apuron needs to be defrocked, i.e. laicized from the priesthood. If this is not done, then he will be allowed to be buried in the Cathedral Sancturary along with former Bishops Olano, Bumgartner and Flores and that shouldn't be allowed to happen.
ReplyDeleteIf it goes to court, they may need to dig up Flores. All of the sex crimes happened under him.
DeleteWe might have to be magnanimous by letting the dead rest in peace. While we still have Apuron, we need to focus on his lies and deceptions to make sure he does not get away with criminal deeds. Why would he even think he can deceive people forever? Truth always comes out, thanks to the diligence of our JW leaders.
Delete- Why "dig up Flores" 11:56 AM? Apuron did this all by himself. He was the one who molested/abused the survivors and cheated the Catholic Church out of millions and millions of dollars. He alone is to blame!
DeleteI mean they may have to exhume him and bury him outside the cathedral for the same reason Apuron won't be buried there. Flores protected Apuron and Apuron protected Flores. Flores protected Brouillard, Fr. Tony Cruz, and a long list of unmentionables. Bibi knows.
DeleteWhy this fascination with exhumation, 11:56 AM/1:34 PM? Apb. Flores has gone to his maker and faced his particular judgment. Let's keep our focus on the living, "actual" wrongdoer(s).
DeleteAnonymous at 11:56AM and 1:34 PM, as one who wheels a "DEFROCK APURON" sign on the picket line, I find it curious that you are under the impression that we carry/wheel that particular sign because of the mutual protection between +Archbishop Flores+ and Anthony Sablan Apuron. You are mistaken.
DeleteThere have been multiple accusations of child sexual molestation/abuse/assault made against Anthony Sablan Apuron and he has been described as a Serial Child Molester. THOSE are the reasons I picket with my DEFROCK APURON sign. Even if other signs appear on the picket line, mine will stay the same.
Just a quick comment on this. I agree that we should keep our focus on Apuron, however, while some clergy may have passed on, their victims are still alive and still suffering. We should not overlook that suffering and their need for closure just because their perpetrator is dead.
DeleteThis was the case with Leo Tudela. When Leo first came forward to speak to me about his pain, he had no idea whether or not his perpetrators were alive or dead since it was 60 years ago. As it turned out, one was dead and the other was still alive at the extraordinary age of 95.
I am aware of several others who have yet to come forward and whose alleged perpetrators are now dead. We, the Church, owe them the opportunity, like Leo and the others, to tell their story, if no other reason than to relieve themselves of a burden they have carried for decades.
Imagine that that our own Archbishop Anthony Apuron is a "Bad Ass" after all. He does things his way and his way or the high way! Who are you hiding from and for whom AAA! Just where are you at AAA I wanna see your face as you face the people of Guam. I mean the people of Guam not your neocats.
ReplyDeletewhere did AB Apuron receive his semianry training? where did Fr. louis B. the cappuchin receive his seminary training? what about many of the filipino priests who are always breaking the rules of the liturgy? where did they receive their priestly training? the neos have slowly and secretly influenced the church. how sad. also, why isnt the Franciscan friary being mentioned! theres some stuff going around botout that to.
ReplyDeleteYou must not be paying attention. The friary was recently mentioned as the place where Leo Tudela was first molested in 1956. Also, Apuron was a "friar" at the time of the "alleged" molestations.
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DeleteApuron to this very hour is emailing friends saying he is returning september to re take over his Archdiocese. Signing himself as Anthony sablan Apuron Archbishop of Hagana Guam. Delusional or stupid?
Louis B was not a Capuchin.
Delete"Oh where, oh where are you tony apuron.....Oh where, oh where can you be?"
ReplyDeleteWhy did the Archdiocese subsidize the RMS? Shouldn't they be paying rent for the use of the place? How come the Archdiocese continues to subsidize it?
ReplyDeleteThere you go. Why haven't they ever paid for their use of the hotel, (I wouldn't call it a seminary), also the churches and other church facilities. I have seen the black bags sporadically passed at times that I thought it was only "token," as not to call the attention of free loading. The rest of us have to pay for using the church and facilities for practically everything, be it for half an hour only, (rosaries for the dead), whereas neo activities can go on for hours. Spn2
DeleteAs I mentionned in my pieces on the seminary, it is not only a scam as far as a learning institution. It is also a cash laundering operation for the NCW.
ReplyDeleteAnd for the icing on the cake: The gift by Apuron to a non profit organization of a multi million operation, allows Gennarini and his patrons to cash in even more. If you add to this the multi properties that were gifted to the NCW by brain washed members, Guam has been a wonderful cash cow for the neos. Why should we expect them to relent. On the other hand we can make such a fuss about it, that more people will wake up to who they really are behind that veil of religiousity. Specialy since that in the process, they use people they know are child abusers...Apuron Wadeson, Pius, Luis and God knows how many more. Actually I won't be surprised if and when we find out more about others soon.... This will make the legionnaries of Christ scandal pale by comparison, and rightly so. Perhaps then, and only then will Rome will really take this seriously. Until then lets not count our chickens yet. The fight is very far from over
Is Pius a child abuser also???
ReplyDeleteit's funny how the Holy See reveals that it was machinations of Pius and Apuron who deceived the Catholics of Guam for the sole benefit of the NCW yet this Diana still tries to defend and deflect for these amoral men.
ReplyDeleteAs Pius would say, all this is worth it to save one soul. Save your own Pius, as it written, the road to hell is paved with good intentions...
He's supposed to sit in as one of the communities' catechist this Sunday...wonder what kind of BS he will stir up to make all of this shine.
Fantas-thic! In the communities. How can anyone in his right mind sit there and listen to Putrid. Seriously?
DeleteThat's right, Anon 2:38, how can someone, mindlessly, just sit and listen......maybe because they don't have a mind of thier own? Or they are just weak minded? In many cases, they're just scared to accept the truth. Pray for them.
DeleteIf the Archdiocese of Agana truly does not know where apuron is (which I cannot believe), then to find out all they have to do is withhold whatever money they send him regularly either to a mailing address or to a direct deposit account. He will surely contact the Archdiocese of Agana, posthaste. After all, it's money we are talking about and isn't that what apuron is only concerned with? BTW wasn't it previously mentioned he was seen at the Good Samaritan Hospital as a patient in Los Angeles recently?
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to believe that Archbishop Hon says he does not know where Apuron is. Does he really think we are that stupid?
DeleteAB Savio knows where apuron is. No Doubt.....
DeleteIf Hon wanted to really know where Apuron is he only has to ask Cristobal, David, Pius or the Waldo. Apuron is in regular communication with them and called yesterday to have them some of his things. Hon doesn't want to know.
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