Monday, April 24, 2017

HEY PATRICK WALL, YOU DON'T KNOW CRAP

By Tim Rohr

From today's PDN article
Wall said he challenges those who say the Roman canonical system is the only means of justice for Apuron. 
“In fact, the only reason the pope ordered the inquiry of Apuron is because the civil judicial system in Guam exposed Apuron. Rome is simply trying to get out in front of public scandal, doing damage control with the canonical system that previously failed to act and was following the old Roman method of letting sleeping dogs lie,” he said.
Little Mr. Wall makes his living drumming up business for his "super-lawyer" friends, so what else could we expect him to say. And since I am the only one publicly saying that the "Roman canonical system is the only means of justice for Apuron," that means he's challenging me. So I will personally take on this pathetic little ex-priest here. 


The fact is that Apuron was exposed LONG BEFORE there there was any ability for the civil judicial system to do anything. Apuron was exposed by the people he raped and molested months before there was any law in place to hold Apuron accountable. In fact, because there was NO civil law to protect them from Apuron suing them at the time they came forward, it was extremely dangerous for them to do so. (He had already threatened John Toves, Roy Quintanilla, Doris Concepcion and myself.)

The law lifting the civil statute of limitations was not enacted until late September 2016, and in great part, the law was introduced, passed, and enacted primarily due to what had already been exposed about Apuron, especially at the public hearings (there were three of them) where Apuron's victims themselves publicly testified. 

Now, here is what I mean when I say there is no justice for Apuron outside of the canonical court.

The law only lifts the civil statute of limitations, not the criminal. This means Apuron can only be found liable, not guilty. He'll never go to jail for his crimes. The most that can happen to him civilly is that he will be fined. 

Apuron doesn't care about that. He has more personal assets than most clerics but that's not saying much. In any event, he will be well taken care of by his supporters the rest of his life. In fact, he will be a hero to the Neocatechumenal Way where he'll be carted around the world to all the Kiko events where he'll sit on the stage next to his prophet and held up as the persecuted bishop from Guam. 

The only thing that can stop this is the canonical court. More than money, Apuron loves his robes. Defrocking him is the only justice for Apuron. And only Rome can do that. Short of defrocking, publicly removing him as Archbishop of Agana will have to do, and the civil court cannot do that either. 

Rome is NOT trying to "get out in front of this" as the pathetic little ex-priest claims. Rome is responding to the monstrous amount of work many people did both on the street and behind the scenes, and are STILL doing. We built the case against Apuron LONG BEFORE the civil system did anything. In fact, so much for a civil system where every local judge has recused themselves. 

For those of us who fought for Apuron's victims, who fought these four long years to expose all the other excrement Apuron created over his thirty year reign of terror, WE DON'T GIVE A CRAP what the civil court will do to Apuron if it even gets there. We want him GONE!

So Mr. Wall, get your head out of your wallet. It wasn't attorneys and legislators who made this happen on Guam. It was us. 

19 comments:

  1. Also, I am fairly sure that it is this Wall guy who has bombarding me with comments and insults, most of which I have chosen not to publish. His comments are full of detail about other dioceses — as if he is an insider, and probably is, always critical of any sort of third party attempt to resolve these cases, and is always promoting “super lawyer” Jeff Anderson. He also mocks David Lujan as some small time lawyer and the people of Guam as naive and stupid. Jerk.

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    1. You choose not to publish Wall's comments because they make sense and you have no adequate replies. When experts on abusive priests are needed by Courts and the media, they ask for people like him, not you.

      Being an ex-Benedictine monk from that obscene St. John's Abbey in Collegeville, Minnesota, Wall can write volumes on pervert priests and religious.

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    2. Aha, so you know those comments are Wall's, i.e. "yours." Just as I thought. A pathetic ex-priest with an ax to grind and a wallet to fill. Thanks for letting me know who you are, Patrick. SMH. Some lawyer.

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  2. Also, the article calls Wall a canon lawyer. If he told the reporter that he was a canon lawyer then he purposely misrepresented himself. From Wall's own blog:

    "Patrick Wall, a world-renowned expert on the Catholic Clergy Abuse Crisis, has been working on behalf of victims of clergy sexual abuse since 2002. A former Roman Catholic Priest and Benedictine Monk, Wall has a bachelor’s degree in philosophy and a master’s of divinity degree from Saint John’s University in Minnesota. Wall has also pursued graduate studies at the University of Minnesota, the Gregorian University and Cardiff University in Canon Law."

    Apparently Wall only "pursued" studies in Canon Law. Kind of like Adrian. LOL.
    https://patrickjwall.wordpress.com/about/

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  3. The attorney should change his last name from Wall to Wallet.

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  4. Tim is jealous because Wall makes a helluva lot more money than he does and he has a huge professional reputation. Nothing he bitches about in his ignorance can change that.

    Tim's experience is limited to tiny Guam's situation. He is not regarded as an authority on abusive Catholic clergy anywhere else and it's time he realized that.


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    1. Hey shithead. Thanks for getting it right. I don't pretend to know anything outside the Guam situation but I DAMN WELL know the Guam situation, so suck on that. And for the record, I don't make ANY money doing this and could care less about a professional reputation in your damn ambulance chaser business.

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    2. You act like a Judge and Jury on everything, asshole. Where were you during the 30 years when Apuron was destroying the archdiocese right in front of you?

      Unfortunately, the canonical tribunal will probably let Apuron skate. If he does, all of his NCW homies will too. Guam's Church will be in a worse mess than ever.

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    3. How fun that I can make you grovel on my blog. How many times a day do you check it, O brave one?

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    4. It doesn't look to me like they're groveling. More like they can't believe what a blowhard gasbag you are.


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    5. Anon 12:53am...you're nothing but a punk ass. Get your crayons out and go back to coloring. Lol.

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    6. @9:27. I force them (and you) to come to my blog. I force you to comment on my blog. I force you to take time away from your life to pay attention to me. And I force you to keep hiding behind a rock. Every time you come here you pay homage to me. You grovel. So start your own blog. Oh, yah. No one would read it. LOL.

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    7. Yeah Tim!! you're just a big old Pussing!! fuck the LOL

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    8. God, I love this guy. :)

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    9. Tim...you're definitely winning. They're to the point of frustration that they can't even spell correctly. What a bunch of losers. Lol.

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    10. whoever this person is writing foul language on this blog should not be allowed.

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    11. Tim, you can't force anything. You're powerless. People only come here if and when they choose to do so because Reporters like Chuck White are worth reading. You act like a cat whose tail was stepped on.

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    12. LOL You're here again. Chuck White writes on his own blog. He only links to this one. So why don't you comment there? LOL. I know why.

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  5. Also, Tim, it was in June 2016, when Abp. Hon came to Guam at the order of the Pope, and around the same time the Pope suspended Apuron, because of how he responded to accusations of sex abuse of altar boys. So, Rome was already well aware of the problems Apuron has caused our Church on Guam through a lot of documents given to the Nuncio in New Zealand and I am sure by the reports in JungleWatch. I recall Abp. Hon stating that there was a Canonical trial already going on in Rome at one of his press conferences shortly after he arrived here way before the law was passed to lift the civil statute of limitations on sex abuse crimes.

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