Saturday, February 28, 2015

IS THE BISHOP GOD'S CHOICE? POPE BENEDICT: "NO"

Pope Formosus
Many are of the opinion that popes, bishops, and priests are chosen by God and are therefore beyond question if not unassailable. 

Not true, said Pope Benedict.

We'll get to the actual comment in a minute. Obviously we are speaking to the situation with our own bishop and the debate as to whether he has to be obeyed unquestioningly. 

Common sense should tell us that no priest or bishop or pope can suddenly decide that lying, cheating, and stealing is okay and oblige us to subscribe to his new teaching. 

Yet that is what some want us to do with Archbishop Apuron. We are told that we have to shut up and obey even though the Archbishop himself has apparently subscribed to a new moral order of lying, cheating, stealing, and character assassination. (Proven and documented beyond question on this blog.)*

Even those who know this about the Archbishop often resign themselves to "What can we do? He's the Archbishop. He's chosen by God."

Well he isn't. The only bishops who were ever chosen by God were the 12 apostles, and even one of those went bad. 

Here's what Pope Benedict said when asked whether the Holy Spirit is responsible for the election of a pope:
I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the Pope. . . . I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit's role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined.
He continued:
There are too many contrary instances of popes the Holy Spirit obviously would not have picked!

The author of the above referenced article goes on to tell us about Benedict IX as an example of pope God certainly would NOT have picked:

If you look at history, certain popes have been real scoundrels, like Pope Benedict IX (first elected in 1032).

He was elected pope when still a boy. His reign was scandalous. He insisted upon monetary compensation in order to get him to resign. And then he didn't stay resigned. He was the only man to ever hold the papacy more than once. (In fact, he may have held it as many as three times.)

Without going into all the scandals attributed to him, the Catholic Encyclopedia states: "He was a disgrace to the Chair of Peter."

Back in March of 2013, while we were awaiting the election of a new pope, I wrote a column entitled "The Strange Trial of the Good Looking Pope" wherein I recounted the "Iron Age of the Papacy" (872-965), a particularly horrible period in church history during which there were no less than 24 popes, seven of whom were assassinated or died under suspicious circumstances:
  • John VIII was bludgeoned to death by his own entourage, 
  • Stephen VI strangled, 
  • Leo V murdered by his successor Sergius III, 
  • John X suffocated, 
  • Stephen VIII horribly mutilated - having had his eyes gouged out and ears, nose, and hands cut off - died of his injuries, 
  • Hadrian III poisoned, and 
  • John XII beaten to death.
The period also included the infamous Cadaver Synod when Stephen VI (or VII - accounts vary) dug up his predecessor, Pope Formosus, dressed what was left of his corpse in papal robes, sat him on the throne, tried him for several alleged crimes, found him guilty, cut off three fingers on the corpse's right hand, and threw him in a ditch. Soon thereafter he was dug up and thrown in the Tiber and was later washed ashore and found by a monk. Enraged by the treatment of the dead pope, the people mobbed the papal palace and strangled Pope Stephen. Wow! Talk about active "participation of the laity!"And still that wasn't the end of it. Read more here.  

There are even more fun accounts of the laity rising up against the irresponsibility of their religious leaders. Read the account about the people of the town of Viterbo tearing the roof off the room which housed the electors of the next pope because they were taking too long! 

And speaking of "active participation of the laity", and since Kiko is bent on taking things back to the early church (or at least his version), then both he and the Archbishop should welcome the idea of going back to the practice in the early church of electing and throwing out bishops by popular acclaim. In fact, until the Lateran Synod of 769, the laity had the right to refuse papal candidates when they were presented to them for their approval or disapproval!

Yes, Kiko, let's bring back the good old days when the people really ran things!

But back to our point. No bishop has a right to mistreat people even if they are guilty. And when he does, we have a responsibility to stand against him. And that is exactly what we are doing. 

Will you?

* While there is no doubt that Archbishop Apuron is lying, stealing, cheating, and assassinating the characters of the priests whose souls are entrusted to his care, I have always allowed for the fact that he doesn't know what he is doing, either because he is mentally ill or because he is an entranced member of Kiko's cult. In any event, if the pilot is compromised, it doesn't matter the reason. The first course of action is to get him out of the driver's seat before the plane goes down. Then get him help. 

24 comments:

  1. TIM ARE YOU GOD ???

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    1. Very seriously doubt Tim is God, But confessor said the same as pope Benedict years before. I believe it may be true in this case. If Archbishop wants any quality of life he needs help abd to be reconciled qith us.

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    2. Actually 5:57, that would be Pius.

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    3. Surprising that Pontus Pius would be asking this question, as he himself plays the part whenever he chastizes NCW responsibles when they do not conform to his desires. Pius are youGod??

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    4. Uh oh. Looks like one flew over the Kikos nest!

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    5. Anon on 2/28 at 5:57 PM, are you off your meds? Stay where you are. Help will be coming shortly once we load up the straight jacket.

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  2. Tim is right. He does not know what he is doing. Did he set out to hurt people? No. He simply was unsuited from day one to be bishop of Guam. This allowed people to take him over. It happened before the arrival of the NCW . Problem just became greater when a more powerful group took over his mind and heart. He saw the NCW as a method to get priests to serve Guam, and be noticed in Rome. He never saw the potential harm it would cause. Just a very sad situation that was allowed to evolve over twenty years.

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    1. Megalomania set in when he became bishop and became more of a megalomaniac when he was elevated to archbishop. As he stands (or sits), he has enjoyed the trappings of being archbishop and has made his personal enrichment primary in his endeavors. Anyone who can prove me wrong on this please speak up now.

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  3. Plane begun descent from 34,000 feet. He is still flying the plane and it will crash. But if we can just ask a co pilot to assist him before the crash we can save a few lives. Is he an entranced member of Kiko's cult or a mental disorder. only the visitors can evaluate this.

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  4. Anon at 5:57 PM, you must be one of the lost souls in the NCW. Are you crazy? LOL

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  5. One day Anthony will stand before God. God will ask him " Anthony did you serve my priestly heart in the priests I entrusted to you?" " why did you leave my priestly heart suffering in the hearts of brother Priests?" Today, at this hour there are priests on Guam suffering very badly in silence abandoned by Anthony.

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    1. All you will stand before God, for bad things being said about the Archbishop, tim being in front of the line

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    2. 342am, we all will answer to G-- for all our actions and inactions. And fellow anon, are you G-- to know that there will be a line, let alone who will be in the front of that line? Very presumptuous of you.

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    3. right after Kiko, pius, and AAA, and when Tim comes up, God will say welcome home my son, The five in front of you are taking the down elevator. jesofchalanpago

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    4. While we will answer to God, bishops will bear the most accountable, for "whom much is given much is expected." Bishops have the gravest and greatest duty of all. Thus said St. John Crysostom: "the floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops." It was a warning.

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    5. I believe it true bishops will be held more accountable for what they have done.

      My fear is the great pain to God caused by bishops is their lies, cover ups, and more the things they have not done, which they should have done. This is why at the end of the day only God knows what to do. All we humans can do is to do the right thing in each and every situation. I'm praying Bishop Apuron will do same. Please amend any wrongs in life.

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  6. @ 5:57 PM: what in Tim's post suggests that he thinks he's God? Instead of your ad hominem attacks, why don't you try to meet facts with facts?

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  7. Tim should have been bishop!!!!

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    1. And you 12:27AM should have been made POPE! It's amazing how the Kikos, take to honoring and praising their leader and would do anything to protect them....namely, Carmen, Kiko, Father, P. , Punchos Pilot, APURON etc. guess they worship the ground these people walk on....for me, I will "walk on by"...

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  8. I will follow the example of Christ when he cleansed the Temple. We must cleanse our diocese of the harmful effects of the neos. Our diocese is becoming a "den of robbers." It's up to us to "cleanse" our diocese.

    Eileen Benavente-Blas

    Matthew 21:12-13New American Standard Bible (NASB)

    Cleansing the Temple

    12 And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves.13 And He *said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer’; but you are making it a robbers’ [a]den.”

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  9. The "Tim are you God" comment must have been made by "Diana", who thinks Pius is God. Oh what tangled web we weave....

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    1. Well, diana speaks with great authority. Not God, just a great pretender. The more wrong she is the more authoritative she gets!!

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  10. Clearly an idiot has been scrolling Jungle Watch then "it" confused itself by implying that Tim is acting as if he were God. Fact is that Tim is truly doing what a Good Christian must, question the legitimacy of our impostor of a selfish, lying poor excuse of a Bishop. Pray for guidance and the Lord may open your very closed mind, deaf ears and blind eyes. Thank you for all you do Tim & members of CCOG. Sincerely.

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  11. Sorry my name is not Anonymous, but there was no other choice for me. I have a suggestion that the N CW, join the Catholic Church after one year of coming back to the faith which they had previously abandoned. This is necessary because the Church is suffering financially because their collections are no longer in the basket. Their collections are going to enrich Guam hotels where they meet for the so called " Retreats". This money should be used to support the local parishes according to the precepts of the Catholic church.CCOG

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