Amen. We are not doing justice with the gifts we have been given!! Especially the gift of Yona given to the people of God in Guam. Archbishop, why did you do such injustice to our poor, young, sick, why...just tell us why.
The use of the word, persecution, by these smug, cuddled and privileged individuals makes me physically ill. If you want true persecution and not the ala NCW-type, but real persecution, you only need to watch what ISIS is doing in Iraq and Syria, and just see what happened on this past Sunday, 18 January at about 4:30pm in the afternoon, Pastor Nguyễn Hồng Quang and his associate Pastor were attacked in Vietnam and lay in a hospital trying to recover from serious injuries. How, pray tell, are the NCW "persecuted"? By exposure? By uncomfortable truths that slightly break through their denial of reality of their cult? Pray tell, what persecution?
To quash criticism from within "the Way" and from the outside, the NCW hammers home two ideas into its members:
1) "Judge not!" - The NCW misinterprets Jesus's command in Matthew 7 in order to eliminate criticism from within the movement. click here to read more.
2) "We're being persecuted!" - The development of the NCW persecution complex in the life of a new member starts as early as the 4th night of the initial catechesis. This persecution complex serves two purposes: a) it allows all criticism from the outside to be deemed to be persecution, and b) it impels members to turn to each other for the moral support that they'd normally get from their families and outside friends. click here to read more.
Chuck, I thank you again, I was the one in the Neo Plug stream to talk about the sewer analogy, "..you must go down into the sewers...."blah blah blah. Again, I can't thank you enough for posting the references to affirm and support those areas of our practice that are being corrupted, or at the very least (I am being polite) their prevarications of their perverted practices origins.
Chuck, a system, culture, or a methodology, ( not sure what to call it) that operates on this persecution complex sounds not only unhealthy but really sick. Who in 2015 operates this kind of a system built on fear and using emotional weakness of members. Sounds really evil to me. Playing with minds and emotions to gain power control over people. Sick beyond words and allowed to happen in the name of the catholic church. Disturbing.
At the very start There were whispers in the dark And for all the world to see There was witchcraft at its heart And on the autumn air The scent of bonfires everywhere And a fell wind stirred the leaves...
The persecution song
Telltale signs of possession Little Miss Demeanour in the demons bed Gasps she just could not suppress After lights-out midst the dead And a past on which sin cast its darts of wickedness
Time was running faster for disaster Strange nights were burning In the furnace of her dreams A name was uttered, Lilith Mistress, playmate, master Such sights were stolen in the throes of ecstasy
And in the thick of all In the Black Goddess's thrall With the wood unseen for trees Victoria stood tall Promiscuous in step The Devil breathing down her neck As jealous zealots stitched apiece...
The persecution song
Telltale signs of possession Fickle Miss Demeanour hissed and disappeared To her Sisters of the cloth She now reeked of Astaroth Again the curse had surfaced Sneaking back the pagan years
Weaving webs of great revealing Hidden in the convent An evil libido abided, undone Breathing, deceiving Feasting on her deviant feelings She'd clung to her crucifix Once her torturers begun
Her screams came quick The miserichord Den to vice and screw That had reddened many tongues Wrung symphonies Of suffering from her
Many moons hardened pure hearts Those plagued by her black arts Their rooms secreting phantom orgies Vile rites and rifled graves
Mere hours, now towered Above this bent and beaten flower Her naked body privy to The Abbess and her ways
Victoria fought No guilt was wrought Just a torrid retort of blasphemies Nails and crosses vomited forth From this pretty little whore now arched like Hell
Arched like Hell
At the very start There were whispers in the dark And for all the world to see There was witchcraft at its heart But then the end grew nigh A dirge inferno filled the sky In its customary key...
The persecution song
Telltale signs of obsession No wailing banshee would dishonour their name Nuns dragged her to the blasted oak Storm-clouds threatened holy smoke They hanged her there like Judas With the Hellcat in her reined
Time was running faster for disaster Exorcism, torture, gallows Now a shallow grave A name was stuttered, Isaac Tongue-tied, simple, bastard They made him dig the pit Mindless of what it claimed
Pictures were taken of Guam people homeless showing how poverty increased on Guam and yet Archbishop did nothing for the poor. In fact used money intended for poor people for rms and self. The poor lay on the streets homeless and Apuron gives a multi million property to a cult. Francis knows and soon so will the world.
Diana admitted that neo things are like Hollywoodian movies. Lol!
---------------------------------------------- Diana January 22, 2015 at 12:20 PM
If someone already told you about a good movie and you went to see it, you already know what to expect and the surprise is lost. But when someone told you to go see a great movie, but won't reveal anything about it, and simply said, "You just have to see it. It's really good." When the person sees the movie, he becomes surprise and then goes off to tell the other person how great the movie was, and he just have to see it. That is how the Catechesis works. -----------------------------------------
Simply, this is how Kiko-catechism works! Goodness...! Just look at their strange practices. They turn church life into episodes of a never ending Hollywoodian soap opera. They stole their immersion baptism from the Protestant Baptists. They turn it into a spectacle by holding the little naked baby high up like a puppy in triumphant procession. Lol! These kids will watch these videos as adults one day. They will ask what the hell their parents were doing at their baptism. Gosh!
The same goes with their open space Hollywoodian confessionals when anyone can hear the ugly sins of all others. It is just show, a spectacle to attract the weak and feeble minded. They tie them up into an addictive submission of their silly Hollywoodian ideology.
Just look at their - monitions - echo-reflections - guitar performances - kissing sessions - insane dancing, etc. during official mass.
These are just another Hollywoodian tricks to entice the naive. These poor folks enjoy their "mass" because they are allowed to behave like Hollywoodian actors and actresses. They are allowed to disrupt the Sunday service. But these performances inserted into sacred liturgy corrupt their sense of right and wrong and their adherence to decent doctrines. Then they become mindless Hollywoodian puppets of the cult.
------------------------------------------- Antoine Tajalle January 22, 2015 at 3:15 AM
I am guessing that this is why you find it hard to believe in modern day angels and prophets. When an anonymous person pays your power bill? What do you call this person? When someone has all the right words and seems to make sense of all that is happening to you? What do you call this person? An Angel? A prophet? Of course not in the exact context of the bible, but to do so in terms of modern day experience, would not go against catholic theology. --------------------------------------------------
So an angel or prophet in the "terms of modern day experience" can be anyone... This is devious and heretic. How far these suspect theological innovations will go on? How much more indecency until it is enough? Looks like neos encourage free improvisation about church teaching. Typical liberal tactics. Once this genie is out of the bottle Catholicism as we know it is over. Good job in exposing his cult. Thanks, Antoine. ;(
Has Sue/Diana been walking the way for 7/8 years as mentioned in the past? Or did she lie about that too? And that's another thing I know about neos, they seldom ever tell the truth. From aaa, VG, on down. They create ideas in how they would like things to go and brainwash the other members. How sad. That's all they know, even at the risk of division in their families. I know too many neos whose relationship with their families are painfully strained, so heartbreaking. Now neos only turn to each other and have strayed away from theur normal family functions, no longer having love and closeness they once had with their families. I wonder if they ever miss their old ways.
Earlier tonight, a couple of ladies came by my place and gave me an invitation me to attend the neo catechises at St. Anthony Church. They said they were sent by the pastor Monsignor Bibi to come and listen about the bible. They mentioned that they found Jesus Christ in the catechises.
And where was Jesus Christ before they found him? When they attended Mass, who were they receiving (body, blood, soul, and divinity)? Who is before them in the tabernacle?
Hey that Father Bibi is like his singing sister. Fence-sitters. Pick a side Father, Monsignor whatever your title is and stay on it. You can't play both sides here. Same goes for Sister Mirian. Weak.
Agreed, 1:54 am. If Msgr. BiBi and little Sister Marian want to be leaders we have to know their position. This goes for BOTH of you. Spineless, or not. let us know soon please.
Amen. We are not doing justice with the gifts we have been given!! Especially the gift of Yona given to the people of God in Guam. Archbishop, why did you do such injustice to our poor, young, sick, why...just tell us why.
ReplyDeleteTim these people are not from Guam, stop caring about these "foreigners" and concentrate only on those who live on Guam.
ReplyDeleteDeacon Gus Cepeda is not from Guam?
DeleteThe "presenters" that hijacked the Mass to "invite us to joy" were foreigners? They looked pretty damn local to me...
DeleteThe use of the word, persecution, by these smug, cuddled and privileged individuals makes me physically ill. If you want true persecution and not the ala NCW-type, but real persecution, you only need to watch what ISIS is doing in Iraq and Syria, and just see what happened on this past Sunday, 18 January at about 4:30pm in the afternoon, Pastor Nguyễn Hồng Quang and his associate Pastor were attacked in Vietnam and lay in a hospital trying to recover from serious injuries. How, pray tell, are the NCW "persecuted"? By exposure? By uncomfortable truths that slightly break through their denial of reality of their cult? Pray tell, what persecution?
ReplyDeleteTo quash criticism from within "the Way" and from the outside, the NCW hammers home two ideas into its members:
Delete1) "Judge not!" - The NCW misinterprets Jesus's command in Matthew 7 in order to eliminate criticism from within the movement. click here to read more.
2) "We're being persecuted!" - The development of the NCW persecution complex in the life of a new member starts as early as the 4th night of the initial catechesis. This persecution complex serves two purposes: a) it allows all criticism from the outside to be deemed to be persecution, and b) it impels members to turn to each other for the moral support that they'd normally get from their families and outside friends. click here to read more.
Chuck, I thank you again, I was the one in the Neo Plug stream to talk about the sewer analogy, "..you must go down into the sewers...."blah blah blah. Again, I can't thank you enough for posting the references to affirm and support those areas of our practice that are being corrupted, or at the very least (I am being polite) their prevarications of their perverted practices origins.
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DeleteChuck, a system, culture, or a methodology, ( not sure what to call it) that operates on this persecution complex sounds not only unhealthy but really sick. Who in 2015 operates this kind of a system built on fear and using emotional weakness of members. Sounds really evil to me. Playing with minds and emotions to gain power control over people. Sick beyond words and allowed to happen in the name of the catholic church. Disturbing.
"The Persecution Song"
DeleteAt the very start
There were whispers in the dark
And for all the world to see
There was witchcraft at its heart
And on the autumn air
The scent of bonfires everywhere
And a fell wind stirred the leaves...
The persecution song
Telltale signs of possession
Little Miss Demeanour in the demons bed
Gasps she just could not suppress
After lights-out midst the dead
And a past on which sin cast its darts of wickedness
Time was running faster for disaster
Strange nights were burning
In the furnace of her dreams
A name was uttered, Lilith
Mistress, playmate, master
Such sights were stolen in the throes of ecstasy
And in the thick of all
In the Black Goddess's thrall
With the wood unseen for trees
Victoria stood tall
Promiscuous in step
The Devil breathing down her neck
As jealous zealots stitched apiece...
The persecution song
Telltale signs of possession
Fickle Miss Demeanour hissed and disappeared
To her Sisters of the cloth
She now reeked of Astaroth
Again the curse had surfaced
Sneaking back the pagan years
Weaving webs of great revealing
Hidden in the convent
An evil libido abided, undone
Breathing, deceiving
Feasting on her deviant feelings
She'd clung to her crucifix
Once her torturers begun
Her screams came quick
The miserichord
Den to vice and screw
That had reddened many tongues
Wrung symphonies
Of suffering from her
Many moons hardened pure hearts
Those plagued by her black arts
Their rooms secreting phantom orgies
Vile rites and rifled graves
Mere hours, now towered
Above this bent and beaten flower
Her naked body privy to
The Abbess and her ways
Victoria fought
No guilt was wrought
Just a torrid retort of blasphemies
Nails and crosses vomited forth
From this pretty little whore now arched like Hell
Arched like Hell
At the very start
There were whispers in the dark
And for all the world to see
There was witchcraft at its heart
But then the end grew nigh
A dirge inferno filled the sky
In its customary key...
The persecution song
Telltale signs of obsession
No wailing banshee would dishonour their name
Nuns dragged her to the blasted oak
Storm-clouds threatened holy smoke
They hanged her there like Judas
With the Hellcat in her reined
Time was running faster for disaster
Exorcism, torture, gallows
Now a shallow grave
A name was stuttered, Isaac
Tongue-tied, simple, bastard
They made him dig the pit
Mindless of what it claimed
ReplyDeletePictures were taken of Guam people homeless showing how poverty increased on Guam and yet Archbishop did nothing for the poor. In fact used money intended for poor people for rms and self. The poor lay on the streets homeless and Apuron gives a multi million property to a cult. Francis knows and soon so will the world.
Diana admitted that neo things are like Hollywoodian movies. Lol!
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Diana January 22, 2015 at 12:20 PM
If someone already told you about a good movie and you went to see it, you already know what to expect and the surprise is lost. But when someone told you to go see a great movie, but won't reveal anything about it, and simply said, "You just have to see it. It's really good." When the person sees the movie, he becomes surprise and then goes off to tell the other person how great the movie was, and he just have to see it. That is how the Catechesis works.
-----------------------------------------
Simply, this is how Kiko-catechism works! Goodness...! Just look at their strange practices. They turn church life into episodes of a never ending Hollywoodian soap opera. They stole their immersion baptism from the Protestant Baptists. They turn it into a spectacle by holding the little naked baby high up like a puppy in triumphant procession. Lol! These kids will watch these videos as adults one day. They will ask what the hell their parents were doing at their baptism. Gosh!
The same goes with their open space Hollywoodian confessionals when anyone can hear the ugly sins of all others. It is just show, a spectacle to attract the weak and feeble minded. They tie them up into an addictive submission of their silly Hollywoodian ideology.
Just look at their
- monitions
- echo-reflections
- guitar performances
- kissing sessions
- insane dancing, etc.
during official mass.
These are just another Hollywoodian tricks to entice the naive. These poor folks enjoy their "mass" because they are allowed to behave like Hollywoodian actors and actresses. They are allowed to disrupt the Sunday service. But these performances inserted into sacred liturgy corrupt their sense of right and wrong and their adherence to decent doctrines. Then they become mindless Hollywoodian puppets of the cult.
Thank God this is not how Jesus catechized.
DeleteMore neo funsies from Diana's blog:
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Antoine Tajalle January 22, 2015 at 3:15 AM
I am guessing that this is why you find it hard to believe in modern day angels and prophets. When an anonymous person pays your power bill? What do you call this person? When someone has all the right words and seems to make sense of all that is happening to you? What do you call this person? An Angel? A prophet? Of course not in the exact context of the bible, but to do so in terms of modern day experience, would not go against catholic theology.
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So an angel or prophet in the "terms of modern day experience" can be anyone... This is devious and heretic. How far these suspect theological innovations will go on? How much more indecency until it is enough? Looks like neos encourage free improvisation about church teaching. Typical liberal tactics. Once this genie is out of the bottle Catholicism as we know it is over. Good job in exposing his cult. Thanks, Antoine. ;(
Diana's real name, or at least the Diana that wrote this comment, is Sue.
DeleteSue the finance officer at RMS ? The one from Malaysia?
DeleteHas Sue/Diana been walking the way for 7/8 years as mentioned in the past? Or did she lie about that too? And that's another thing I know about neos, they seldom ever tell the truth. From aaa, VG, on down. They create ideas in how they would like things to go and brainwash the other members. How sad. That's all they know, even at the risk of division in their families. I know too many neos whose relationship with their families are painfully strained, so heartbreaking. Now neos only turn to each other and have strayed away from theur normal family functions, no longer having love and closeness they once had with their families. I wonder if they ever miss their old ways.
DeleteEarlier tonight, a couple of ladies came by my place and gave me an invitation me to attend the neo catechises at St. Anthony Church. They said they were sent by the pastor Monsignor Bibi to come and listen about the bible. They mentioned that they found Jesus Christ in the catechises.
ReplyDeleteWaiting for them to come knocking at my door!
Delete"they found Jesus Christ in the catechises" ....
DeleteAnd where was Jesus Christ before they found him? When they attended Mass, who were they receiving (body, blood, soul, and divinity)? Who is before them in the tabernacle?
Tim, can you email me Sue's last name? I would like to get to know her very well, and, then share of course.
ReplyDeleteHey that Father Bibi is like his singing sister. Fence-sitters. Pick a side Father, Monsignor whatever your title is and stay on it. You can't play both sides here. Same goes for Sister Mirian. Weak.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, 1:54 am. If Msgr. BiBi and little Sister Marian want to be leaders we have to know their position. This goes for BOTH of you. Spineless, or not. let us know soon please.
DeleteMarian did chose...what is good for her and her boss AAA or shall I say Pius, She is going to do anything as long as it benefits her...
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