Wednesday, August 17, 2016

CARDINAL ZEN: HON "EXILED TO GUAM"

Posted by Chuck White


Card. Zen: My concerns over China-Holy See dialogue and repercussions on Chinese Church

"The fact is that one of the two living chinese (sic) Cardinals (and not suspect of senility) is barred from knowing anything about how they are negotiating the affair of the Church in China. There is still a chinese (sic) in “Rome”, but he must be a nuisance,he was exiled to Guam. How sad it is that the proclaimed promoters of dialogue, have suppressed it within the Church."

Card. Joseph Zen, bishop emeritus of Hong Kong, speaks out on behalf of the underground Catholic communities in China, but buried in his piece is something quite interesting...

http://m.asianews.it/news-en/Card.-Zen:-My-concerns-over-China-Holy-See-dialogue-and-repercussions-on-Chinese-Church-38222.html

3 comments:

  1. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 17, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    How do you spell V-I-N-D-I-C-A-T-I-O-N ?

    Tim Rohr has consistently questioned the motives of Rome in sending Hon to Guam. And some people, friend and foe, have criticized Mr Rohr for villifying Hon, saying he should be happy that Rome has finally responded to our pleas for help. They ask, "Will anything satisfy the Jungle Nation"? Give Hon a chance, they argue.

    And Tim has steadfastly said that if Rome were serious about fixing the problems, they would have sent someone better equipped than Hon to fix our problems. The fact that they sent the Secretary of a Congregation shows they have ulterior motives.

    Then, amazingly, in an unrelated article regarding Vatican and Chinese relations, we see the same question arise. Cardinal Zen, also from Hong Kong, and also a fellow Salesian of Hon, makes an extraordinary remark. It was meant to question Guam, but it is an example of his on how the Vatican lacks respect for Chinese clergy in general.

    Cardinal Zen said "The fact is that one of the two living chinese Cardinals (and not suspect of senility) is barred from knowing anything about how they are negotiating the affair of the Church in China. There is still a chinese in “Rome”, but he must be a nuisance, he was exiled to Guam. How sad it is that the proclaimed promoters of dialogue, have suppressed it within the Church.".

    Zen talks about suppression of dialogue from the Vatican. And we see that while Hon is chinese, his Roman influence has proven very useful to the NCW...suppression of dialogue. It was only after a lawsuit was filed that Hon felt the need to open up, but not fully. And always with a neo slant.

    "I'm reaching out to the victims, they should call me" Hon's attitude is very neo, come to me to teel me how bad you are. But Jesus did not wait for people to come to him, he traveled extensively to the villages to meet the people.

    "The seminary belongs to the Archdiocese, without a doubt" Because this is what the neo thieves have told him. Why he doesn't speak to experts to get the real story is is mystery, unless he doesn't want to know the real story.

    "I have appointed a commission to review the seminaries". Yet two of the five members are in charge of the seminaries and one is a direct employee under Hon, who's longevity depends on staying in Hon's good graces (Fr Jeff).

    To be continued…….

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  2. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 17, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Continuation – part two

    Hon has been infected with Roman influence to go around the process and accomplish whatever you want with a lot of double speak. He says he is here to fix Guam. Yet in the two and a half months he has been here he has not fixed even one of the problems we have been talking about.

    Back to Cardinal Zen, my new hero of straight talk. He says Rome is not hearing the voice of the Chinese Catholics fighting for what is right: to keep secular influences from controlling the Church. Rome bends too easily to the secular authorities, rather than doing what is difficult, but right. It is an excellent article that all should read.

    He says that Hon must have been a nuisance in Rome so they exiled him to Guam. Perhaps, a better explanation is that Hon is a part of the Roman hierarchy facing the same dilemma as China secular influence, and was sent to Guam to uphold the secular authority of the NCW in Guam, and the world.

    Kiko has ruled many aspects of the Church through his very small minority cult movement. He has used money to build a power base in the Vatican. It is to the point that Kiko determines which men go to an RMS seminary, and where they will go. And in the back end, people like Gennarinni determine who will get ordained. The secular has the power and the Bishops have none.

    China, on a more global scale. But the same result. While I think Cardinal Zen is brilliant in his analysis of the China situation, he is only slightly wrong on the Hon exile. He wasn't a nuisance, he was a useful stooge, willing to do whatever his boss Filoni (rhymes with Baloney) wants. And Filoni (rhymes with Baloney), wants to support the secular, money rich NCW secular cult.

    Until Hon actually acts to improve the situation on Guam, rather than just speak nice and flowery language, we need to keep the pressure up. Hon is not a friend, until he acts like a friend. Words won't do.

    The Jungle Nation is watching and waiting. But so far, we remain wary of the chinese nuisance sent from Rome.

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  3. It's refreshing to read a profound, yet simple rendering of facts that face the Church in china. AB Hon is cut from a different mold.

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