Saturday, March 25, 2017

REAL NUMBERS, NOT MANIPULATED BY KIKO.

Posted by LaPaz, Jungle Watch Correspondent from Spain.

A few days ago the Spanish Episcopal Conference published data on priestly vocations studying in Spain during the current 20016-2017. The tables collect data from each diocese where each seminar is incardinated. distinguishing between diocesan seminar and Redemptoris Mater (neocatechumenal) seminar.

It shows the number of seminarians of each one during the past course, 2015-2016, the number of them during the current course, the number of dropouts, new incomes, how many decided to go to a different seminary, number of ordained priests in 2015 and 2016.

Data sings. Here is the link to PDF.



I do not know what is happening in Italy, for example, but I am sure these Spanish statistics are frightening because Spain was supposedly called to be a kind of "spiritual reserve for Europe" and for the first time in last five years the light increase of vocations slows down.

The total number of dropouts is 137, the total number of ordained is 138 (including both: diocesan and Redemptoris Mater seminars).

Let me put the highlight this:

"Consulted experts underline their surprise at the abandonment of seminaries on the Neocatechumenal Way" (http://www.periodistadigital.com/religion/espana/2017/03/09/la-mitad-de-los-aspirantes-al-sacerdocio-en-espana-abandonan-antes-de-ordenarse-religion-iglesia-vocaciones-espana-seminario.shtml

Yes, Kiko. These are real numbers, provided by the governance of the Catholic Church in Spain.
Maybe your golden egg chicken is exhausted.


Just a question of time.


14 comments:

  1. In ncw seminars come out only 300 priests a year.

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    1. 300 priests a year is a lot more than Catholic seminaries are producing.

      We're lucky to get 2 new diocesan priests per year here and they're usually late vocations. All of the local major religious Orders combined don't ordain more than 4.

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    2. Cannot compare the number of priests from NCW seminaries with real seminaries. And certainly cannot compare to a diocese the size of Guam. However, before Apuron wrecked this place, local vocations were bountiful.

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  2. No surprise. With a failing economy, pro-abortion Spain is as atheistic as the rest of Europe. The Catholic Church lost its influence there long ago. Those gilded cathedrals and boozy religious festivals are just tourist attractions now.

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    1. Spain has been so wildly amoral since the 1970's that friends there had to sell their gorgeous beach homes and move inland to keep their children from being exposed to the constant public nudity and public sex acts there.

      A white European friend who is married to a highly educated, black professional man says Catholic Spain is also brutally racist. They hate the place and he's looking for equivalent work elsewhere.

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    2. Brutally racist? I do not think so. My children have classmates and friends from different countries, cultures, religion and colour. My oldest son works with people from ten different nacionalities! One of the two best friends of my youngest son is black from Africa!
      About amorality in Spain, I am afraid it is so european as any country around us. I hope your friends could find a place to live as they should do in Spain before 70's (with Franco)...maybe Qatar? There they do not allow nudism or public sex acts. By the date, I do not see nude people around me in Madrid, sorry.

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    3. Boozy religious festivals? I do not know what are you talking about. Boozy people, a lot, it is a pity that Spain is one of the best destinations for "alcohol tourism", we do not like it but alcohol in Spain is still very cheap in comparisson with England and Germany, for example.

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    4. "Community" business can only be transacted in the Sunday afternoon "chapter of faults" after lunch at which we have been heavily impressed we have to drink wine because it is a "sign". (Alcoholics exempted in person.) I assure you no one is receptive after that. I've seen it month in month out for well over twenty years before I started refusing to attend them.

      Take it from an insider who has been damaged by it.

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  3. Thank you, LaPaz. If the consulted experts had studied the movement, they might not have been so surprised. Young men are assigned to their Redemptoris Mater seminaries by a ritual lottery or divination rite called the Merkaba. There's little discernment in that! Read more.

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    1. Chuck, what the hell kind of voodoo is that?! It's demonic! Merkava is also the name of a killer Israeli battle tank.

      Over the past few years, there has been a lot of noise coming from the Vatican and UFO crazies on late night radio about God and space ships. Like Mormons, that bunch regards Jesus as an extraterrestrial. B16 and Francis refuse to condemn their beliefs.

      A retired monsignor (d.) who allegedly lived in Vatican City was often quoted as being an advocate of this garbage and an authority on it. I don't remember his name. Is the NCW behind this Christian space alien lunacy?

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    2. No, it doesn't seem to stem from a belief in aliens and UFO's but rather from Carmen and Kiko's infatuation with Kabbalah mysticism. Arguably a form of Gnosticism.

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    3. That was Msgr. Corrado Balducci who died in 2008. Papal diplomat and former exorcist in Rome. He said UFO's and extraterrestrials are real, causing a firestorm that won't burn out.

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    4. Kabbalah is mixed up with satanism. Madonna and several other admitted satanist celebrities are into it.

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    5. Vatican Observatory Director, Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno, said he'd baptize a space alien.

      Famous atheist astrophysicist Stephen Hawking is a member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (Why?!) and Francis is a big fan of his.

      The institutional Church has entered a self-destructive program never seen before.






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