Friday, July 31, 2015

HE IS TO BE "PITIED"


  1. then of course zoltan backs up Diana in the continued beating of a priest who has been alienated and still without a chance of DEFENDING HIS OWN PERSON. plus seeking transparency and other questions we ask but don't get answers. just plain dumb remarks, from the neo.


    Zoltan July 28, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    Dear Joane, please read the answers for your question by Diana. I only give a few more words.

    1. Hitting a desk with fist is a sign of emotion. It is no proof that it was related any any way to the much later firing of Fr. Paul by the Archbishop. Where is the evidence?

    By the way, I have my own copy of "Target = Priest" from the Agat meeting. It has NO AUTHOR'S NAME printed on it and no publisher's information at all. Another way to say this that this book was written by an anonymous coward who was so afraid of the repercussions that he did not reveal his identity!


    2. For a yes/no question you answer yes or no. 

    3. When I told at the meeting that the Virgin Mary was born without sin, therefore his son Jesus could not have sin either, I received hand clapping and loud expressions of agreement from the audience. It was a bright moment of Christian spirit unifying all believers present. We should hold onto this spirit. It is not true that people got offended because I referred to this Catholic truth. 

    4. Donation to the priest in envelope, outside of the collection basket, is not transparent and not accounted for. 

    5. You are wrong, Joane. Presbyter is just another name for priest.

    6. Yes, devil is in the details, that is why I am compelled to give more and more details about a CCoG meeting I had experienced personally. People should see what is going on at these meetings.

    Fund raising is not illegal. CCoG may give the lawyers as much money, they collect at the villages from the poor, as they want. But how will they explain to them later that their money was wasted on vanity?
ZOLTAN: 1. Hitting a desk with fist is a sign of emotion. It is no proof that it was related any any way to the much later firing of Fr. Paul by the Archbishop. Where is the evidence?

ME: Ummm, where is yours, Zoltan? Shall we take your word over Fr. Paul's? You guys can't even produce the document permitting you to receive communion sitting. Apuron says he's still looking for it. LOL. The fact that Patti Arroyo on her radio show was the first to make the connection, and made it automatically and even casually, shows that it was common knowledge that Fr. Paul was a marked man. Fr. Paul wasn't the first. Other priests had been threatened and canned because they refused to bow to Pius and Cottman. Fr. Paul was just the first to stand up to Apuron.

ZOLTAN: By the way, I have my own copy of "Target = Priest" from the Agat meeting. It has NO AUTHOR'S NAME printed on it and no publisher's information at all. Another way to say this that this book was written by an anonymous coward who was so afraid of the repercussions that he did not reveal his identity!

ME: LOL. It continues to amaze me and many others that UOG actually pays you to be a teacher. What a sad commentary on this university given your apparent lack of intellectual gifts. Let me help you out. The book was available on this website for a whole year before it appeared in print. Look on the right side bar. Oh, never mind. You probably don't know right from left. Here, let me copy it here for you:




Do you see that name at the bottom of the cover. That's my name, Zoltan. In fact, I completely wrote the book on this blog over the course of a whole year. Every chapter was already a blog post.

Also, when I passed out the book at the meeting you came to I referred to it as a book that "I wrote". You said you are hard of hearing. Fine. Maybe you should be "hard of speaking" as well. 

As for no publisher information, ummm, that's because the print version wasn't "published". It was printed by a friend in the Philippines and then sent to me. The printed version left off my name when the cover was rearranged. However, the website on the title page directs the reader directly to my blog where the reader can see the cover as copied above, complete with my name as the author. 

In addition, you personally, more than anyone, have consistently criticized me for using this whole crisis as an opportunity for financial gain by selling my books. LOL. But yet you say that the book was written by an "anonymous coward." LOL. Does UOG have to keep you to fill some sort of quota or something?

ZOLTAN: 3. When I told at the meeting that the Virgin Mary was born without sin, therefore his son Jesus could not have sin either, I received hand clapping and loud expressions of agreement from the audience. It was a bright moment of Christian spirit unifying all believers present. We should hold onto this spirit. It is not true that people got offended because I referred to this Catholic truth. 

ME: I addressed this before. The people weren't clapping for you or expressing loud expressions of agreement. They were revolting in noise because you had just contradicted the recording they had just heard with the priest teaching diaconate candidates (of whom Adrian is the director) that Jesus is a Sinner. In other words, you had just insulted their intelligence. 

How funny you believe this was a "bright moment" of Christian unity when in fact you clearly demonstrated to everyone there why such heresies are rife within your movement and a dark moment of Christian division. 

Oh, and one more thing Zoltan, you really ought to check with Diana more before you speak. Jesus was NOT a sinner NOT because his mother was sinless, BUT BECAUSE HE IS GOD. In fact, it was because JESUS IS GOD, that his mother was sinless, NOT - as you "teach" - the other way around. But being on a steady diet of Kiko-KAKA, you can be excused from not knowing that.

ZOLTAN: 4. Donation to the priest in envelope, outside of the collection basket, is not transparent and not accounted for. 

ME: LOL. Like your neo-trash bag is! The NCW sets the standard in unaccounted for funds and here we have Zoltan the "professor" lecturing us on accounting. Money given to clergy for their personal services is the responsibility of those clergy to report as income on their tax returns. It is not their responsibility to report to YOU or account for it in any other way. Geez. Really? Still can't get over they let people like you teach our children.

ZOLTAN: 5. You are wrong, Joane. Presbyter is just another name for priest.

Actually, Zoltan, you are wrong. Presbyter is not just another word for priest. In Kiko-land, the use of it is to the exclusion of the word "priest". Why is this? Because a "priest" is "one who offers sacrifice", and we all know now that Kiko eschews the idea that the Mass is a "sacrifice", thus he must rid the usage of "priest". But there's more. In 1997, the Vatican specifically forbid the use of the word "presbyter" in place of "priest":
Prominent among the problems is the decision of the translators to break with common Catholic usage and translate the Latin "presbyteri" into English not with "priests" but with "presbyters". This cannot meet with the Holy See's consent since it risks being misunderstood by the people and represents an unacceptable theological tendency. In particular it constitutes a retreat from a term that carries a sense of sacrality, that carries with it the history of the development of the faith in favor of a term which does not. 
Letter from the Congregation for Divine Worship to the president of the NCCB on the defects of the Ordination Rite, Prot. 760/96/L, 761/96/L, 20 September 1997 
For more on Kiko's attempt to overthrow the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass read THE PRESBYTER CONSPIRACY.

ZOLTAN: 6. Yes, devil is in the details, that is why I am compelled to give more and more details about a CCoG meeting I had experienced personally. People should see what is going on at these meetings.

ME: Cool. Thanks for the ad. Where were you last night? I would have given you the floor. You could do more in 5 minutes to warn people about the debilitating effects of eating KIKO-KAKA than I could in 5 hours, days, years. Try not to miss the next meeting, Zoltan.

ZOLTAN: Fund raising is not illegal. CCoG may give the lawyers as much money, they collect at the villages from the poor, as they want. But how will they explain to them later that their money was wasted on vanity?

ME: Ah, yes. You save the best for last. Once again famously insulting the intelligence of us poor "regular" Catholics. We don't know where to give our money unless you tell us. Yet, you have no problem with Apuron lying to us for 15 years about the true mission of RMS after we were bilked for millions to support it and then Apuron gives it away forever. 

Someone was right. You are to be "pitied" rather than "criticized". But count on me to do both whenever you give me the chance. 




4 comments:

  1. Zoltan the bullshitter.

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  2. Threatening again Tim , high blood pressure, don't have a Zoltan attack or Arch attack :(

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    1. Not at all. Having fun. Using Zoltan to educate. No better specimen.

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  3. Ha! Ha! Ha! Indeed a representative specimen of neo-minds. Such a sorry individual Zoltan turns out to be. Why do they get so warped this way? Now that his movement is being dissected, they turn out to be all show and no substance. To be pitied, really.

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