What coincidence! Tim writes a letter to Hon, a summons and complaint are served on Hon and Hon holds a press conference.
Chuck, can we get the transcript? Between the poor audio and Hon's accent, it is difficult to understand what he had to say. I did catch that he insists that he is in no position to investigate.
great selection of priest present.. No edi
The priest as window dressing. Tim made the right call by shunning Hon's photo op.
I have a concern and question about Hon’s public too-little-too-late disingenuous photo-op concern for the Apuron’s sexual and mental abuse victims. This is what I observed and I really hope that this thing I saw only appeared to happen: we saw Msgr. Benavente put a paper copy on the podium of what can be assumed to be his copy of his opening message. Then it looks like this other person from the other side of the room come up to the podium with a piece of paper in his hand looking like he was maybe replacing Msgr’s copy? Msgr. Benavente reacts to that and well, watch everyone’s faces including Fr. Mike, Msgr walking to the other side of the room and then walking back to the front and then the way Msgr reads the opening message in front of him, like it was not his words. Like he was forced to read someone else’ words. I stand corrected if I'm mistaken about what I think I saw.
I don't have radio here but put the live feed on and agree that I need to hear or read a better transcript. But the summary and interviews at the end tell me that Father Paul was re-instated and cleared and that Monsignor James matter was being worked on and that he may be cleared also. Father Paul and Father James were thanking everyone. Also, I think Archbishop Hon was talking about the abuse issue. I think he said that all the proper paperwork regarding Archbishop Apuron have been forwarded to Rome.Also-- I think they are doing something about addressing the victims NOW. I'm very hopeful and I think there has been very positive movement. Thank you Tim!!!! It's starting and there is still way much to be done, but at least it's starting.
He's still skirting around the issues. The charges against the priests were found to be untrue, but still has not reinstated them anywhere? C'mon pale's where's the justice you think you received? Why does Hon have difficulty identifying people by name? What's with "all that may have been harmed.." What about the apology to the Lastimoza family? Dancing in the dark...
Amber Alert..Apuron Alert
Hon is very confusing how he presents data. Im told at the end of the press conference he cleared james and paul.This needs to be announced.
Monsignor was not reinstated. Fr. Paul as well. There has to be a Decree of revocation and reinstement. Nothing is offical and real until then.
AAA ... Although you said that you are still our bishop, you no longer are regarded as such!
Still a lot of grey areas.Where is Apuron?Timing of the investigation in Rome?There was no decree of removal of Fr Paul?I guess somebody cleaned up the files in the first 4 weeks.What does the Archbishop want to achieve by meeting with the victims at this time?So many questions, left without answers...
DECREE OF REMOVAL:https://www.scribd.com/document/223636939/Apuron-vs-Gofigan-2013-11-12-Decree-of-Removal
Archbishop Hon now understands the financial implications that have fallen on him due to Apuron's lies slander. He needs to get the victims to withdrew slander cases against Archdiocese and himself.
So, there it is...signed by Apuron and Cristobal. AB Hon will get word of this, so I now await his decree of revocation and reinstatement. Let's see how long that takes!Every time I read documents that Apuron has published/released and watch or listen to his interviews and media releases I get more and more disgusted with him. And then even more when the sexual allegations came out and I heard his response to it - just utterly unbelievable!! How stupid can one get? Illicit intentions provoke illicit actions. How hard is that to comprehend???There is a huge cloud over him and multiple issues that need to be cleared up before anyone can move forward.
Did Hon have conflicting reports about whether Apuron is on Guam? The first time he was asked about that it sounded as if he said he was in Rome for a time meeting with the Holy See, but kind of alluded to the fact that he came back after that. The second time Hon was asked if Archbishop is on island and if he met with Apuron he flat out just said no. Any word on where Apuron actually is? The news article I read mentioned that Apuron was served when papers were handed to someone of age who shared his residence. Who is the lady that was served the summons?
Hon knows exactly where Apuron is, The NCW has wisked him away as they did Wadeson and Camacho. Hiding from the Law, I am betting that Apuron in in NJ with Gennarini hiding, and that Hon knows exactly where he is. The NCW couple staying at his house who received the summons know exactly where Apuron is at also. Hope they pass the word onto him that he is being served legal documents. Its coming Tony...
So, correct me if I've misunderstood Archbishop Hon, but it seems that he has:1. Contradicted the previous statements made by the Archdiocese regarding the motivation of those (esp Tim Rohr) who sought answers about financial matters, and the sexual abuse allegations.2. Contradicted the previous statements of the Archdiocese regarding the motivations of the survivors of Apuron's abuse in their claims of abuse against Apuron. ie that they were not "malicious, calumnious or attacking the Church". He said "I recant and retract all such statements"3. Stated that Fr Paul was not "formally disobedient"4. Stated that Mons Benevente was not afforded due process.I must say I am disappointed that the media were so weak in their opportunity to ask questions.The most obvious to me would include:Given that Hon has now appeared to affirm the concerns raised by Tim Rohr and others, what measures have been taken in relation to determining who was responsible for the wrong actions of the Archdiocese in making those statements? Has anyone been disciplined? What was their motivation in making the statements? And also, what is the common factor pertaining to those people who made those statements and press releases? HINT: what is the relationship of those people to the NCW? And did the NCW leadership have any part to play in those statements/releases having been made.Why did the media, in their opportunity to ask questions of Hon, not ask about the NCW, which is clearly central to the problems of the Archdiocese?Why did the media no ask Hon whether he supports the activity of the NCW on Guam? Does Hon believe that the NCW is not violating their own statutes and the lawful authority of the Church in the liturgy and elsewhere, or does Hon believe that the NCW has a right to do so?Hon (and the rest) have painted themselves into a corner, and so had no choice but to make these public statements today, in order to minimize the damage and threat to themselves. But that is hardly enough. Still no mention of the NCW does not cut it, as everyone knows that they are central to the problem and dealing with them is central to the resolution.
You seem to have an investigative spirit, 3:56 PM, these are excellent questions. Why don't YOU try to ask them yourself by seeking an appointment with Archbishop Hon? Don't just rely on others to give you answers, especially since for you the media is lame in their questioning? Be involved, be part of the solution if you so desire it.
Thankyou I guess. The problem I have is that I am following this from abroad, and can't do as you suggest. I have been following this blog closely for some years as we see the NCW infiltration here as well as in Guam. I wish I could do more.
The next time KUAM sponsors a live conference on Facebook; I recommend all to use the comments section on facebook to address any questions or concerns you want KUAM to address the forum. I noticed during the live interview with the three victims after this conference aired, comments made on facebook was addressed to the forum.
What's really happening here is that Archbishop Hon is undoing all the dirty and nasty work Anthony Apuron did which Apuron really screwed up. So taking all those things into consideration, its pretty safe to say, we can read between the lines of what Archbishop Hon is saying or could say publicly. The end result can be rather obvious. No surprises. Its just a matter of time when we get the big fish.
Victims respond to today's press conference. They all stated that they never received an invitation to attend today's conference with AB Hon.https://www.facebook.com/kuamnews/videos/10153954272213742/
This battle is yet to be won, people. Looks good from the surface, but let's get to the underlying root. NCW! Do not lose focus on defrocking apuron. That monster does not deserve any honorable recognition. The stooges, David the Lurch, Adrian No Balls, Stinky Monk Pius, Primate Edivaldu....punish them. No Justice, No Peace!!!!
For those who are following Hon's words and actions hoping for relief from the injustice and abuses inflicted on our church and its faithful followers by apuron and his ilk, they may have noticed a change in his attitude and demeanor. Remarkable what a two million dollar lawsuit can do to arrogance!But do not be fooled. He is still the same wolf in sheep's clothing. He has not really given up anything substantive.
Yes, yes, and yes, dear fellow laity. We might as well ordain laypeople to priesthood, to preside at Masses since no one among our clergy seems to meet the rather discerning standards of Guam that evolved in this struggle. There are exemplars among those who work hard and long to right injustices, they gave time, energy and efforts, they walked in the heat of the sun, etc. What a sacrifice indeed. Abraham found it difficult to find even ten righteous people in Sodom, but for sure, for sure, the righteous are aplenty in Guam.
We did not set the standards -- Jesus Christ did.
Ahah, a funny guy! Doing what you suggest so sarcastically, would in fact amount to joining the neos. (Since this is exactly what they do)This is not a way or a Way to go...This not Sodom, even with the practices of our failed Bishop.So I think we shall pass on your tongue in cheek suggestion.In the meantime, we should be very thankful for those who gave and continue to give their time and effort, not withstanding your remarks.Joy