Tuesday, April 7, 2015

NO BETTER EVIDENCE OF THE FALSEHOODS OF NEO-DOCTRINES THAN THIS



I just read the article in the PDN and I think it important to note that Fr. Zoffoli passed away in 1996, several years before Saint Pope John Paul II had the statutes reviewed by 5 Dicasteries in the Curia and 12 years before the statutes were approved. Additionally, Fr. Zoffoli was a strong GLBT supporter. You decide.

Again we have a classic example, EXHIBIT A, of what Kiko Arguello produces. As expected, not a single point of Zoffoli's is engaged, but he is attacked as a "strong GLBT". (Umm, it's LGBT, btw.)

The commenter also chose to ignore the prefatory remarks in my post where I specifically noted that Zoffoli's analysis was published in 1995, several years before the final versions of the NCW Statute and catechetical directory were approved in 2008 and 2011. 

Also, note how the kiko's completely eliminate any reference to all the revisions and corrections that had to be done to both the Statute and the directory before they could be approved. Like this kiko, they try to give the impression that the Vatican just reviewed their documents and approved them in their original form.

THE VATICAN DID NOT and to say so IS A LIE.

The Vatican severely revised and corrected both the statute and the directory before approving the "final versions." However, the kiko's have chosen to ignore the final and approved versions of both and have continued to trample our church with their abuses and their heresies, even admitting that they are doing so by saying "Rome knows and hasn't stopped us", which is like a little kid saying "well mommy hasn't spanked me yet."

The disregard for the final version of the statute is blatant. The original statute of 2002 is featured on the official NCW website and NOT the corrected and approved version of 2008. There is a reason for this. The kiko's have continued their practice of consuming the consecrated host seated after they were told to eliminate the practice in 2005 and the 2008 statute officially and finally eliminated it. The kiko's don't want their members to know this so they make sure visitors to their site only see the 2002 statute, which permitted the practice. 

The 13-volume catechetical directory was severely revised and to it was added a voluminous compendium of references to the Catechism of the Catholic Church so that members of the Neocatechumenal Way would not be led astray by their catechists. The kiko's responded by keeping the corrected version of the catechetical directory from their members and from everybody else as well, probably because the kiko's are continuing their heretical instruction and do not want to be held accountable.

In fact, we can absolutely assume this because of the product produced by the Redemptoris Mater Seminary. The beliefs and practices of the presbyters who are ordained from RMS are now fully on display in several parishes, and there is no hiding the fact that they were formed and educated in a way that substantiates most if not all of Zoffoli's criticisms.

And now, back to the kiko who left the comment. It's really a prize for us to have this. The comment bears witness that we are absolutely right in rejecting the heretical doctrines and abuses of the Neocatechumenal Way. For NOT ONCE, has any thing presented on this blog ever been countered with documentable evidence to contradict or discredit our own documented evidence. Not once.

Having no argument and having no truth on their side, they attack the messenger. There is no better evidence of the falsity of the Neo-doctrines than this. (And of course there is also the fact that all liars are also cowards, so they never put their name to their statements.)

Continue the fight. STOP THE MONEY. 

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26 comments:

  1. YES TIL THIS DAY NOT ONE VOICE, NOT ONE QUESTION ANSWERED. I BELIEVE, FOR MYSELF, FOR THE SAKE OF MY FAMILIES FUTURE CONTINUE TO STOP THE MONEY. FOR NOW ATLEAST. BUT WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR HE TRUTH. HEY TIM WHATS THE STATUS ON THE REQUEST FROM THE CHEIF OF POLICE? I PRAY THAT CORRUPTION ISN'T THE CASE, BUT IF SO I WILL ALSO PRAY FOR ORDER.

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  2. Don't forget....kiko thinks sexual orientation can be changed. Pius is total homophobe.

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    1. Perhaps there's a better way of stating this. Actually, nothing about our natural selves can be intrinsically changed and Christian grace doesn't purport to do so. What Life in Christ does do is give us the grace to overcome our natures and live sacrificially, that is to say, supernaturally. And whether it be a sacrificial life of voluntary celibacy or sacramental monogamy, Christ, especially through his sacraments, gives us all the grace that is necessary. But you're probably right about Pius being a homophobe.

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    2. Fr.Matthew Blockley.April 7, 2015 at 3:21 PM


      We do not denounce the sexuality of any individual since God creates every child. The life of grace, habitual grace and sanctifying grace works on human nature to live the Christian spiritual life. Grace transforms human nature to allow people to live a spiritual life. I personally found Pius to be lacking in spiritual depth since day one. in those days I was only a young priest but I was street wise enough to know Pius was rather dysfunctional..

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  3. to Anonymous April 7, 2015 at 6:09 AM, I too read, in the event you missed this... READ

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/speeches/2002/september/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20020921_cammino-neocatecumenale.html

    ADDRESS OF JOHN PAUL II
    TO THE PRIESTS AND CATECHISTS OF THE NEOCATECHUMENAL WAY
    Saturday, 21 September 2002

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    1. In 2002 the Statute of the NCW was approved "ad experimentum" for five years, which is why there was a final approval in 2008 after the the revisions, including the excluding of the practice of sitting to receive (consume) the sacred host. The 2008 Statute is the only one that is operative and it requires the neo's to conform to the liturgical books in the matter of their communion rite, the only exception being remaining in their place (standing) and receiving under both species.

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  4. Yes indeed stop the money. I do want to continue to support Junee. He is at Saint Anthonys church for Easter break and may I say what a fine young man he is. Junee gives great talks and I am convinced he will make a great priest. A Tamuning parishioner

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  5. Many homophobes are secretly gay. So if Pius is a homophobe maybe that says something about him. The man doth protest too much...

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    1. 5:24.... Ahhh haaaa!!

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    2. 6.06pm many a truth in a joke.

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  6. Tim, when you say stop the money, is it to the tithe offering that is passed around durng Sunday mass? Or would this just be referring to the annual appeal? If meant for any and all offerings of money, then that's what I'll do. I'm just worried that I'll be disobeying what is written in scripture. Malesso native.

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    1. LOL! What a liar. And a bad one

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    2. Yup...I could see right through that one too!!!

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    3. Who says "tithe offering" anyway? Tithe means offering and an offering of 10%.
      Very few Guam Catholics "tithe." At Santa Barbara people give $1. I know as I take the basket around. No money means no money until the arch answers the questions posed by the CCOG. Want to do something for your parish church? Volunteer your time.
      Eileen Benavente-Blas

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    4. Yep. The use of the word "tithe" was a dead give away that this was a kiko.

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    5. LOL..... GET HIM TIM.....

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  7. Fifth Day "Today bring to me the Souls of those who have separated themselves from My Church",

    and immerse them in the ocean of My mercy. During My bitter Passion they tore at My Body and Heart, that is, My Church. As they return to unity with the Church My wounds heal and in this way they alleviate My Passion."

    Most Merciful Jesus, Goodness Itself, You do not refuse light to those who seek it of You. Receive into the abode of Your Most Compassionate Heart the souls of those who have separated themselves from Your Church. Draw them by Your light into the unity of the Church, and do not let them escape from the abode of Your Most Compassionate Heart; but bring it about that they, too, come to glorify the generosity of Your mercy.

    Eternal Father, turn Your merciful gaze upon the souls of those who have separated themselves from Your Son's Church, who have squandered Your blessings and misused Your graces by obstinately persisting in their errors. Do not look upon their errors, but upon the love of Your own Son and upon His bitter Passion, which He underwent for their sake, since they, too, are enclosed in His Most Compassionate Heart. Bring it about that they also may glorify Your great mercy for endless ages. Amen.

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  8. Tim, is there any published update on the CCA?

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  9. Happy Easter! The Lenten season has come and gone. With God all things are possible. The time for healing must begin with a humble and contrite heart seeking the TRUTH. I challenge everyone to enter into respectful dialogue with each other (do not throw stones & turn the other cheek). It is painful to admit that there is a problem, that we've made mistakes or have failed to question certain statements or practices that are contrary to our perception of Catholicism. DO NOT BE AFRAID. COME AND LISTEN and discuss the issues intellectually, providing evidence to support the argument to a logical conclusion. A faithful Catholic, a soldier for Christ, must defend the Faith for the salvation of all souls, especially those most in need of mercy! St. Michael defend us in battle! St Christopher help us find the way! Come Holy Spirit enlighten our minds and hearts with the flame of you Love!

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  10. Fr.matthew Blockley.April 8, 2015 at 10:21 AM


    Healing can only begin with the removal of Anthony Apuron.

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    1. AHHHHHHH-MENNNNNN

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    2. YES!! REMOVE ANTHONY APURON NOW!! An Apology Tour will not cut it. Let the healing begin!

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    3. Diana gave herself away in her blog "Silence made Sense". She said she helped collect the trash bags at the hotel and eventually accompanied another NEO member to make the payment. There are eyes all over watching...even at the Pacific Star Hotel.

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    4. According to DIANA, left over money from the trash bag is given to the mission families and the itinerants. Now why is money going to the itinerants? Who is the itinerant for Guam....GIUSEPPE GINARINNI.? Probably a multimillionaire by now!


      DianaApril 1, 2015 at 7:31 AM
      Dear Anonymous at 7:16 am,

      God always provide. In all the hotels that we have held our retreats and Easter Vigils, we have never left a debt behind. The hotel bill is always paid due to the generosity of the members. In other words, many of us pay more than what we are required to pay. The bill would be divided up between the number of members attending. Let's say the hotel bill cost $100 per person. Many people in the Way usually give more, and that would take care of those who are unable to pay. If there are any left over money, that usually goes to the New Evangelization for the mission families and itinerants.

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  11. Anthony decided to remain on the Mount of Beatitudes. Self imposed exile. Living like a King. Call me Tony. Hey, Tony, are Luis' faculties restricted over there? Send a postcard we miss you.

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