Sunday, June 1, 2014

WHO DONE IT?

So we now know that there was no invitation from Cardinal Tagle of Manila either to Kiko and his team nor to the "Neocatchumenal Communities of Guam and Saipan" as Jennifer Dulla reported on the front page of the May 18, 2014 edition of the U Matuna, the official newspaper of the Archdiocese of Agana.

This is rather serious stuff. A whole event, at great cost, has been organized under false pretenses (if not an outright lie), and a Cardinal's name was used without his knowledge or permission to substantiate the lie. This is an abuse of the highest order, certainly the kind of abuse that we are used to with Kiko, but now we have the leadership of our own archdiocese directly participating in the abuse. 


We have to assume, since Ms. Dulla is merely a reporter, that she only dutifully reported what she was given to report. So the question now is: WHO GAVE IT TO HER? 

The buck has to stop at the Archbishop. Nothing can be printed in the U Matuna, and certainly no announcement of that magnitude could be made without his direct consent. However, we already know that when it comes to the Neocatechumenal Way, the Archbishop is not the Archbishop, but merely one of "the brothers". 

So while he still will technically be held accountable - and we hope he will print a retraction and an apology, including a personal apology to Cardinal Tagle for the abuse of his name - we know that in reality even the Archbishop was being just as "dutiful" as Ms. Dulla. 

Since the Archbishop is not likely to apologize nor reveal the origin of the lie, for now, we will have to hold Ms. Dulla and the editorial staff of the U Matuna responsible...since that is probably what the Archbishop himself will do. And no worries folks, they will dutifully take the fall. 


P.S. Apparently some Catholics in Manila are taking offense to the headline:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "DELETE!":  
Concerning the headline. The youth of Manila do not need to be evangelized by Guam. We are a strong catholic country with many programs of education for youth. Our families are catholic where the faith is strong. So the headline is not even true. Then to state the cardinal invited kiko. Don't t believe so. 

36 comments:

  1. I am sure everyone knows that Ms. Dulla, the reporter, is a NEOCAT. The editor, Mr. Tony Diaz. is extremely capable, but he will do what his bosses want(the 4 musketeers) and since they are all devout neocats, Mr. Diaz knows better than to question any that involves the neo way. At the very least, there should have been some independent corroboration that the esteem Cardinal Tagle made the invitation. Apparently, there was none. They just probably received word from the NEOCAT POWERS that Cardibal Tagle issued the invitation and took it as the Gospel Truth. Every publisher, editor, and reporter knows that before you quote someone based on information from an indirect source without any direct corroborating evidence, you contact the person being quoted. This reporting is not only a massive blunder but is deceptive. Why? Because it gives the perception that the esteem Cardinal Tagle needs the services of Kiko and other non-Filipinos to stir up vocations in the PI. Oh my, vocations in the PI are flourishing on their own without the help of any outsider. In fact, if Kiko wants his 20,000 priests for China, he should ask Cardinal Tagle to lend him his Filipino army of priests! It is also deceptive because it gives our neocat youths in Guam the impression that a Cardinal as esteem as Tagle will lend his prestige and credibility to the NCW. It is tragic and sad how the NCW leaders in Guam are taking advantage of the youth in the NCW.

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    1. The U Matuna is not a "real" paper. There is no independent reporting. It is simply the mouthpiece of the Archdiocese. The "reporters" simply do as they are told.

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  2. Dear Mr. Rohr:

    If heads do not roll at the Chancery because of this lie, then the Church in Guam will indeed have to suffer another 6 years of insufferable, incompetent, and dastardly leadership until Apuron reaches the mandatory retirement age.

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  3. This is bad because I know of Neo youths and their parents who were convinced to go by the Neo Leaders because of the invitation and presence of Cardina Tagle. When is all this lying going to end?

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  4. Cardinal Tagle does not need Kiko and the NCW. Kiko and the NCW need Cardinal Tagle.

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  5. My Goodness. I hope Archbishop Apuron apologizes to Cardinal Tagle. This is so embarrassing and humiliating for Guam.

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  6. Cardinal tagle is a highly respected and greatly loved archbishop of Manila. He will deal with this situation with his charm and intelligence. He is a true churchman so will not even comment in public. However, the question asked is why would the Archbishop of Guam inform the catholic church through media, that one of the best loved cardinals of the catholic world, had invited anyone to the archdiocese of Manila. This is not true.

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  7. This is not only embarrassing to the archdiocese of Agana Guam. The article now confirms that archbishop Anthony Apuron of Guam is very economical with the truth. The concern is if the archbishop of Guam has reported false statements from cardinal tagle then what else in Guam is also untrue of what he is doing. Serious questions need to be asked about the archbishops capacity to lead the archdiocese.

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  8. Parents of the youth of Guam. You have all been duped by the archbishop. Sure the cardinal will greet your children with great respect. But please ask yourself why would the archbishop of Guam knowingly publish something in his newspaper which is false. Just a question for thought.

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  9. Archbishop Apuron is not known for his respect of Filipino priests. This is very well known among Filipino priests and was confirmed on this web page by a Guam priest last week. It is well known among Filipino clergy. However, as the archbishop can now have personal gain from the Filipinos, he uses a situation for his personal gain. This is how he operates.

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  10. What a lie . The Guam archbishop should be ashamed. No shame on him at all. Priest of Manila.

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  11. This is just another example of the Archbishop trying to deceive the Catholic faithful and have them accept what he says without question simply because he is the "Archbishop of Guam." Remember him telling the people in the Umatuna at the start of the Archdioesce Annual Appeal that there are two seminaries, the RMS and the second seminary at the former monestary in Malojloj? Well, that was an all ourtright lie because there really isn't two seminaries. Now we have an attempt to cover up the lie about the NCW community being invited to the Philippines by the esteem Cardinal Tagle. As time goes on, it is clear that Archbishop's credibility is significantly diminishing and eroding along with his status and position as the Spiritual Leader of the Catholic Church on Guam. The Archbishop really needs the prayers of the faithful to get him back on the path of truth and honesty. Will that happen? We'll see, only time will tell.

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    1. Whaaat, not two seminaries. What about the big spread in the U Matuna????

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  12. This is a mega embarassment for Guam Catholics! How this angers us all!

    The kikos and the hierarchy at the Chancery had better not pass the blame on about this mess of their lies to the Umatuna staff -- the staff had to have been given the information because for sure, the staff do not have direct contact with Cardinal Tagle nor his office! The NCW, caught again in just another one of their many lies!

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  13. Unless Rome intervenes, nothing will change with regard to Apuron and his leadership. Things will continue to go on as is and all the blogging that takes place will have little or no effect. If you ask the average person if he or she is aware of what is going on within the Church as written in Jungle Watch, most would claim ignorance or know very little. Jungle Watch needs broader exposure in the media.

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  14. Crime does not pay! Eventually it will be discovered. Lying is not only a crime, but a sin! This is not a “little white lie” but a major one committed and then publicized IN A CATHOLIC NEWSPAPER, at that which goes out to all the Catholic parishes on Guam! With the lie being publicized it also forced the involvement of others -- the Umatuna staff -- to participate in the lie; the fact of the matter as well, the staff of the Umatuna do not have direct access nor direct contact with Cardinal Tagle or his office!

    This crime and sin does not stop there either, because of the fabricated information, it falsely misled and convinced numerous families not only to participate but to incur a financial expense to participate based on the draw and the claim of an invitation from non-other than Cardinal Tagle, himself -- and how the event was promoted!

    This is simply a huge slanderous act committed at the highest level of our Catholic Diocese -- from our Archbishop, where the buck stops!!!! Do you know what is extremely sad about this mess, Catholic Faithful? ... it’s the fact that the ncw hierarchy gets away with it because they have the Archbishop around their fingers; but this does not make the Archbishop an innocent victim in all this, either!

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  15. Maybe the NCW figured that since Kiko and his Eminence Cardinal "Chito" Tagle are both in the Pontifical Council of the Laity, the two are bosom buddies!

    His Eminence Cardinal "Chito" Tagle has his own charismatic way of telling the Catholic faithful the importance of missions and community. The Filipino people know how to reach out to the People through the various Catholic organizations who use the internet. There they post happenings within their parishes. They post the reflections of the 1st and 2nd readings plus the Gospel by His Eminence Cardinal Tagle. These Catholic organizations go out of their way to post on the lives of the saints for the day ( just as Pale' Eric Forbes does).

    What do we have? We have a site on the web under the Archdiocese of Agana with nothing of interest posted. Maybe the parishes can go into the website of other parishes and get an idea of what makes a parish website interesting. Any and all catholic organizations can do the same.

    I do not know who runs the Catholic Radio channel, but this channel is also boring! It seems that the only songs I hear is the Bishop singing the national anthem in the morning. Listen to the Harvest Christian Channel on 88.9 and take a lesson from there. The Catholic Radio Station seems to be a repetitive broadcast from past events. Nothing new, nothing interesting !

    I love the Catholic Church. I believe that the Catholic Church is the COMMUNITY as a WHOLE.

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    1. Having worked at the radio station myself awhile back, I can tell you that the Archbishop sees to it that his own songs are featured on a regular basis. The programmer has no say. It's the Archbishop's stations. Given the lack of freedom to make it a real station, the programmer does his best to fit in helpful programs such as Catholic Answers Live and several programs from EWTN. But the station has never had more than one purpose from the beginning: to play the Archbishop's songs.

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    2. Tim is correct.
      However, referring to Anon's comparison of the catholic station (KOLG) to the Harvest Station, KOLG is not funded by any outside sources, not even the Archdiocese. It's a ministry of Kamalen Karidat and only funded through donations through there. Harvest, on the other hand, may have a larger funding source through its mega churches in the states.
      If you donate to KOLG, you may have programming influence.

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    3. I doubt it. The radio station has always existed for everyone to hear the Archbishop sing, especially himself. I have hard verification of this as well as several years of experience. Everything else is just filler. There was never any other vision for the station.

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    4. But on second thought. You are correct about one thing. Sponsorship does buy influence. A few years ago I started to speak about the pro-abortion advocacy of Lou Leon Guerrero, an advocacy that she is proud of and actually famous for due to her leadership in advocating for the overthrow of Guam's 1990 anti-abortion law. Google it. While speaking about it, the Deacon in charge of the radio station started waving at me not to talk about it. At the break he took me aside and told me I couldn't talk about such things on the radio. At the time, Bank of Guam was a major sponsor. I stopped having anything to do with the station and started The Esperansa Project.

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    5. Arch has such a large ego that he lives in the clouds he has no reality anymore. He thinks only of himself. He want our money that is all. Sad.

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    6. I am publishing the above comment to make my own comment that the strength of this blog is, at least in my posts, has been evidence and not just personal bashing. I've allowed people to express their frustrations on a personal level but it's time we put some substance to the comments. Try. Or else you'll probably not see these types of comments in the future.

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  16. My correction: this mess is not "slanderous", but scandalous; a major one, when you consider the number of individuals unknowingly (or even knowingly) pulled in to commit or participate in this scandalous lie.

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  17. The NEO from Guam are headed to the PI to evangelize the Filipino people. Is that laughable or what? The PI where Masses are overflowing, where the poor are rich in spirit, where there is a chapel in most shopping malls, where the suffering are consoled, where marriage is protected, where families are encouraged, where Masses are held in offices during Lent because Churches cannot satisfy the demand, where abortion is still illegal, where vocations are flourishing, where commerce shuts down during Holy Week, and where her people are loving, open, caring, and hospitable. We are spending all that money to do that? Huh? Actually, they are not going to evangelize, but to pay homage to their prophet and king, Kiko, under the ruse that Cardinal Tagle invited Kiko and us. The strategy was working until Tim flushed them out.

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  18. Gee, the NCW are pretty quiet today... what da matter? no rebuttal?
    Archbishop? Vicar? Chancellor? Ms. Dulla? Diana?
    The reality is that the NCW have been there awhile without much "fruit"
    The Catholic church of the Philippines has so many vocations they have no need for permanent Deacons.
    Sad to see we cannot even trust our catholic newspaper. Tony Diaz suggest you get out now!

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    1. Catholic media Guam appears to have no concept of truth. It does seem catholic radio is enforced to play archbishop and the press to only support NCW. In reality it amounts to one man expressing his views in all forms of media. Or this one one allowing himself to be used by the NCW. It is i a very unhealthy church beginning to be revealed to readers.

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    2. I am publishing the above to make the comment that I will not allow any more bashing of KOLG. While it is controlled by the Archbishop and Deacon Tenorio, the man who works there does his best to make it as educational and helpful as possible. He is also not Neo.

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  19. Some food for thoughts. While this grossly inept maneuver by brother Tony and his henchmen is
    as vile and despicable as it gets, there might be more to it, that the usual kikoesque habit for publicity by elbow rubbing. Cardinal Tagle is a huge stumbling block on the road of Kiko and the Ncw, as such he is walking target for rumors and worse. This would not be the first time either. Maybe just maybe we just lifted a small part of another and bigger veil.

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  20. Concern is if Archbishop lies about something as simple as an invitation what other lies has he told. Serious question. Much more serious matters may well arise as we now focus this blog on the Philippines.

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  21. Here on Guam the archbishop is apart of the NCW.. In the PI it's the Capuchins that are very involved in the WAY. I know of one capuchin priest from the Philippines that came to Guam last year to cover for his capuchin brothers in the parishes. Fr. Roberto. He's a good priest that stayed in the friary on Guam during his duration here. He was well educated in the NCW and said that he has a community in his parish. He also mentioned that he was more close to the communities at the RSM then the friary except for some few capuchin brothers. He also said that this was his last time coming to Guam to cover because the capuchin brothers here didn't know he was apart of the NCW in PI. He also mentioned to me that the capuchin brothers here are great with some brothers that show negativity towards him being apart of the NCW. I pray for unity for the priests of PI and Guam.

    Junior Camacho, Sinajana

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    1. Fr. Roberto? Your reply?

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    2. Has anyone heard of this Fr. Roberto? Perhaps he does not walk regularly as a Capuchin anymore in the same manner as Fr. Pius does not regularly walk with his Carmelite Order. They are now itinerants for the NCW although they still retain their status with their order. At any rate, it would be nice to hear from him.

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  22. I am a brother of the NCW, but inactive and not attending any of their activities anymore. About Cardinal Tagle, he was one of those cardinals eyed by the college of cardinals as a candidate for being a pope. This information about Cardinal Tagle denying the fact that he invited Kiko and company to catechize in the Philippines is totally embarrassing. There are NCW communities in the Philippines. Around 6,000+ all over the country. They've been there since the 1980's. We have several Filipino priests here on Guam who were ordained and attended the Redemptoris Mater Seminary here on Guam. The NCW in the Philippines is not really very known. El Shaddai is still the top Catholic group in the Philippines. Couples for Christ is another one. These groups very much overshadows the NCW in the Philippines. Frankly speaking, Filipinos DO NOT NEED the NCW! They already have the tools that can uplift them spiritually. They conduct 3 day retreats for choirs in the Philippines. They do not check in in any hotel. They find places in the province or within a very quiet and serene location in Manila to conduct retreats. When I was in the choir in Quezon City, we prayed the rosary every Wednesday evening. During 3:00 PM, the Divine Mercy prayer is heard on all radio stations in the Philippines, both AM and FM. The NCW needs to go to Europe where Christianity is slowly disappearing.

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    1. I agree, like Spain and Italy.

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