Sunday, March 22, 2015

HEY, MAYBE I SHOULD CHECK OUT THE NEOCATECHUMENAL WAY AFTER ALL!

Just so you have the context. An anonymous Neo had commented wondering why there was so much criticism of the NCW and not other groups and how he/she had been saved by the neo, etc. You can read initial comment here

I then responded:



You don't hear negative things about the Cursillo or the Christian Mothers or whatever because they don't have their own seminaries, their own priests, their own "eucharist", their own theology, and a hierarchy which abuses and mistreats people and thinks nothing of stealing property.

You can do the "feel good" all you like, but if you consume the sacred host while seated and not immediately upon it being handed to you, you are participating in an illicit liturgy and you are outside the Catholic Church so long as you continue to do so.

Feel free to prove me wrong by simply showing me where it is permitted. This may seem like a small thing to you but it has been at the heart of the division from the beginning. Your different way of receiving communion is an expression of a different belief, a belief that Kiko has about the nature of the Eucharist. It doesn't matter that you personally don't know that or don't embrace that. it simply is. And your participation in it is a support of a different belief, and that different belief has led to all this hell because to survive, Kiko must leech off the real church.

I'll be expecting your reply.


Then Melvin here, after weighing in with a huge mouthful of chastisement for us all on another post, decides he's going to respond to me on this one, giving us all a glaring example of why we should all want to join the Neocatechumenal Way:



  1. Melvin W. QuineneMarch 22, 2015 at 10:24 PM
    And so what ! were you there when Jesus handed the bread/Eucharist to his disciples Tim? do you know for a fact that they were supposed to consume the Eucharist immediately after being handed it,the feel good thing, what's this supposed to mean ? to me you sound like a disciple of the Devil you and all those who choose to berate the NCW on this nothing but the devil''s disciples site ! What does having their own seminaries, priests, their own eucharist and a hierarchy have to do with the NCW, have you ever been to a men's weekend, are you a member of the Christian mothers association, are you a professor of theology, and to say "which abuses and mistreats people.".what people are you referring to ? Yes I can do the " feel good " all I like because I have found God, apparently you have not, in the NCW, illicit liturgy, outside the Catholic Church. So you mean to say that as an example, here after the war, you see photos of Mass celebrations being held out in the field, that the Mass celebrations are invalid, there is an altar, and everything else that is needed for the mass celebration. In the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1345-1355, 1408 it states this; The Eucharist unfolds in two great parts which together form one, single act of worship. The Liturgy of the word involves proclaiming and listening to the Word of God. The Liturgy of the Eucharist includes the presentation of the bread and wine, the prayer or the anaphora containing the words of consecration, and communion. I've not come across any citation in the COTCC that states we immediately have to consume the Eucharist or otherwise we are doing as you say participating in an illicit liturgy, who in the hell do you think you are HUH??? IF YOU ARE A CATHOLIC, WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO BASH THE NCW TIM ??? by the way the previously mentioned organizations do have to have some approval to be a valid organization or movement which I believe come from Rome, to me you fall under the definition of NIHIL OBSAT, an AETHEIST.

Just a few notes to help you, Melvin. Your statute (Art. 13) requires you to follow the "liturgical books" when celebrating the liturgy, not the COTCC (Catechism of the Catholic Church). The "liturgical books" are the Roman Missal and the General Instruction for the Roman Missal (GIRM). You'll find the instruction to consume immediately upon reception in par. 161. (P.S. you may actually want to read your statute.) 

And those big words you end with are actually spelled NIHIL OBSTAT and ATHEIST. 

And thank you for that!

NIHIL OBSTAT ("nothing stands in the way") is a designation given to Catholic publications by bishops in order to assure readers that there is nothing in the publication contrary to the faith and morals of the Catholic Church. So thank you for that. You have declared this blog, with your NIHIL OBSTAT (despite the mis-spelling) free of anything that would contradict the faith and morals of the Catholic Church. That's quite an honor! And quite the opposite of ATHEIST, by the way. 

Hey, maybe I should check out this Neocatechumenal Way after all. 


32 comments:

  1. Really? OK then I guess you were there Mr Melvin we Jesus passed around the body and blood? Also you might want to stay tuned with open ears idiot and at least try to understand what us Catholics want to know is. Why does ncw need to break apart the catholic church for them to practice their faith? Why ? Because your leaders depend on our faith to support yours. So next time you want to be an asshole, go to your leaders and give them your attention. Another thing if you wanted to practice your faith elsewhere next time go to harvest Christian, or seven day Adventist do go into a church and try to do things YOUR WAY. So find another way to be a dick.

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  2. Tim- This Melvin "IDIOT" W. QUINENE is in community with the other "IDIOT" Antoine...LOL..bunch of IDIOTS!...IDIOTS ya'll better be fixing that mess down there in Merizo instead of trying to defend your CULT!. Again Tim..YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID! lol

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    1. and this anonymous coward @11:54pm is from Malojloj a Capuchin Drop out, a product of the temptations of the Bay Area formation. An inactive walker from Chalan Pago Community. Your repetitive LOL just gives. Its time to confess to Tim who you are. Dont worry you'll be forgiven, no one will place judgment on your immaturity. I think its time that Fr. Eric finds out about all the bad mouthing that you have been doing about him. STUPID CAN BE FIXED! lol. Its Schizophrenia that just needs some confirmed diagnosis.

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  3. I am new to the blog. Does NCW stand for Non Conforming Wastrels? Just wondering.

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  4. More proof the ncw doesn't believe in apostolic succession. Hence the gap between the primitive church and Vatican 2.

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  5. Melvin W. QuineneMarch 23, 2015 at 1:24 AM

    Typos everyone makes them before you continue your jaw wagging, I suggest you look at your misspelling IDIOT ! Definition 1. Psychol. A person of profound mental retardation. No longer in scientific use and considered offensive. 2. A stupid person: FOOL. The NCW or let me spell it out for you NEOCATECHUMENAL WAY is not the cause of the divisiveness in the Church, it is the negative aura, perception of those who like YOU, and the many others who frown upon the NCW without an inkling of what it is all about and for whatever else they want to make up is the cause of this "break apart the Catholic Church so you say for us to practice our faith ? ", it is not as you perceive it to be, you may be seeing things in a different light or are being mislead. Our leaders do not depend on your faith, by the way what is your faith? to support ours.The word asshole does not exist in the dictionary, the word rectum does, ( The portion of the large intestine from the sigmoid flexure to the anal canal. ) in which every body has one. I don't need to go to my leaders to get their attention because God already has it. I graduated from GCC back in 1983, I do not need to go back to school once more,I am going to school however in what is called the NeoCatechumenal Way. Dick: Definition 1. A detective. Definition 2. A fellow: Chap. The definition of Neo: 1. New : recent 2 a.New and different b. new and abnormal. 3. New world. B e cautious of how you come at me with you verbage, I could get you traced and file charges of slander against you, your approach already sounds threatening in nature to me, so be careful, misspellings occur so take a look at the spelling of your words, before you make corrections with anyone else, I know what the defintion of NIHIL OBSTAT means, and Atheist as well, so I spelled it wrong as did you "we " should have been " when". You sound like your from Merizo ??? are you ??? it doesn't matter. Like I said in my post earlier God, like a teacher during a test is silent and observing.

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    1. Well, that was helpful. No wonder your catechists tell you to stay away from this blog.

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    2. Melvin, stop commenting here. You're embarassing us. Didn't we tell you to stay away from JungleWatch? Better go take a writing class at U.O.G. before making any of your writings public.
      /s/ Diana (a.k.a. dingbat)

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    3. LOL keep telling yourself that Melvin... you see that's the problem, you would step on a nail and think that cupid was trying to help you fall in love...... just stop making a fool of yourself or we'll ask Tim to post a picture of you to show people what stupid really looks like.......

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    4. find me then mr detective and I hope you do

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    5. Melvin you are an idiot. you want some attention go to your neo fudge packing fathers tell them how you feel this is not a place to receive psycho therapy. go back to and get therapy from the ones that screwed your head. don't come here looking for sympathy and what are you going to do if you find me? because I am not scared of you bitch. thats what happens when you play in the jungle, this is natures playing ground.

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    6. and yes you are stupid because just like everyone else in the way you signed your life away t a bunch of puppets that are controlled by someone else to sweet talk you and rape you blind.....

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    7. It seems poor Melvin has nothing to say about the GIRM, then. I wonder if he looked it up?

      And what is it with rectums? These Neos seem to be a little fixated if you ask me. What would Freud say about that I wonder?

      Sadly, Melvin is rather typical of the fanatical devotees of the Kikocatechumenal Way. We've seen it all before. Why is it so hard for Rome to see this too? Shouldn't the pastoral care of these poor damaged people urge them to action (caritas Christi urget nos)?

      The Nihil Obstat man. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

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    8. St Thomas of Aquinas said: "none is more dangerous than the man that just read one book".....
      That should cover this nonsense

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  6. Melvin sounds like a true neo idiot.

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    1. Melvin, you live so deep in the Merizo Jungle that they have to pipe in sunlight so you don't pee on yourself.

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  7. timmy... chuckie...

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    1. LOL. We know we've won when that's all you have to say. LOL. Courage.

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  8. Jonathan, relative to your comment. Email me asap.

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  9. Melvin...this is your catechist, stop digging your hole deeper...go pick flowers for the table, I mean alter.

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  10. What a miserable "nene" this Melvin Quinene! Ha Ha, a comedic tragedy who thinks he can speak on behalf of ncw. Even your ncw spits you out with these kinds of comments. You have the burden of proof to testify to your community's sanity, and you failed miserably. Quack, quack, quack...no sense of propriety and total lack of tack. Please refrain from using words you have no idea about. Knowing words is not enough...try context and nuance, which you are definitely oblivious about. Go cry on papa pius' shoulders, We are not "feel good" panacea to your personal miseries.

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  11. GCC in 1983, hmmmm...nope, you are not ready for a major-hitting intellectual discussion. Do not delude yourself, little man-boy. Please leave it to us, adults, okay? Now, now, go do some coloring and if you behave, maybe some pizza and ice pop later, huh? Run over to mommy tony so you can feel good all over again.

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  12. I love the "make me feel good" talk. That's the problem right there, you are serving yourself first. But let us see how the brainwashing works after the scrutiny and you are asked to give up your property or whatever else they ask of. Good luck Melvin!

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  13. Janet B - MangilaoMarch 23, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    The NeoCatechumenal Way saved my life! The NCW saved my marriage. The NCW saved my this-that-and the other!.

    How many times have we heard this? Anyone who has had the misfortune of being at a mass invaded by kiko witnessing will find this "the NCW saved my (fill in the blank)" very familiar sounding. It is their mantra and their theology.

    Funny thing is, I have never heard one of these kiko-nuts say, Jesus saved my life, Jesus saved my marriage, Jesus saved my (fill in the blank). This is a glaring difference, because in the true Catholic Church, you hear people exclaim this quite often.

    So for all you kiko-nuts out there, you can keep your brand of religion. You can rely on your catechists, your poorly trained presbyters, and Kiko to save your life. To the Neos looking to deepen their relationship with Jesus, after you've tried this farce of a faith (otherwise called a cult), we are ready to welcome you back. But as for me and my family, (and the rest of the true Catholic world) we choose to follow Jesus.

    Amen?

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    1. AMEN! I don't go around saying the Catholic Church saved my marriage or saved my life because all honor and glory goes to God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Amen.

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    2. Amen! Jesus Christ saves!

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  14. We were TOLD

    folks, please give melvin his 15 minutes of community flame, (neo candles don’t last)
    after all he’s faithfully doing what he’s TOLD for those not keeping current (TOLD) about our local neo communities activity regarding “anthony’s” anal appeal we were TOLD by someone who TOLD him that they were TOLD that they have been holding a lottery but even we’renot TOLD of all the details, but needless to say that said winner of lottery is TOLD to do battle with “TIM”, said winner is TOLD to use the JW pulpit to give testimony (TOLD if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bullshit) you know just tell them what we tell you (but say it in your own words)was the only guideline TOLD the winner, need we say who were previous winners, we think (they were TOLD that they were winners) but all TOLD what their TOLD and they all went down in flames, see we TOLD you (neo candles don’t last) we’re TOLD they are still quietly living in their echoes, so we’re TOLD, don’t quote me on this, but we’re also TOLD that “anthony’s” anal appeal encourages members to make side bets which include but is not limited to (word count, # of replies, # of winner replies and overall ESL skills) these are just a few we’re TOLD about, we’re also TOLD the current champ is obviously Diana (has that denial blog), we’re TOLD diana should be considered as a winner, but it’s not fair because she has her own pulpit, and lets everyone use her pulpit whenever they want, we’re TOLD diana is so special because she does what she is TOLD so better than any other neo, zoltan was doing so well, till he TOLD, at least we’re TOLD he can still count, oh we almost forgot about antoine tajalle, he ran from the pulpit, later we’re TOLD he was TOLD that he was to ……. Sorry forgot what we’re TOLD but don’t worry folks we’re TOLD zoltan and antoine are on mission in the continents of Diana

    “Don’t tell this to anybody else… If people knew this, they would go away quickly…” This is very surprising for a Movement which pretends to be Catholic

    TOLD by kikobird

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    1. Looks like a bout of anaphora, thanks to Melvin. LOL

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  15. Melvin W. QuineneMarch 23, 2015 at 1:24 AM

    "You do not need an important endorsement to believe that Jesus is giving us the Truth as He did, The Traditional Church because "I Am" endorsed it Himself." Perhaps you may continue to search for that perfect church that your heart so desires "Free Will". Don't forget that you already found it, had it, and left it. Please come back for Jesus' sake and thy Mother!!!! God bless you.


    We have no right to rest as long as a single souls is satan's slave.~St. Mazimillian Kolbe.

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  16. What happened to the Melvin swagger? No more ammo, so short-lived? Does pontius pius need to wind up his toy Melvin to continue his idiotic rant?

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  17. Guess I'll stretch...get a snack and wander over to see what Diana has to say. CU later.

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  18. Ai si Melvin....Quinene ni Neo!

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