@ 3:16, see you later and see for yourself those "Tims" that are trying to destroy Guam. It is not just Tim anymore. And you have only yourself to blame for this mess. If you had the balls/honesty to tell AAA the wrongs he had been doing, these "Tims" would have been rendered irrelevant. No. For you, AAA can do no wrong. And that's when it all went wrong. Thank you Tim for keeping the pit burning.
Thanks to Tim for keeping us informed.
Pit continues burning until healing begins we can fight five more years but we will win and reclaim our church from those who stole it. Reckless and callous individuals who damaged our island.
Healing will never begin with people like Tim masquerading around as "concerned Catholics," spewing venomous slander and gossip. Pure evil.
Let's see now, I have actual documents and Adrian in his own words on TV and that's gossip? Tells me how close you guys are to the end.
Healing cannot begin as long as we long as leader of the church and those around him continue to lie to us. We are not stupid....
Anonymous accuses Tim of "masquerading." Get it? Most likely they don't.
TimThe pressure is on for the Archbishop and all his supporters. They have nothing better else to do than attack you and blame you for exposing the Archbishop's decisions on church issues. I know you have heard from countless people praising you for all you have done. Add me to that list. I pray for you and your family but most especially for being brave enough to stand up for what is right! God bless and the church will overcome these obstacles.
Anonymous on January 7, 2015 at 3:16 PM, like many other Catholics here I am bracing myself for the long haul, AND in no way, shape, or form am I keeping silent. Tim sounded the alarm and many responded, not to follow, but to fight the good fight with him. AAA started the fire, now you and your ilk are complaining about getting burned. LOL
Tim, didn't I speak to this parrot earlier? Who let him out of his cage? Tim did you give the Seminary away? Did you lie about financial mismanagement? Did you slander others with lies? Have you started your own religion within the Catholic Church? Do you ordain those who are not properly prepared for the priesthood? Did you hire "credibly alleged child molesters? Do you drive a $70,000 dollar car? Did you take a vow of poverty and forget what it meant? Are you the Shepherd of the Catholic Faithful on Guam but are partial only to the Neo's? "Let the clergy handle their problems"? Because we were so docile for so long, we became the problem. That is exactly what they want us to do. No more!!! If you, Anon 1/7 3:16, are willing to let them run over you while you smile, then get back in the Neo cage with the rest of the parrots and be happy with the crackers or the "breadness" of the cracker they feed you. Leave Tim alone. At least he has the gonads to lead with his name. You hide like the dungi that you are.
Sounds like Zoltan, Tim. The "getting paid" trope gives him away.
I think it's Ernie. He has been on Di's blog lately stating it's always about money....may be Di herself cuz she too has lately responded...it's all about money.
I think tim would tell the archbishop himself if the archbishop wasn't so booked and busy with his neo schedule the blind can now see. if you people at the clergy want this to be over with then just own up, and become the real leaders you say you are. nice know how you see us as the cowards at least we know where we stand, good to see how highly you think of yourselves. you can call us the tims, you can call us the lay people, but for your information we are the firm believers. and we are sick and tired of being taken advantage of so you and your flock can enjoy the fruits of others labor. so to see to where you stand I warn you, that my god is a jealous god. and he will strike down anyone that puts themselves before him. so mind your tone and know your role. because we the catholic people are here to do right by him. AMEN
BECAUSE THATS ALL THEY KNOW. @5:29 NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT WHILE EVERYONE IS MAKING AN HONEST LIVING THEY ARE JUST THERE TO COLLECT EVERY SUNDAY. NOW WHAT DOES THAT TELL OUR CATHOLIC FAMILY???
Correct 6.12pm. We earn an honest living working hard to put food on our tables while these roaches take our money for self interest and bleed our church of finances to eat like kings, drive big cars, travel first class, pay big salaries all in the name of Archbishop Apuron.
Enjoy the fruits of your labor. Spend your hard earned money on your family and friends. This way you know it's not going to waste. Peace.
All Apuron wants is our money to support his lifestyle.
Anonymous January 7, 2015 at 3:16 PM How did he destroy Guam? Tim Rohr is speaking on behalf of MANY Catholics native to this beautiful island. Many of whom are afraid to speak up. I do not know Tim personally, but have admired him and his family as the epitome of a Catholic role model family. I remember attending a daily mass on my lunch break one day and before the mass began as I was walking in to the church, I noticed a man with many children maybe 7 or 8 children that looked similar to each other (you can tell they were siblings) were going to confession one day. What caught my eye was not the rather large amount of kids in this family (completely out of the ordinary in these days), but the fact that these gorgeous little girls were wearing veils on their heads. I've only seen this personally in Latin mass at the friary here on Guam, the holy land and some places in Europe on a Pilgrimage, and at Irondale, Alabama. Tim and his beautiful family have been on this island for many years, helped to educate many on the Catholic faith, defend our faith and defend victims of abortion, to name a few of the magnificent things he has done to assist in preserving the good on our pretty conservative island. He is a Catholic apologist that asks for nothing. Meanwhile, he has become an esteemed member of our church, our community, and he and his lovely wife and children have embraced our culture to be able to relate and become Guamanian. Truth be told he doesn't have to do any of this, we're indebted and so are you. Wake up. Why are you so angry? It's not rocket science, you can clearly see Tim Rohr's posts in large part are facts, evidence, and source citations. Many of the posts refer to canon law or are you skipping those posts? Opinions and emotions are primarily posted in the comment sections. The "drama" comes from the neo riff raffs that come here, I presume for- enlightenment. Why are you really angry? Are you feeling threatened? Or are you ashamed that you're wrong? If you have nothing to hide and know in your heart and deep in your soul that what you guys are doing is right, the true Catholic way, or from God, why would any of this matter to you? Wake up buddy.
Haha, you think tim is a saint. Go follow him. You can find him at the Latin Mass at the friary on sundays or check father eric for him. Tim thinks that the masses at the parish are nonsense. So people don't go to your parishes or any parish at all. Go follow timmy at the friary. He plays the piano there... Maybe he is more educated than any priests or bishop for that matter....
LOL. The piano at the Latin Mass? LOL. Obviously though I am much more educated than you. Thanks for sharing and keeping my blog interesting. Almost to two million.
Oooooo we got a stalker in the house. Go fan change your undies because you sound like you're sweating lmfao. Comments like these counteract with my chamomile tea. What a riot.
TimJanuary 7, 2015 at 10:28 PM your a joke, your stuff is old like you.
When all that’s left for you to is to attack my person, then I know I’ve won. Thanks for the confirmation and for allowing me to waste time from your life.
Lemme guess. Calumny. Persecution. The neo vocabulary. Kalan tide with bleach in their brains. Brainwashed and hung out to dry.
The NCW, in its inherently divisive nature is what is destroying the Catholic Church in Guam, Pius, AAA, Adrian, David are all liars, What do they have in common? NCW. I think you have more problems to be concerned about in these men who are master liars..Just so you know, It is not just Tim that you have to worry about, All Catholics not in the NCW are finally seeing all the deceits, and evil coming out of the NCW, and are standing up to stomp out this cancer from our island..We are making a statement that we do not want it here in Guam...Take Pius, AAA, Adrian, David , Clarios and K-Ass 2 Kim with you and leave...
NCW get the hell out of Guam we do not want you.
AnonymousJanuary 8, 2015 at 5:15 AM it is you who people of Guam don't need because you have hate in your heart. Opps this is a HATE Blog per Archbishop Krebs.
What about Wadeson? Apuron allowed Wadeson free run of Guam.
AnonymousJanuary 7, 2015 at 10:24 PMNo my dear friend in Christ, I do not think Tim is a saint. In fact, one of the best priests here on Guam said in one of his amazing homilies, sometime in 2008 that: "Our church is designed because we're all sinners. Sinners need to go to church, saints are in heaven, and if anyone is a saint they should be in heaven and have a church named after them". I and many Catholics native to Guam, and yes some that come to Jungle Watch do not "follow" Tim. But we, just like him, enjoy practicing our faith the way we and every catholic around the world is taught, by way of the Vatican's and the Pope's instructions according to Catholic doctrine and dogma.
The Catholic Church founded by Christ has been evolving in her understanding of the truths given her by Christ, Folks in the NCW are taught by Prophet Kiko that there was some period in Church history when God gave up control of the Church, The Holy Spirit fell asleep, and the Church was non existant, or gone astray, suddenly Kiko the Great Prophet equal to Christ emerges bearing the truth that only the NCW followers possess, hence the claim that they are "The Way". Sounds very much like the heretics in the early church or protestants of recent centuries..Sorry to pop your bubble, but Christ only is "The Way", The Church and not the NCW is the bearer of the Truth given her by Christ. No Bishop, Priest, Deacon or Person who is not in obedience with the Catholic Church are we to follow. By their fruits are we to tell.. Tim and others in this blog have exposed and substantiated in many ways Liars in the Heirchy. Master Pius, AAA, Adrian, David, Clarios and Kim... They have to Go..
I for one have never heard of the Neo's until I returned home after decades of being away. I checked it out and knew afterwards that it was not for me. I recently returned home to NorCaland joined OLO Guadalupe Church where the organization is unknown. I volunteer after 9:00 am mass on Sundays and can attest to the fact that the division among the members is missing. The Church should be a place of refuge for its people, our Priest is the glue that holdsus together and happy to say I enjoy the OLD TRADITIONS of my Church again that allows meto practice my faith in peace and to devote my time at mass communing with Jesus as intended.
Anon 10:21, You have pointed out something quite important here..Like the Sacraments that our Lord Gives us, It has to be freely received, It is the Holy Spirit that calls us and leads us to the truth. It is not forced upon anyone. It is an initiative of God that requires our free consent and if not opposed produces the efficacious results of God's Grace is us. This is the Catholic Way I was taught..Its quite different with this cult however. Pius the Master Catechist and great Teacher of NCW exposed in this blog has taught us all by his example that the NCW approach to catechesis is, There are certain expectations that are required for one to be a member of this cult, falling short of expectations one is chastized and made an example of, everything and everyone which gets in the way of NCW ritual is an Idol, You must give all that is evil, and detrimental to one's spiritual life, material things (Money, Jewelry, Land) away to the NCW as a sign of freeing one's self from this evil influence (Yah Right! what is not good for us is ok for the NCW?), one must walk the path of Kiko, and all the doctrines and liturigal practices he has revealed (NCW teaches that the Catholic Church's teaching including liturgical practices for 2000 years are wanting and deficient), You must sing spanish, and dance, hug and kiss as signs you are in "The Way". With all this requirement of Man, Are we saying that the working of the Holy Spirit for 2000 years has been lacking or deficient and per Ernie and Diana's blog needs the intervention of Kiko to have the fullness of truth?
Tim, you don't even donate any money to the diocese. You don't even have a parish..Only the Friary on Sundays... Even with that, you don't put money into the collection. So why do you use US?
Ah, yes, more cowards, probably Adrian, or even AAA. Probably AAA. Of course I regularly tithe, but not to you AAA. The Friary? No. I don’t go to the Friary. I attend the Extraordinary Form of the Mass as permitted in Summorum Pontificum, encouraged in fact. Unfortunately there is only one place on this island where it can be found. If it was at my parish then I’d go there. But it is not. And speaking of that, this Form of the Mass was not just to be relegated to some corner of a diocese, it was to be promoted and restored in the name of “continuity” - as per SP’s accompanying letter from the pope to the bishops. You, AAA, like most, have ignored the papal request. And parish? What parish? Run by a neo guy who, because of you, we have to wonder if he is even celebrating the real Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and who we know, privately regularly violates the liturgical books he is required to follow in his secret little neo-eucharists? No thanks. My children deserve better. They deserve Truth.
Anon at 11:19 AM, speaking of donations to the diocese, please tell us why the majority of envelopes at the CB pastoral center remain unclaimed. Why aren't they labeled according to registered parishioners? Ever wonder why times are hard for you guys now? The CB needs some sprucing up. Where are your helpers?
12:02, it's so easy to answer your question. Yes, the envelopes are supposed to be label with the parishioner's name, that was what Mary Kidd was doing when she was working there. The parishioners now no longer want their box of envelopes because many of them have move to attend other parishes. I don't even think they are posting the name and amount those who are still using their envelopes. Every end of the year, some parishioners request for the statement of their donations for tax purposes. I hear its no longer be done. So what else is new at CB? I was told that a lot of envelopes that are put in the baskets every Sunday don't have any $$$ inside. A parishioner herself told me that she drops her envelope without any $$$ inside. She instead goes to either the Friary or St. Jude and that's where she donates and not to CB. She said she waiting for Vice-Rector Coreen Leon Guerrero to call her and ask why her envelopes continues to be empty, she does have an answer for her. She said she was told by insider at CB that (counters) that they will be asked to stop putting empty envelopes into the basket. Rector, Mickey, Vice Rector Coreen & Jackie T don't like empty envelopes, Helpers are all NCW and family members of AAA who are counters of the collections.
I stopped donating to the cathedral when Msgr. Benavente was unjustly ousted and the non-NCW employees unethically fired. When Msgr. Benavente was rector I had total confidence that any money donated would be used appropriately and carefully.
Funny how it was posted at 3:16...For Rev 3:16 says, "So because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold I will spew you out of my mouth." I guess we non neos are doing just that.
As a once upon time counter at the CB, NEVER did I see a bag LABELED..NCW SATURDAY CELEBRATION. Different masses were label, 1st/2nd. Collections. If schools have special ceremonies and had to use the CB, bags were labeled XXX function. WHERE WAS YOUR BAG? Apparently WE PAIDEIA for your power and AC! I guess now you are feeling the pinch! You WILL CONTINUE to feel the pinch. The bottom line is, YOU DO NOT DONATE TO THE PARISHES UNLESS IT BENEFITS THE NCW. You people talk about the jungle being only for themselves...the answer is NO. It it the NCW who are OUTS for themselves.How many times have I heard family members say, oh I can't help I am strapped. When it comes to forking out for the NCW, there is bula salape'. As far as talking about people no donating, your words are worth nothing but a pice of horse shit! Fork it out now and help out! Until the tides have turned, I will be giving nothing but horse shit too!
The NCW only gives to CB when they feel like giving the left overs from the Chancery's Masters! But they used the Cathedral Basilica 4 times a week full blown air conditioners. Before when Msgr James sends out the invoice to the RMS for the usage of CB for an NCW ordination, he was scolded by AAA! Whenr Pale RIchard Kidd was ordained, his family paid for the usage of CB, AAA didn't say anything about the invoice, in fact he was SMILING when the family gave him an envelope with plenty $$$$$$$ inside. Mula $$$$$$$$$$$ talks to AAA! So sad!!!
Ok, I need an education. I really don't see how anyone is making any money here except for the NCW. As the NCW gets more members, they get more donations, sell more from their religious store, etc. There is no money for Tim in a blog. He is not selling ads on the blog. The Archbishop is a Capuchin, so although diocesan priests do not make a promise of poverty, Capuchins take vows of poverty. Thus although the Archbishop should receive a salary from the archdiocese, should not his salary be given to his Guardian in the order or the Provincial? I thought Capuchins were not allowed to own land or other assets. I thought any money donated to the church was for the needs of the church and its ministries. If you donate money directly to a diocesan priest it is his to keep, but money donated to a Capuchin was for the order unless the priest needed it to live.
Apuron was released from both the vows of poverty and obedience when he was made a bishop (at the recommendation of Archbishop Flores - what was he thinking?). However, Apuron's accumulation of property and money is near scandalous. Most of it was accumulated by "gifts", but as we all know, on Guam, "gifts" to the clergy is often "fee for services rendered". And because he is the bishop, his fees are the highest. In fact, he sets them.
My family was told AAA "fee" was $500.
6:48, it's more than $500.00! If you give less that 4 digits $$$$$$, he will not provide his services again. You will be referred to a priest. Money $$$$$$ talks for him. Reliable sources from within his own immediate family said that when he see a "homeless" of course he knows that they will ask for $$$$$, he will go the other door or hide until they leave. This is what makes him SMILE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. You can be a divorced or co-habituating if you have a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, he will allowed to you be god-parent but for others without lots of $$$$$$$$$$, you can not...............! Its against the Catholic rules!! So my dear brothers and sisters in Christ, this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ works for Triple AAA!
Thanks for educating! Perhaps as you near 2 mil hits you should consider placing ads on your blog to help compensate for the time you put into it :) Even if you only make a few dollars supporting a Catholic business, it will sure cause a stir!
Estimated worth of Anthony Apuron is over a million USD
It's only money. AAA is worthless spiritually, the Neo PUPPET that he is!