Those people who continue to seek explanations and reasons as to the question "why just now?" This question are a direct insult to the victims who have experienced the abuse at the hands of an authority that they themselves said was a father figure, a position that they respected and wished to emulate, a man who ascended to the highest authority in the catholic church in Guam, and an office that is the direct successor of the apostles. It is a continued assault to their integrity and honesty and perpetuates the response of Apuron, that he is the victim, and these men are liars. Has not countless evidence been provided in this blog that Apuron has lied and been deceitful in other matters and not a person of integrity? a person who has violated the trust of his authority as Shepherd and leader of the Church of Christ in Guam? If he is dishonest and deceitful in small matters how do you think he will be in greater matters? Did his traits of being deceitful and dishonest just happen overnight? What is the probability that this is inherent in his person and has been for sooooooo long? What credibility should we have in his opinion that he is the victim?
Why did Moses and his people wonder in the desert for 40 years? because of their transgression. The People of God eventually came out of the desert and transgression and into the Promise Land.
Today people are asking 'why these men are just 'coming out' after 40 years', but people are asking the wrong question, it's not these men who are at fault, it is the perpetrator, and it's now 40 years after and time to come out and be free of his transgression so that he be saved. You would think 40 years will muddle the mind and history, but in fact 40 years is the perfect time that God has chosen to reveal all things with clarity! Woe to you who corrupt the innocent.
Since "Common Sense" is Dead and Gone, it is very hard for people now-a-days to understand why it took the victims so long to come out and admit that the "Most Powerful Person in Our Catholic Church" did this to them. Maybe if we ask them - At the age and time that the victims were abused, would you have come right out and admit what happened? Especially if you think that you are the only one that it happened to?
There was an comment in the Pacific Daily News from someone who wrote: "who do you believe? 4 maybe 6 all saying they were molested by Father Tony.....does majority counts as guilty? In the court of law, you must show proof of a /any charge. Was there any proof to all those who claims they were molested? Do they have any witness(es)? Pictures? DNA? I hear there maybe 2 more to come forward. I say, don't. Keep you life focus with what you have and continue to pray. If majority counts, the 4 will do for whatever all those who wants the Bishop out. Those people who talked these 4 men to come out are not the type of people you want on your side. Do not trust them!"
What got me is his question - Was there any proof to all who claims they were molested? Do they have any witness(es)? Pictures? DNA?
The abuses happened almost FORTY - 40 - YEARS AGO AND THE VICTIMS WERE VERY YOUNG CHILDREN! WITNESSES - PICTURES - DNA? ARE YOU SERIOUS? The incidents happened when the boys were staying at Apuron's House of Horrors so How the H_ll can there be any WITNESSES? I supposed they should have carried a camera because they knew they were going to be molested so they can take PICTURES - Wait Father Tony - let me set up my camera so I can take pictures! And the Best One of All - DNA! DNA was not developed and perfected until almost 20 years later and You Want DNA?
The writer must be very young, uneducated, and not very well versed in reading to understand. That is why I did not include his name. Too much TV for this young man and not enough book reading! I am praying that he gets him more education to really understand what is going on correctly. So Sad in My Book!
AnonymousJune 21, 2016 at 9:53 PM - Can you imagine your son saying this to you knowing that he will never explain it completely because he died before he could! And for some people to call him and his mother "Lairs"? Things come to those who wait and "WE ARE WAITING ARCHBISHOP HON!"
To the person who doubts the testimonies against Apuron abd requires photos, DNA, and other tangible proofs, you are a moron along with your neo cultists! Your comments are so laughable that they deserve several dialogue lines in the upcoming blockbuster movie on NCW Gaffes and Stumbles. I really think someone should write a collection of the outlandish claims and comments that these neomorons have shared with Jungle Watch and elsewhere. It will make worthwhile coffee-table book of endless entertainments on a boring day. Suggested titles: Your Daily Orange Squeeze, The Kaka Juice, DianaRants, The Stinks of Pius, Apuron-AMoron, The Kiko Fruits...oh what fun we can have in suggesting titles!
These victims were traumatized and didn't know who to turn to. I can imagine what was going through their minds and asking the question "what just happened to me)? Molestation is something that can be kept a secret for a long time. Coming out now is a way to heal and taking that big load of their shoulder. So stop asking why just now! I'm proud of them.
5:39, based on your description of the writer, it appears you are referring to someone attending the RMS seminary in Yona. They can't even spell NEO...
This is straight out of the NCW/Pius modus operandi. Never forget. DENY,DEFLECT, DESTROY.
Victims come forward:
Apuron....Deny, deny, deny Dungbat and sect members: Deflect.... Its a conspirency, they want money, why now?????
Destroy: liars, most likely not true, Flow of garbage against the victims....
Very simple, almost simplistic....but efficient in trying to divide the public opinion, rally the neos ( persecution Says I), plant the seed of doubt.....
The Neocatechumenal Way is one of the biggest SCAM and CONSPIRACY ever! For an organization that claims it's not allowed to own worldly possessions it sure has meeellions and meeellions, maybe even beellions worth of properties worldwide. Not counting the trash bags upon trash bags of moneee they bilked from their zombie followers.
There are some key NEO members who are teachers. Why don't you help your fellow educator, May Llanes, and those RMS seminarians. BTW, where is Evi? Hope he is not spending "quality" time with your kids. Of that's right, "Innocent until proven guilty". Wake up NEO members, these people are taking you for a ride.
So you really think that the NEO members who are teachers are going to help their "Fellow Educator"? They are all in the same mind-set, not just as verbal as the "Know It All" - "What I Say is the Truth" (well - after checking with "Google") Diana/Mae! It is a very suggestion though!
Those people who continue to seek explanations and reasons as to the question "why just now?" This question are a direct insult to the victims who have experienced the abuse at the hands of an authority that they themselves said was a father figure, a position that they respected and wished to emulate, a man who ascended to the highest authority in the catholic church in Guam, and an office that is the direct successor of the apostles. It is a continued assault to their integrity and honesty and perpetuates the response of Apuron, that he is the victim, and these men are liars. Has not countless evidence been provided in this blog that Apuron has lied and been deceitful in other matters and not a person of integrity? a person who has violated the trust of his authority as Shepherd and leader of the Church of Christ in Guam? If he is dishonest and deceitful in small matters how do you think he will be in greater matters? Did his traits of being deceitful and dishonest just happen overnight? What is the probability that this is inherent in his person and has been for sooooooo long? What credibility should we have in his opinion that he is the victim?
ReplyDeleteWhy did Moses and his people wonder in the desert for 40 years? because of their transgression. The People of God eventually came out of the desert and transgression and into the Promise Land.
ReplyDeleteToday people are asking 'why these men are just 'coming out' after 40 years', but people are asking the wrong question, it's not these men who are at fault, it is the perpetrator, and it's now 40 years after and time to come out and be free of his transgression so that he be saved.
You would think 40 years will muddle the mind and history, but in fact 40 years is the perfect time that God has chosen to reveal all things with clarity! Woe to you who corrupt the innocent.
Great analogy. Why do you find it so difficult to let us know who you are?
DeleteSince "Common Sense" is Dead and Gone, it is very hard for people now-a-days to understand why it took the victims so long to come out and admit that the "Most Powerful Person in Our Catholic Church" did this to them. Maybe if we ask them - At the age and time that the victims were abused, would you have come right out and admit what happened? Especially if you think that you are the only one that it happened to?
ReplyDeleteOr that it was your fault that this happened to you? Remember what the dying Sonny asked of his mom: mom, am I the Devil's son?
DeleteThere was an comment in the Pacific Daily News from someone who wrote: "who do you believe? 4 maybe 6 all saying they were molested by Father Tony.....does majority counts as guilty? In the court of law, you must show proof of a /any charge. Was there any proof to all those who claims they were molested? Do they have any witness(es)? Pictures? DNA? I hear there maybe 2 more to come forward. I say, don't. Keep you life focus with what you have and continue to pray. If majority counts, the 4 will do for whatever all those who wants the Bishop out. Those people who talked these 4 men to come out are not the type of people you want on your side. Do not trust them!"
DeleteWhat got me is his question - Was there any proof to all who claims they were molested? Do they have any witness(es)? Pictures? DNA?
The abuses happened almost FORTY - 40 - YEARS AGO AND THE VICTIMS WERE VERY YOUNG CHILDREN! WITNESSES - PICTURES - DNA? ARE YOU SERIOUS? The incidents happened when the boys were staying at Apuron's House of Horrors so How the H_ll can there be any WITNESSES? I supposed they should have carried a camera because they knew they were going to be molested so they can take PICTURES - Wait Father Tony - let me set up my camera so I can take pictures! And the Best One of All - DNA! DNA was not developed and perfected until almost 20 years later and You Want DNA?
The writer must be very young, uneducated, and not very well versed in reading to understand. That is why I did not include his name. Too much TV for this young man and not enough book reading! I am praying that he gets him more education to really understand what is going on correctly. So Sad in My Book!
AnonymousJune 21, 2016 at 9:53 PM - Can you imagine your son saying this to you knowing that he will never explain it completely because he died before he could! And for some people to call him and his mother "Lairs"? Things come to those who wait and "WE ARE WAITING ARCHBISHOP HON!"
DeleteTo the person who doubts the testimonies against Apuron abd requires photos, DNA, and other tangible proofs, you are a moron along with your neo cultists! Your comments are so laughable that they deserve several dialogue lines in the upcoming blockbuster movie on NCW Gaffes and Stumbles. I really think someone should write a collection of the outlandish claims and comments that these neomorons have shared with Jungle Watch and elsewhere. It will make worthwhile coffee-table book of endless entertainments on a boring day. Suggested titles: Your Daily Orange Squeeze, The Kaka Juice, DianaRants, The Stinks of Pius, Apuron-AMoron, The Kiko Fruits...oh what fun we can have in suggesting titles!
DeleteThese victims were traumatized and didn't know who to turn to. I can imagine what was going through their minds and asking the question "what just happened to me)? Molestation is something that can be kept a secret for a long time. Coming out now is a way to heal and taking that big load of their shoulder. So stop asking why just now! I'm proud of them.
Delete5:39, based on your description of the writer, it appears you are referring to someone attending the RMS seminary in Yona. They can't even spell NEO...
ReplyDeleteThis is straight out of the NCW/Pius modus operandi.
ReplyDeleteNever forget.
DENY,DEFLECT, DESTROY.
Victims come forward:
Apuron....Deny, deny, deny
Dungbat and sect members: Deflect....
Its a conspirency, they want money, why now?????
Destroy: liars, most likely not true,
Flow of garbage against the victims....
Very simple, almost simplistic....but efficient in trying to divide the public opinion, rally the neos ( persecution Says I), plant the seed of doubt.....
In other words: Satan himself at work...
The Neocatechumenal Way is one of the biggest SCAM and CONSPIRACY ever! For an organization that claims it's not allowed to own worldly possessions it sure has meeellions and meeellions, maybe even beellions worth of properties worldwide. Not counting the trash bags upon trash bags of moneee they bilked from their zombie followers.
DeleteThere are some key NEO members who are teachers. Why don't you help your fellow educator, May Llanes, and those RMS seminarians. BTW, where is Evi? Hope he is not spending "quality" time with your kids. Of that's right, "Innocent until proven guilty". Wake up NEO members, these people are taking you for a ride.
ReplyDeleteSo you really think that the NEO members who are teachers are going to help their "Fellow Educator"? They are all in the same mind-set, not just as verbal as the "Know It All" - "What I Say is the Truth" (well - after checking with "Google") Diana/Mae! It is a very suggestion though!
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