Tuesday, April 11, 2017

PACIFIC DAILY NEWS. Archdiocese: Dismiss clergy sex abuse lawsuits

Posted by Tim

This is an unfortunate headline and I believe we will get the rest of the story this afternoon at a press conference. The archdiocese is actually very near working out an agreement with attorneys for the plaintiffs that will be more beneficial to both sides than going through the courts (except for the Apuron cases). 

Yesterday, April 10 was the deadline to file to defend or dismiss. The archdiocese had asked for an extension because of what it had planned to announce today, but it was denied. Also, from what I was told, filing a motion to dismiss is pretty much a requisite action for the counsel representing the defendant. 

As you may be aware, this blog has been the force behind all of this, and I personally pushed and fought for the law lifting the civil statute of limitations. The law needs to stay in place as it is what protects the victims as they come forward. However, the court process is not always best for the victims and an alternative is in the making.

This is especially true in the Brouillard cases where the 95 year old priest with nothing to his name has already admitted guilt, and in the cases where the perpetrators are dead. I make an exception for the Apuron cases. Those cases DO need to go to court. And Apuron also needs to be held liable for his thirty years of covering up the abuse cases like Brouillard's. 

Note: There will NOT be a picket on Easter Sunday as stated in the article. The PDN was notified and a correction will be printed.

THE PRESS CONFERENCE

51 comments:

  1. Pedophile Camacho on Saipan is trying to weasel out of trouble too. He got two extensions from the Court. He should be flushed down a public toilet along with Apuron.

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    1. Camacho walks away Free
      May he rot in hell!

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    2. Really. I'd wish you'd use some brains.

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  2. Big announcement from the Chancery today. Wait for it.

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    1. It won't be THEE announcement. But still an important one ­čśŐ

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    2. Yeah, Tim going to Prison and not to Jail, but still an important one :)

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  3. like you always said Tim there will be no trial and out of court settlements will take place rightly. But this does not decrease the gravity of what took place. These things still happened.

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    1. That is correct. In fact, by establishing the third party operation, it increases the gravity because the local church is saying that they consider the matter to be so serious that they intend to see to and pay for the restoration of the victims on every level as far as possible, whereas the courts would simply mete out a dollar figure, much of which would go to the attorneys and then send the victims on their way. I want to stress however, that wherever it is still possible to pursue and punish the perpetrator, victims may still and should do so.

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    2. As always you are fair and logical in your answer Tim.
      However, hope healing allows the abuser to walk away free like John Wayne into the sunset. Where is Justice there? There is none? Not even a scolding from the pope.

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    3. There is nothing in this that stops the abused from legally pursuing the abuser. Caspino said that victims may avail themselves of Hope and Healing AND the courts if they so wish. However, there is really only two abusers that is worth going after: Apuron and Camacho. Antonio Cruz is dead, Brouillard is 95 and penniless, Cepeda is just as penniless I'm told. Remember, only the civil statute was lifted, NOT the criminal. The only thing that can be done to any the perpetrators named so far is find them liable. That's it.

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    4. Frankly a scolding from the Holy Father would have been enough and an answer as to why for many years the Holy See ignored complaints about these guys.
      As you said Tim it is the people of God who will pay for all this not those who did the crimes. Many will not take money from the people of God thats not nice to do that. But the reality remains they all walk away laughing. worst of all there are clergy going around now openly defending those names mentioned.
      There is no justice here and I fail to see how a church will heal by these developments. Yes, i see the value of not going to court and support the atty. and our own David Lujan on this point. But those same names escape all the damage they inflicted on others for many years. May they rot in hell!!!

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    5. The problem is that the Holy See only got complaints. Having gone through the process of actual research and documentation, the cost, the time, the effort, the constant ridicule, the threats...I can see why few take on this task. It's hard enough just getting people to put their names to their comments instead of using "anonymous."

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  4. I know a lot of us are waiting anxiously to hear what the Important announcement is or will be..We have been moving forward with this mess a step at a time and are All very grateful for what the Bishop has accomplished already...Thank you very much Bishop Brynes

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  5. What time is announcement?

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  6. Even if the civil lawsuits against apuron are dismissed, the canonical trial regarding apuron will still go on. And it is only through a canonical trial that apuron could end up being defrocked --which has been our main objective all along, right? BTW, who asked to have a canonical trial for apuron, anyway? Arrogant apuron, that's who!

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  7. Tim. folks have listened to press confernce and at first glance it seems impressive. But we must be cautious. Is this guy from orange saying abusers walk away without a scolding.

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    1. The program has NOTHING to do with the abusers. That's a separate matter.

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  8. pissed as hell. so he is telling us abusers walk away scott free.

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    1. No. So let me say this again. The abusers named thus far CANNOT be found "guilty," only "liable." This means that they cannot go to jail or be punished criminally. They can only be "fined." And if they don't have any assets, there is NOTHING that can be done to them. This is why it was important for those of us who worked on it, to include institutional liability in the law.

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    2. They may not be found guilty but the court actions may prove the incidents occured. Is not that the objective? David,Melbourne

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    3. The objective is to get rid of Apuron. He covered all of this for 30 years. The canonical court is in a much better position to do that than the civil court. Plus, few attorneys are going to work that hard and long for no fee. The victims do not have the money to pay the lawyers for a long drawn out legal battle which is why the attorneys will be anxious to settle. This is why it was SO CRITICAL for Apuron's victims to testify to Cardinal Burke.

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  9. There are alot of weakness in the stratergy being offered in hope healing. At First it sounds impressive and Atty.Mike comes over well. However who is paying for this hope healing program? Are there enough trained counsellors psychologists to deal with the issues. Many questions not answered. Please can you advise tim. Thankyou.

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    1. We, the Catholics in the pews, are paying, one way or another. Apparently Attorney Caspino has an already well developed nationwide network of counselors as he has been doing this for twenty years with many dioceses and hundred of victims. Google him. Attorney Michael Caspino.

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  10. please publish Hot line number on your page. we could hardly read number on Kuam news.

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  11. Tim, Personally Pushed and Fought to destroy the Church,with all that Church money going to his fake victims, profiting from all the Church property great Job Tim.

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    1. 4:13 PM, yawn, double yawn. Go back to your black hole somewhere in that poisonous nebulae where you come from. Go save your own neo community, we will take it from here, you useless imp!

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    2. Anon 4:13 PM. What's the matter honey,no moe money for you? Too bad so sad....NOT..running scared now cause extra funds are no longer available at your disposal..

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  12. Tim,I have a question Mr Caspino said that he is meeting All the victims starting with Dave lujan's clients so they can determine at what level everyone's case is..How can they determine that in Sonny case if he is deceased ?

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    1. Sonny Quinata (his estate) is represented by Attorney Lujan, based on the accounts provided by his mother and brother.

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  13. what if some or at least one of the victims don't want to participate in this program and just want to get his settlement .will there be a conflict and delay for rest of Victims because of this..Did they say how long before they can get their Settlement check?

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    1. the plan is to complete the settlements in a matter of months. no one is forced to use the program. plaintiffs may still avail themselves of the courts.

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    2. what if the Victim refuses to participate in the program and does not want to go to court either,..will that eliminate him from getting the settlement he seeks in his lawsuit.what if he just wants to be compensated for pain,suffering and everything he has gone through and does not want to deal with anything else..He just wants what he is seeking for,be awarded what he is asking and move on with his life..

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    3. Well then who would he ask?

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  14. To all the VICTIMS,
    Before any settlement is accepted, and final, may Attorney Lujan include the DEFROCK of Archbishop Apuron as part of the settlement.

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    1. I wish he could do that, but it would mean nothing. No one has the authority to defrock Apuron but the pope. That's why it is/was critical for his victims to testify before the canonical court. There is NO other way.

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    2. Then what's the use of this man Michael Caspino suggestions on healing. All the victims could receive therapy, and if healed one day they may see Arch. Apuron back on the altar. What happens then!

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    3. Exactly. This is why I am so grateful that at least two of Apuron's known victims testified before the canonical court. It is the ONLY way to get rid of Apuron.

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    4. Lets focus on Apuron not this Caspino guy.

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    5. Is his really Excellent ExcellencyApuron celebrating Mass with his tiny tim voice in CALI??

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  15. Thankyou for interesting comments.
    very important we all try understand situation. Tim reminded us this is a civil case not a criminal case. Difficult to manifest facts crime of 40 years ago.
    Situation at present is the Archdiocese does not have any money and is infact broke. Infact It is now operating on 0 balance. Reality is Apuron and his birds have now led Archdiocese to Financial ruin.
    Abusers will not face a criminal trial but they have contributed to the destruction of the church they claimed to serve. Only the Vatican now can take the necessary action against the abusers.

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  16. Tim can you tell us from where exactly is this Guam Hot line being answered from? Thankyou.

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  17. I have contacted the Office of SNAP. SNAP does not approve of Atty. Caspino.

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    1. You should. Stick to what you know best, Apuron.

      SNAP is the organization that kicked $3 billion worth of covered up US abuse cases into high gear. They know a lot more about that scene than you ever will.

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    2. SNAP is not as righteous as you think. Their top dogs have all resigned because of a brewing scandal. Apparently SNAP was getting kickbacks from the Anderson Law firm and others for drumming up victims. Their incentive was money, not to help the victims. They got rich by doing so. Check it out.

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    3. 6:25 AM, you claim to know a lot about SNAP. Could you tell us about the latest fiasco about this organization in cahoots with lawyers in exchange for financial windfall? They seem to be an employment agency for sharks. The ideals of SNAP are good but at the same time, look at this organization with the cautionary tale applicable to all human endeavor. Rose-tinted glasss never got us anywhere before..

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    4. 9:51 AM. I'll get the low down on it and send it in to JW. It's big. The Anderson Law firm has made multi millions for themselves as they drove dioceses into bankrupcty. Their cover is that they do it for the victims but they get a 50% fee. In the end, victims don't get much, no counseling, no healing, dioceses get destroyed, and the Anderson Law firm is laughing all the way to the bank.

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