Thursday, July 3, 2014

PACIFIC DAILY NEWS - JULY 3, 2014

Church finances questioned: Group wants annual audit of archdiocese


Guam's Catholic Church leadership is being challenged to disclose its finances, as other Catholic churches in the United States have done.


My NOTE: It says that the Chancery will respond today. Wondering what response they could give other than "yes". They will probably say though that this archdiocese is not apart of the U.S. conference and doesn't have to subscribe to its policies. That would be a pretty poor excuse. Dioceses worldwide, including the Vatican  - which is trying to clean up its scandals - are promoting not just transparency, but STEWARDSHIP of the gifts received from the people. Why this archdiocese thinks it doesn't have to do this is just another example of what we have sadly become used to: silence and arrogance.  

P.S. I've already heard that they are trying to "blame" this on me. Really?

Also: The article says that this blog is about church issues. However, while church issues have come to dominate the discussion here, the blog "watches" many issues in the "jungle". 

58 comments:

  1. I hope the Chancery doesn't use that lame excuse that we are not under the USCCB. When it suits them, they quote the USCCB left and right. One case I can reference: Sr. Marian Arroyo told our parish after the Pongsonga that we had to move our altar closer to the people because of new regulatuons in the USCCB about worship space.

    We may not physically be in proximity to the U.S. but we sure as heck follow a lot of their rules and regs, so let's have some consistency and follow the financial reporting practices as well.

    Even if the Chancery will not report, I hope the individual parishes will show their parishioners how they are being good stewards with their finances. I will request this from my pastor as well.

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    1. If they do choose to hide behind the CEPAC thing, that would be even more damning. Archbishop Apuron has been the president of that conference for several years. The question for the press would be: Where is your transparency policy? Apuron would thus be held responsible both for the lack of transparency in this diocese and for the conference as a whole. Much worse.

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    2. Wouldn't hurt ...they, usccb, have a lot more resources than Cepac. i.e. Tagle mentioned that the scandal of abuse in Asia has yet to be revealed. Tip of iceberg.

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    3. Archbishop has contributed to scandal covered archdiocese. But let the truth unfold.

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  2. Archbishop plays the us bishops card and the pacific bishops card. Remember in the early years of his life as archbishop Apuron he only wanted to be associated with us bishops. When he noticed they were not promoting him as chairman to any group he changed to identify more with the pacific bishops. But now he does not really care about either conferences as he is empowered by neo. Watch out the archbishop will twist anything will lie, to get out of this one.

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    1. @10:25 am exactly correct. He did not find his place in usccb. When he went later as observer, they wanted to know what he was doing there. He did not go back. Very knowing and correct comment.

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    2. 11.44am. Many years I was an insider. He threw me out . I know the truth.

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    3. 10.25am. Please contact the chancery identify yourself as Vincent.

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    4. Don't need money I need justice.

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    5. It really no longer matters to us, concerned Catholics, whether our Archdiocese falls under any rules or polices that require or do not require our Church to comply with financial reporting; rather at this point and time, we Catholics, are simply and plainly requesting Archbishop Apuron to publicly present a financial report and statement on an annual basis for financial transparency.

      It is not out of the Archbishop’s need to comply with any sort of civil regulation nor of a Church ruling that concerned Catholics are posing this request to the Archbishop; rather it is the matter of the Archbishop’s simple moral and ethical responsibility; the matter of Christian decency and it is the matter of his plain consideration and regard for the Catholic congregation of this Archdiocese -- the families, individuals, youth, young adults, ministry and apostolate group members, the businesses and community members -- who have contributed and made numerous sacrifices to be able to financially support, donate toward and sustain OUR CATHOLIC CHURCH on Guam because we love our Catholic Faith and Church!

      To refuse this request and to resort to ANY excuse, or reason not to address and grant our request for an annual financial report and statement would be an outright arrogant disregard for and an affront to the Catholic congregation of our island of Guam.

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  3. How true 10.25am

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  4. Observe the feedback to the request for financials. Archbishop needs to respond to the concern today.

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    1. Scrambling at the chancery to find a new way to remain silent. Hey, Princess Diana, what's up?

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  5. Archbishop Krebs, are you busy today?

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  6. Serious concerns regarding the internal financial management and practices

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  7. Particular data is required on all archdiocesan loans to the Bank of Guam. Point of interest .

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    1. Of course it is. The Bank of Guam will not give 500.00 loan without the story, so to speak. What happened to the original loan for Yona, was it cancelled? 2 mil.

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  8. Data regarding the archbishops private fund is required. Who exactly was paid? For what reason would he give substantial payments for. Questions we intend to find answers.

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    1. Uh,oh. For what reason? Smells like more than accounting problem.

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    2. A lot of CASH USD in the cassock pocket. That's called pocket money. Cash, baby.

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    3. Cash payments . Archbishop has been paying cash payments . We want to know why anyone would be paid cash by the archbishop . For what purpose.

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    4. Personal cash gifts.....to His Excellency.

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    5. Envelopes containing thousands in cash are passed from him to others. Also cash given to him amounting to thousands.

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    6. Cash baby, cold cash.

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    7. He gave envelope gift cash ten thousand USD. To a former altar boy.

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    8. He has a friend who gives him envelopes like that....easy come, easy go. Hope the ten thousand took. care of business.

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    9. 10,00.00 usd standard envelope. AT LEAST. HOW COME TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS TO COME OUT IN THE OPEN?

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    10. Ten thousand USD that is change . Daily spending money to our archbishop.

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    11. Because archbishop has pissed people off they are talking holding meetings. Best to publish the audit . It may soften a few hearts towards him. Right now people are pissed by his lies.

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    12. Where does archbishop get his cash?

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    13. Only ten thousand USD. What is the problem.

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    14. What's the problem? No problem....yet.

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  9. Chancery is in disorder moral and financial.

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  10. Lord have mercy pray for our island home.

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  11. Well, it seems Diana, who is a woman, not a man and not a priest must be busy with work and stuff....no action on her site ...must be Very BUSY where you work, Diana. Diaaaaana, where are you?

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    1. "She" is at the chancery for a meeting...concocting the latest damage control, most of which is "her" doing to begin with.

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    2. Right on, Tim.

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  12. Tim is sosooooooo right. Today is damage control. Some ugly things have surfaced again which cooled down in 2010. Involves Guam and cnmi.

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  13. Sad thing is Heshe caused the problem. Men were ready to maintain silence to protect the church. But not now its attack mode. Prepare for war.

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  14. Exciting to see that PDN published address for JW

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  15. per the news update on pdn, archbishop to concerned catholics, "let's meet." really?! REALLY?! why? why does the leader of our catholic church on guam (who is also the neo leader on guam) require a face to face meeting instead of complete transparency and the reporting of information that other dioceses report? the transparency of the archbishop is akin to that of duct tape. “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” Barack Obama I have STOPPED donating to AAA and i will soon take all my tithing funds and give it to the St. Fidelis Friary.

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    1. Give money to the friary or the Jesuits do not give to the archbishop he wastes money on himself.

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  16. Jennifer Dulles reports on Pilgrimage to Manila. Took a while. Big Focus on Fr. Jason. June 29 report. With all the focus on FINANCEalmost forgot about Tagle debacle. Of course, that was nothin ....

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  17. Someone has gone forward to the Vatican concerning archbishop and a situation in year 2000 involving abuse.

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  18. Pdn get ready serious news coming .

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  19. July fourth FIREWORKS!!! Ba ba BOOOM!

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    1. July 4 fire works began today in chancery. Damage control still going on. Chancery praying it blows over during holiday.

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    2. Every catholic needs to now question this seminary. Does Guam need to pay for this.

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    3. Tony is rich he has his own money. What is the problem with an envelope with ten thousand USD inside.

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    4. @ 9:16,

      Obviously you are part of the Neos benefiting from having the Archbishops favor. He will lie, cheat and steal with your leaders...for their profit.

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  20. Shame for what is happening in our archdiocese. Money resources being wasted in this seminary . Please where is the audit .

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  21. Seminary is eating our resources. Why should Guam Catholics pay for this seminary which has no purpose to this archdiocese.

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    1. Anybody notice Pius pulled the plug on the seminary computers? Or are they on VACAY? Sort of miss them defending the WAY THE BEST THEY COULD, ACCORDING TO THEIR ABILITIES AS SUMMA GRADUATES.

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    2. How many parishes are benefiting our RMS graduates today?

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  22. Pius is sucking our money get rid of him.

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  23. Agree get rid of pius .

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  24. Possible that archbishop allows pius to run his show so the archbishop makes personal money from the neo. All the neo really need to a bishop to support their work. For all we know Apuron may not like what is happening on Guam but allows it for the personal money he gains from the neo.

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