Sunday, August 21, 2016

PICKET ALL YOU WANT, JUST DON'T GET IN OUR WAY

Posted by Bob, aka Robert Klitzkie

When Staying Out Of The Way Is The Most Important Thing

This morning a tour bus disgorged its load  of members of the Catholic Daughters in front of the Cathedral. A member was heard by one of our picketers to say:
"Picket all you want, just don't get in our way

The following comments (with my emphasis) appeared under the Sunday, August 14 post which pictured and described that Sunday’s picket: 

"Although I respect the protesters and understand where they are coming from, they now protest directly in front of the cathedral instead of across the street from it as they did in the past. I was dropped off in front of the cathedral and had to cross the protest line to get into mass. It made me feel uncomfortable.

The 9:30 Mass is traditionally Apuron's to celebrate. There is a picket line every Sunday at 9. It is meant to protest the archbishop's Mass. Crossing a picket line means you do not support the cause of the protest. You are not in solidarity with the picketers, which would explain your discomfort. There are plenty of other Masses you can attend unless you mean to deliberately thumb your nose at this cause. Crossing the picket line did not show respect or understanding of the protesters at all!
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Yes, 7:36, walking outside in the heat of the day would be uncomfortable for sure. Fortunately, the a/c must've been on for you at mass. Pity, if it was hot in church too.

@anon 7:36pm: what is it about crossing the protest line that made you feel uncomfortable? did they block your access? i'd be very surprised if they did.

or is it that people are disturbing the peace of your sunday routine?

is it that people dare to question the so-called leaders of the guam church?

is it that people are disrupting the "unity" and "harmony" among guam Catholics?

@anon 7:36pm: have you spent just a little bit of time learning what it is these people are protesting? why they're out there in guam weather every sunday?


if you have, then either you've dismissed their claims and think apuron and his cohorts are in the right. or, worse, you've decided to stay out of it all.


since, i assume, you made it to that 9:30 Mass, you would have also heard the Gospel for that sunday. i hope you haven't already forgotten Jesus's message. 

has He not made your heart burn?"

Pity that the Catholic Daughter's statement wasn't recorded. The recording could be forwarded to Apuron as it would have probably been of some comfort to him to know that for at least one Catholic "don't get in our way" trumps the morals, ethics and principles that motivate the picketers carrying those Defrock Apuron signs. 

After all, what's more important, a little inconvenience between the bus and the church or standing up against a bishop who has defied the Pope and has been labeled by a career professional as a serial child molester.

For at least one Catholic Daughter what's most important is that committed Catholics heed this command:

"...just don't get in our way."

24 comments:

  1. Lady in blue walked by and was grumbling something about joining her in Mass. I informed her that there were earlier Masses and that I had already been to Mass. I also said she could join out picket line which was defending the very church she was entering. She entered angry but I'm sure she still received the Body of Christ. What we keep forgetting to do Bob is to take up the parking spaces in front of and around the Cathedral. We keep getting better. Oh BTW thank you to all the new faces who joined us today. Biba Katoliku!!!!

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  2. the person in question must be new to the Catholic Church, if she's not, then she and apuron do not have faith in the Pope Francis...

    the following are "make a mess" headlines

    ‘Rebel’ Pope urges youth to ‘make a mess’ in dioceses

    Pope to youth: shake things up, bring Church to the streets

    Catholic Bishop: ‘Pope Francis is Fond of Creating a Mess. Mission Accomplished.’

    Pope Francis Urges Catholics to Make a Mess
    Wow. Pope Francis told Catholics to go make a "mess." How awesome is that?

    lady, the Pope says "make a mess" don't like it; tough boo-boo on you...
    but; listen to all the protesters and "just don't get in their way."

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  3. Dear Anonymous at 8:56pm:

    If you mean to protest the archbishop's Mass, you cannot do that without protesting a Mass. If you protest a Mass, you protest people hearing the Word of God at that Mass and participating in the celebration of the Eucharist at that Mass. As a matter of a legitimate, holy strategy, would it not be better to carry the "Defrock Apuron" signs on the other side of the street? Then you would be clearly separating the Mass from the protest against the archbishop. To be clear: I accept the goal of defrocking the archbishop, but I do not agree to protesting a Mass, central to our faith.

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    1. How do you do your protests?

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    2. 8:56, I was not protesting the Mass. I was marching against a disobedient, lying, stealing, and child abusing bishop with the message of defrocking him. I didn't go into the sanctuary but stood outside the church building. For me, be it on the sidewalk, across the street, at the paseo loop, in front of the chancery, in your neighborhood makes no difference. The aim is to get that message out. Defrock Apuron.

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    3. Guile's typical attempt to sound relevant and remind us of his superior spiritual state.

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  4. it seems to me that that particular Catholic daughter has the same attitude as deacon tenorio: my bishop, right or wrong.

    how prevalent among our elders is the deacon tenorio attitude? how do we get them to open their eyes?

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    1. There were two groups I know present at the 0930 mass, the Catholic Daughters of America and the Legionnaires of Mary. The group that I saw disembark the bus in front of the Basilica were of the blue attired group. One said they were from the Tamuning parish. The CDOA wear white apparel. Who's that lady?

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    2. It seems to me that all the Catholic Daughters do is look holy in white dresses at special masses and attend each others' funerals. I've never heard of them as actually DOING anything.

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    3. They raise money for the Archbishop Apuron's projects.

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    4. Dear Agnes @4:24--
      Have you asked any of them what they do? What is their purpose? Your comment is insulting!
      And regarding attending funerals: don't you know that attending funerals is a favourite pastime for elderly Chamorros? It's cultural!

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    5. Why do they want to cross our picket line?

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    6. 6:11. Why don't you just answer Agnes' question instead of ridiculing her tone? So other than raise
      Money for Apuron, what do the Catholic Daughters do?

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    7. When did this become a "picket line" that is not to be crossed? I understood this to be a protest to be visible and bring awareness to others.

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    8. I don't block people going into the church while walking the protest line, I don't obstruct traffic, I don't mumble anything under my breath, and I try to keep a smile despite the hot and bright sunlight. More the case, while in line, I get snide comments from folks who are already 5 - 10, or even 30 minutes late into the Mass. Maybe they have some other reason for complaint. Who did what to whom?

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    9. "AnonymousAugust 14, 2016 at 8:56 PM
      The 9:30 Mass is traditionally Apuron's to celebrate. There is a picket line every Sunday at 9. It is meant to protest the archbishop's Mass. Crossing a picket line means you do not support the cause of the protest. You are not in solidarity with the picketers, which would explain your discomfort. There are plenty of other Masses you can attend unless you mean to deliberately thumb your nose at this cause. Crossing the picket line did not show respect or understanding of the protesters at all!

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    10. Bringing in two busloads of ladies to the 9:30 Mass looks like somebody intends to "...deliberately rhumb their nose" at our cause.

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    11. Must be because hate knows no bounds.

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  5. The two organizations are acting like strikebreakers busing in people to cross our picket line.

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    1. It sure does look that way. Let's see if they show up again.

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    2. "Strikebreakers"? I was protesting, not on strike. If people want to go to Mass, then let them. Just so long as they see that we are Silent No More.

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  6. Looks like Hon is pitting man makos now.

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  7. They are probably looking for me..lol..One Lady accused me of stirring up trouble with my lies..she said everything was peaceful until I showed up..

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