Monday, October 17, 2016

NEOCATECHUMENAL FOUNDATIONS

Posted by LaPaz, Jungle Watch Correspondant from Spain.

STATUTE OF THE NEOCATECHUMENAL WAY
Title I Nature and implementation of the Neocatechumenal Way 

Art. 4 [Temporal goods] 
§ 1. The Neocatechumenal Way, being an itinerary of Catholic formation that is implemented in the dioceses through services freely given, has no material goods of its own.
§ 2. When in a diocese it is considered useful to financially support initiatives and activities for the evangelization realized through the Neocatechumenal Way, the diocesan bishop, at the request of the International Responsible Team of the Way, will consider the suitability of erecting an autonomous diocesan foundation, with juridical personality, regulated by its own statutes, which will also be recognized by the civil authorities. This may also be supported by oblatory donations made by participants in the Neocatechumenal Way, as well as by foundations and other individuals. 
§ 3. In the communities, collections are made to answer different needs. It is the task of the responsible team of the community and of the responsible teams of the Way at every level, to ensure that such collections are administered with a great sense of responsibility and respect for the law. 

Here there are some examples.



1. FUNDACIÓN SIERVOS DE YAVÉ (ECUADOR)




2. FUNDACIÓN SIERVO DE YAHVEH INC. (PUERTO RICO)


3. CENTRO NEOCATECUMENAL DIOCESANO SANCTA MARIA DE AFRICA (CEUTA, SPAIN).


4. FUNDACIÓN FAMILIA DE NAZARET (WITH SAME ADDRESS IS THE NEOCATECHUMENAL DIOCESAN CENTER IN MADRID, SPAIN).




5. THE FAMILY OF NAZARETH FOUNDATION (IRELAND).


6. CENTRO NEOCATECUMENAL DE YAHVER (REPUBLICA DOMINICANA)



As you can imagine, the ocean of existing foundations related with the NCW is infinite. Names used for titles sometimes are quite obvious, like we see here in my examples. 

The funny thing is the spectrum of variations with certain words: Yavé / Yahveh / Yahver...
I recognize I was near to dead laughing with last one: "Yahver". It sounds quite gypsy (sorry). People from Dominicana use to create their own words (they say "mi amol" instead of "mi amor", etc.). For me, it is very difficult to understand their Spanish. 

Adding the variations on singular/plural: Siervo de Yavé (singular), Siervos de Yavé (plural).


Just consider it to notice the complexity of the task.

Naturally, it is near to impossible to trace all existing records. It is like putting doors to the sea. 

But sometimes impossible is nothing. 

Does anybody have enough courage to look for more??!!??!

Does anybody want to join?


12 comments:

  1. This is how the NCW money machine (Scam) is setup in Australia.

    https://www.acnc.gov.au/RN52B75Q?ID=AE636ED5-90DB-40A5-8723-6C3788BC7A67&noleft=1

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  2. It is the task of the responsible team of the community and of the responsible teams of the Way at every level, to ensure that such collections are administered with a great sense of responsibility and respect for the law.
    The NCW fails to follow the LAW in Guam with regards to the handling of MONEY.

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  3. The NCW can call it whatever they want to. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, then it must be a duck. I call it church donations.

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    1. I call it "technology duck flying" for Kiko, Mr. Terlaje: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1l23yGkSZB4/U3PO6cKZzzI/AAAAAAAABwc/s4uyQ5nXo1A/s1600/elikiko.jpg

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  4. Mr Terlaje..you must be watching Judge Judy's show too...lol..

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    1. No, I'm watching the NCWs feeble attempts at trying to infiltrate the Catholic Church with their Protestant theology and Lutheran principles.

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  5. Well I hate to ruin Tim's seeming purposeful distortion of the facts. Based on what you posted these autonomous diocesan foundation can only be opened in communion with the local Bishop and in accordance with civil law. Yep, that sounds like an obvious scheme... What exactly are you accusing so many bishops of the church of?

    I also particularly enjoy how you speak of the fact that their are many of these autonomous diocesan foundations as proof of something other then the fact that many, many bishops have seen such a value in the Neocatechemenal Way that they have decided to open one. There are a lot of them you say? Well that's great. But then again there are also a whole lot of diocese around the world... Like almost 3,000.

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    1. Seem like you're missing the point. Take the example from Australia, linked above, as an example.

      Here's the rules of the Association (Foundation):
      https://www.acnc.gov.au/Document?Seqn=231872&Ikey=AE636ED5-90DB-40A5-8723-6C3788BC7A67&Aseqn=863592

      So, now you can have a look and see how it is established, and operated.

      First of all note that the foundation is set up to basically support anything the NCW does or is involved in, including the seminaries.

      I say "seminaries, rather than "seminary" as their are two that the foundation concerns itself with - one in Perth and one in Sydney.

      But no doubt you will astutely point out that the foundation was established by the Archbishop of Perth - leaving us wondering how he has any relationship with the RMS in Sydney.

      You will then notice, of course, that apart from the mention of the Archbishop, and the seminaries, there is no further reference to any particular Diocese, as this foundation sits above any particular Diocese, causing us to wonder, how could it serve the Bishop of any particular Diocese if it not actually a "Diocesan" entity, but, as in this case, a national one.

      Then, we can see how it operates, and who operates it.

      First of all, there (up to) eight "Members", of which the Archbishop of Perth (or his nominee) is one. The rest must include the national catechists, and up to four more NCW members, nominated by the NCW (and "appointed" by the Archbishop of Perth).

      From those Members, is a appointed a President, a Council and an Association Committee.

      As it clearly states in the rules:

      "The president reports to the Council, the Council reports to the Association Committee"

      And who is the Association Committee?
      The Chief catechists of the NCW in Australi, and they have total Veto power over the council.

      In other words, the NCW catechists run this foundation totally, and without any interference from any pesky Archbishops. The Archbishop's job is to open the foundation, lend it some diocesan identity and then let the NCW do what they want.

      It seems to have worked in you case Anon at 12.21Am, as you think this is perfectly reasonable.

      Can you truly not see the scam and lie here Anon?

      "§ 1. The Neocatechumenal Way, being an itinerary of Catholic formation that is implemented in the dioceses through services freely given, has no material goods of its own."

      But that's simply not true, as can be seen by the articles of this foundation. The fact that it is replicated wherever the NCW exists, only compounds the scam - not make it more "normal".

      The big lie in the NCW is that they are at the service of the Bishops. Nonsense! We can see how they operate. It is entirely self oriented, incestuous, controlling, secretive and deceptive in its intent and structure.

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    2. "AnonymousOctober 18, 2016 at 12:21 AM
      Well I hate to ruin Tim's seeming purposeful distortion of the facts".
      Do not worry, I am the author of the post, not Tim, who is very occupied with many other matters.
      Thank you for giving us a nice reading of those few examples of NCW foundations. Your understanding of them is perfect, exactly the interpretation of facts wanted by Kiko and his Way for the gallery. Great.
      Wherever a neocatechumenal member or supporting of NCW charism uses to talk, always illustrates us with the truth.
      You give us the propper view: how facts must be seen from outside the Way but in convivence (oops, in communion) with it.
      Thank you.

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  6. NCW donations not being treated as church donations proves (for the umpteenth time) it isn't a diocesan movement. It isn't a diocesan way (as we have seen). RMSs are not a diocesan house (as we have seen) therefore no one on earth has the right to let it claim the Yona property. (Your DLM and AG evidently had a bad conscience about that.)

    (Huge evidence also has been brought to light that it isn't a Catholic movement or church movement at all.)

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  7. Unfortunately, most of the people in those places are poorly educated and they're hostile toward the Vatican. Neocats can easily overtake them with their emotional garbage.

    Where I live, Neocats publicly support the greedy, bigoted, ultramontane Ordinary so he lets them do whatever they want.

    Their unorthodox stronghold is a virulently racist Hispanic parish run by Charismatic movement priests in a sketchy old barrio. However, the local Neocats' official HQ is a $1 million+ house located elsewhere. Someone lives there full-time, but I don't know who.

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  8. Thank you 12.47 for pointing out that section 1 is a bare faced fraud perpetrated in every country.

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