Thursday, May 1, 2014

TWISTING IN THE WIND

Well the Anonymous Coward who challenged me to substantiate my contentions is now twisting in the wind. Let's see what he has to say. (I'm taking out his mention of other people since I'm the target.)
While your page views on blogspot have risen, people viewing your posts on the jw facebook group has dwindled more and more.....just thought you might want to take notice of this fact. 

Wow. That's brilliant. And that proves? Let me tell you what it proves. As should be terribly obvious to you since you use it yourself, people prefer to stay anonymous in this conversation and they can't do that on Facebook, so they come here. Plus all the action is in the comments and they can't view those on Facebook. The group and the page were created to notify those on FB of new posts. And as an FYI, because you seem incapable of comprehending, joining an FB group or "liking" a Page does not mean that one supports what is said in the group or on the Page. There are intelligent people who simply join or "like" because they want to follow. But then you're trying to prove something, aren't you? BTW, what are you doing stalking my FB group? Don't you have a parish to take care of?

I was awe struck when I came across this initial post..."It was suggested that I create a JungleWatch Facebook Group. Here it is. It is open for now. We'll ban jerks." What sad attitude shines through this comment. 
Ummm, yah. I was being called some pretty nasty names and was receiving personal threats and threats to my family, all from your Peace & Joy brothers. So yah, I banned jerks. But as you can see from my posting of your comments, I allow them here. 
(Deleted reference to other people.) I only say this because even though we try our hardest to turn this into something positive, and as you have threatened, you will never run out of nonsense. 
Yes, we all can see how hard you are trying to turn this into something positive. And yes, I will never run out of nonsense because people like you keep handing it to me. Thanks. I see that your comment was made at 1:06 AM this morning. Can't sleep?
You continue to post up gossip. 
Anyone who is not trying to cover for something can see the inanity of this inanity. But let's say that it is. In the words of Zoltan, "SO WHAT?" It's my blog. If I want to run a gossip column, it's my business. But the very fact that you spend so much time here is evidence that it is not gossip, isn't it? You're afraid of me. And why are you afraid? Why are you up at 1AM reading JungleWatch and sweating? 
I say gossip because you dont have any factual evidence. You have copies of letters that prove everything besides.  
Ah, there you have it ladies and gentlemen. Not only do the letters from the archbishop not prove anything, they apparently prove the opposite. Ummm, you forgot something. You forgot to show us just how they do that. But, oh yah. You can't. Classic Kiko-bot.
The assumptions against the NCW have no standpoint.
You really shouldn't try to use such big words. ["Standpoint": 1. the point or place at which a person stands to view something.] 2. the mental position, attitude, etc., from which a person views and judges things.] I'd say I have one. 
Everytime you are confronted with facts, you go way off track,, with another whole subject.
Ummm, let's see, what facts would those be? That you have been getting away with your liturgical abuses? That your hands haven't been slapped? As I told David G. earlier the reason you haven't had your hands slapped is because it is NOT the pope's job to guard the liturgy in a diocese, IT IS THE BISHOP'S. Do you see the problem? 

But as to my "assumptions" about the NCW...really? My "assumptions"? Okay, let's give this a try with you. Let's see if you can provide some facts. 1) Do you or do you not consume the consecrated bread "as soon as" it is placed in your hand? 2) Does the celebrant or does he not consume the consecrated species prior to distributing it to the communicants? Can't wait to hear your non-answer.
This is the timeline according to how I have kept tabs...
Wow. You're keeping tabs on "gossip". Don't you have a life? Oh, that's right. It's not gossip and you know it. That's why you're keeping tabs at 1AM, isn't it? 
1. Dialogue began about the Removal of Fr. Paul as Pastor of Sta Barbara.

2. Speculation arose that the removal was a front for the NCW to infiltrate Sta Barbara.
3. NCW members denied this speculation
4. Heresies and other theological untruths were questioned in regards to the NCW.
5.Tim requested for documentation indicating the permission the NCW had to distribute communion in the manner that they do.
6. NCW members informed Tim that the document he is requesting is not available.
7. Pro and Anti NCW debates, arguments ensued.
8. Tim continues to expose untruths of practices within the NCW
Go ahead, list the "untruths". I've been waiting for many years. 
9. Tim threatens the NCW, Archdiocese officials to "shut up or else" he threatened to reveal an archive of "secrets".
Ummm, no. I have been asking them, begging them, pleading with them TO TALK as everyone with a non-Kiko brain can see.
10. Anti and Pro NCW arguments continue.

11. Tim does not deliver on his promise to release his "secret" archive.
I "promised"? This seems to really bother you, doesn't it? By the way, one of the things I have, probably the most damning, has been sequestered by an attorney who is currently preparing a civil case. He can't stop me from using it, but it now has a more important use. It's too bad this has had to go that far. Fr. Paul was willing to forgive and forget the day the archbishop asked him to meet at a secret location. Instead, the archbishop told him to cool it. It's not cooling. Thanks for the opportunity to let everyone know. You're the archbishop's best friend, aren't you? I bet he appreciates your challenge so that this could be drug out all over again in all its ugly and damning detail. But have it your way. BTW, that's why I (and many others) think this is Fr. Adrian. Everyone knows he/you want to be the next bishop. What better way to speed things up, right?
12. Anti and Pro NCW arguments continue.

13. Tim begins to draw attention to numerous "gossip" about financial, land disputes within the archdiocese.
This is a great segue into the upcoming episodes. Thanks for bringing it up. Most people don't care about the theological and liturgical discussion. But they DO care about their money, don't they? Do you even know why Rome ordered an audit on the archdiocese? 
How did we start off at San Ramon Hill and end up at route 16? Joy!
Ummm, you got hungry? Get some sleep. You're gonna need it. 

10 comments:

  1. Tim this rings to me as hypocrisy superior, as it is you who set your blog open to anonymous comments and your camp has the most benefits out of it! Just count your own anonymous followers, please.

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    1. Actually I can't count them. First of all they aren't my followers. They are following the story, most of which has been provided by your side. Second, since they are mostly anonymous, I can't count them. Your side has even accused them of only being 4 or 5 people who make lots of comments. Third, blogger gives me an option of turning comments on or off, and if on, the option to moderate them. Even if I could require names, I would have no way of knowing if it was someone's real name. But thanks for pointing out that our side is winning. Wasn't it you that said I was losing? Figure it out and get back to me.

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    2. P.S. If I required names, would you use yours? Your real one?

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    3. You are hypocritical again. When people use their names, you jump on them and orchestrate mobbing attacks against them. That is your reality You are a violent person who cannot take opposing views.

      You push Fr. Paul into a vicious battle as your foot soldier that may deeply hurt and divide the church and the faithful of Guam. If there is an error here, the church will correct it. Why don't you trust this on the church in good faith? Don't you believe in the canonical procedure? Then why aren't you patient enough and wait for its conclusion?

      You truly seem to want to inflict much damage on the Catholic church out of sheer anger. People perceive this as your goal. Fr. Paul keeps his distance from you for a good reason.

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    4. Why do you think I allow your comments to be posted?

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    5. P.S. I had completely dropped the Fr. Paul thing, if you hadn't noticed. It was you who challenged me to present the facts. So I am.

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  2. I haven't seen any shred of new information on this blog in the last 2 months or so... Tim, you recycle yourself over and over again. It won't be sufficient.

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    1. Exactly. There is absolutely nothing new. But your side keeps challenging me. So I have to repeat it. Like I am now with you. But thanks for bumping up my numbers.

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  3. to Anonymous Coward

    anyone w/ a blog or website ALWAYS BAN jerks, trolls, gov.planted shills & 'useful idiots'..that's a communist term for ppl who don't know their @ from left-center-field & "will never run out of nonsense." no matter how many FACTS they are thwarted with!

    1st maxim of useful idiots; facts=gossip

    I regret to inform you that NCW IS BEING EXPOSED IN EVERY PARISH AROUND THE WORLD.

    Dear junglewatch2, keep your hand closer to your chest...just like Sheriff Arpaio.

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  4. Can't stay away, can you!

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