Tuesday, July 25, 2017


Posted by Tim

Last night in our Catechism study, we came across an item close to our situation:
2388 Incest designates intimate relations between relatives or in-laws within a degree that prohibits marriage between them. St. Paul stigmatizes this especially grave offense: "180 It is actually reported that there is immorality among you . . . for a man is living with his father's wife.... In the name of the Lord Jesus ... you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh...." 181 Incest corrupts family relationships and marks a regression toward animality. 
2389 Connected to incest is any sexual abuse perpetrated by adults on children or adolescents entrusted to their care. the offense is compounded by the scandalous harm done to the physical and moral integrity of the young, who will remain scarred by it all their lives; and the violation of responsibility for their upbringing.
Now, back up to the punishment for incest: "In the name of the Lord Jesus ... you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh...." The footnote 181 directs us to 1 Corinthians Chapter 5:5. 

Paul does not say "stop judging," as Bushman Bushu up in Yigo recently shouted at his congregation, or as The Diana constantly harangues. Paul, "in the name of the Lord Jesus" chastises the Corinthians for NOT judging and for NOT purging the evil person from their midst. 

Let's look at the whole chapter, keeping in mind that the penalty for incest also applies to "sexual abuse perpetrated by adults on children or adolescents entrusted to their care:"

  1. It is widely reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of a kind not found even among pagans—a man living with his father’s wife.
  2. And you are inflated with pride. Should you not rather have been sorrowful? The one who did this deed should be expelled from your midst.
  3. I, for my part, although absent in body but present in spirit, have already, as if present, pronounced judgment on the one who has committed this deed,
  4. in the name of [our] Lord Jesus: when you have gathered together and I am with you in spirit with the power of the Lord Jesus,
  5. you are to deliver this man to Satan* for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
  6. Your boasting is not appropriate. Do you not know that a little yeast leavens all the dough?
  7. Clear out the old yeast, so that you may become a fresh batch of dough, inasmuch as you are unleavened. For our paschal lamb, Christ, has been sacrificed.
  8. Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
  9. I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people,
  10. not at all referring to the immoral of this world or the greedy and robbers or idolaters; for you would then have to leave the world.
  11. But I now write to you not to associate with anyone named a brother, if he is immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunkard, or a robber, not even to eat with such a person.
  12. For why should I be judging outsiders? Is it not your business to judge those within?
  13. God will judge those outside. “Purge the evil person from your midst.

It can't be stated any clearer than that. Of course, for sane people who have nothing to hide, purging the evil persons in our midst isn't even a question. But for those who must hide, their only defense for their crimes or the criminals they are trying to protect is to shout "stop judging." 

But then the above proves that they are NOT true Christians. In fact, they are worse than the pagans, and even more so - because they pretend to be shepherds - should IMMEDIATELY be purged from "our midst!"

Now let's take a look at this business of handing the perps "to Satan for the destruction of their flesh." Here is what the footnote in the NAB says:
4 [5] Deliver this man to Satan: once the sinner is expelled from the church, the sphere of Jesus' lordship and victory over sin, he will be in the region outside over which Satan is still master. For the destruction of his flesh: the purpose of the penalty is medicinal: through affliction, sin's grip over him may be destroyed and the path to repentance and reunion laid open. With Paul's instructions for an excommunication ceremony here, contrast his recommendations for the reconciliation of a sinner in ⇒ 2 Cor 2:5-11.
The key, of course, is the excommunication of the individual for his own good in the hopes that he will repent and convert after suffering the consequences of his own sins outside the protective cover of the Church - which he is abusing and thus further compounding his sin. 

And this is the tragedy of Anthony S. Apuron. If he was not guilty of what he was accused of, then he could have very well calmly and confidently stayed in his place and invited an investigation to clear him. But he did not. He threatened to sue his accusers and then he ran. And then he hid. Remember, he was NOT removed by the pope until he deserted his post and ran to Rome. 

The fact that an apostolic administrator is not still running this diocese in Apuron's absence, but a bishop appointed as coadjutor from somewhere else, is an indication that the pope has already long since judged Apuron and found him guilty - not on the sex abuse accusations, but simply for running. 

Whether or not Apuron will ever avail himself to "the path of repentance and reunion laid open" to him "so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord," is something his fans should be praying about instead of shouting at the rest of us. 

But then these are Kikos, aren't they. 


  1. Kiko's sect takes two teachings from the Sermon on the Mount, "Do not judge." and "Don't resist evil" and twists them in tandem in an exaggerated way in order to shut down discernment among its members. To make them compliant to the demands of the sect's catechists.

    "Do not judge." Read more.
    "Do not resist evil." Read more and more.

  2. Beware of the false prophets....
    Mons. Toso Bishop of Faenza kicks some neocatechumenals asses...


    In questi giorni ho avuto notizia dello svolgimento di una missione in Diocesi da parte di rappresentanti della Comunità Neocatecumenale.

    Premesso che è facoltà del Vescovo ammettere o meno il Cammino Neocatecumenale nella propria diocesi, si precisa che questa Autorità ecclesiastica diocesana non ha autorizzato in alcun modo tale missione popolare.

    Faenza, 19 luglio 2017

    + Mario Toso, vescovo


    1. Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)July 26, 2017 at 4:02 AM

      Below is a loose translation in English from one of my neighbors who speaks Italian. Bravo (!!!) to Bishop Mario Toso, S.D.B., Bishop of Roman Catholic Diocese of Faenza-Modigliana (in the Province of Ravenna, northern Italy along the Adriatic Sea).

      "These days I have been informed of the mission in dioceses by representatives of the Neocatechumenal Community. Since it is the bishop's right to admit the Neocatechumenal Way in his diocese, it should be noted that this ecclesiastical Diocese Authority has in no way authorized such a popular mission."