Sunday, July 10, 2016

I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO THINK ABOUT THIS

I don't know Fr. Joel de los Reyes. So I have to wonder who he is aiming at in the underlined section below:


42 comments:

  1. Fr. Joel is a shallow priest who likes getting money and hugging women so long that they become uncomfortable. Don't take his words very seriously.

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  2. Joel means CCOG and LFM as well as all others who oppose apuron and the neos. He's a giant bum kisser! He uses Mass to show his great support for that pedoApuron and to fundraise. Literally stands at the altar and asks for money over and over again. Stay vigilant. There are a lot of lovers of pedoApuron!

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    1. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaJuly 10, 2016 at 9:10 PM

      Anonymous at 4:33 PM, while I don't recall hearing Fr. Joel asking for money, I do remember how he somehow managed to turn every one of his homilies into infomercials about his Divine Mercy Pilgrimages mentioned by Anonymous at 5:26 PM below.

      As one of the Filipino priests who, according to the 2013 Archdiocese of Agaña Directory, is not incardinated in the archdiocese, it's no surprise to me that Fr. Joel would be supportive of Anthony Sablan Apuron. However, I can't help wondering whether or not Fr. Joel recognizes the "pride and stubbornness" demonstrated by Apuron toward his victims — or are those negative attributes only applicable to the opponents of Apuron?

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    2. And, boy, does he CHARGE for MASSES. Disgusting. Joel. Already kissing Hons backside. That didn't take long.

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    3. Joel will kiss the ass of anyone who he thinks will help support his business. Yes, he so believes in himself that he thinks we like his hideous accent, and his love for money disguised as Divine Mercy devotion. Oh boy!

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    4. He is not a suck up but obedient. Start your own church already. Call it Rohr White church. LOL!

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    5. Yes. Obedient. Look the other way while I rape this child.

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    6. The RW LOL....3:32 PM

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  3. Joel is very loyal to Apuron. Unfortunately, he too has a past that perhaps Apuron is aware. A few people in the Divine mercy group know about his skeletons in the closet.

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  4. Didn't Walter try to do just that by approaching Hon on the steps of Cathedral? Hon tured his back on him.

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  5. Fr. Joel, better known as the Divine Mercy Priest, has his regular weekly column in the Umatuna which focuses on his preaching about Divine Metcy in terms of how a devotion to the Divine Mercy can be applied to our Christian lives. From what I can gather, hardly anyone reads his column as he usually repeats himself. However, he is loyal to Apuron who allows him free rein with his Devine Mercy ministry which involves frequent off-island trips on pilgrimages. He's a priest assigned to the Santa Barbara Parish in Dededo and is often criticized for not pulling his fair share load of priestly duties. It's too bad that he doesn't apply Divine Mercy to Apuron and his mlolestation victims.

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    1. didn't Fr.Joel come from Barrigada under Adrian in the earlier 2000.

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    2. Did everything NEO on Guam start in Barrigada under Cristobal? That is My Village and, if this is true, God has Your Number Adrian Cristobal! You alone destroyed one of the most Beautiful Churches on Guam! Shame on You!

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  6. I'd rather be called stubborn than CHILD MOLESTER or PERVERT. Yes Apuron, you're both! Joel is just another Apuron ass kisser. Never paid attention to what he says or writes. He's just another Sip Sip.

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  7. Ferdinand Marcos.

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    1. Ma,ma,ma,ma,Marcos.

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  8. If opposing means giving Fr. Gofigan and Mnsr Benavente due process; addressing ASA's abuse and sexual assault accusations and reaching out to victims; investigating Asa's illegal giving away of church property without getting Rome's approval and continued protection of Asa and not looking for someone to replace Asa as he has lost all the trust he may have; then so be i!!!

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  9. I think he was saying in general... But if it hits a baaaad chord w you... Then message is for you...

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    1. Then you confirm my suspicions. He was aiming at those of us who are standing up against the evils in the archdiocese. The question is why does he want us to shut up and sit down? Apuron had protection. A lot of it. There is a reason.

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  10. Who is my neighbor, Father Joel?

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  11. fr Joels message are to all christians affected by his message...

    -alex

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  12. Father Joel is a good man. I know him personally from Cursillo and only wishes the best for everyone!! Stop making assumptions and creating more problems for this already divided church. Focus on AA and what he has done, rather than blaming everyone

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    1. I agree with Anonymous July 10 at 8:45. I also know Fr. Joel from Cursillo where he has been involved as spiritual advisor. He also writes a column for the Umatuna, and he is involved in the Divine Mercy devotion. The man has a lot of energy. If we cast the net too wide like a Robespierre or Senator Joe McCarthy, we will lose focus on Archbishop Apron.

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  13. I've notice that every couple of months he (Fr. Joel) has a group going on a tour. All these clergy that abuse their "religious vows" at the expense of the people of Guam. It just like the a government worker who abuse & steals from the government because no one is watching.
    Another example is the Catholic Schools that charge so much for tuition. No one audits their books, they did away w/PTA. So every yr the tuition goes up. They allowed them to create a "President" so they continue to collect salaries, but don't work.

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  14. TIM, not a reply but a subject of interest:
    http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/watch-the-full-show-the-downloadrestoring-the-liturgy

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  15. someone tell Reyes that next Archbishop will inherit all the damage done by Apuron and Neo's, including legal actions

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  16. A former member of the Divine Mercy group told me that she and several others were kicked out of the DM group by Fr Joel and a Rose Marcos. Since then they renamed the organization "Gaudete" The reason they were kicked out of the group was because they were "questioning" so much.

    Every December the last few years, Fr Joel brings a group from the PI to perform at SBCC. Each time this group comes to perform, Apuron shows up and does his solo performance. Several people wondered about the money that was raised for this concert, it is always advertised in support of Fr Joel's ministry.

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    1. Hmmm, 7:27 AM is on to something, it is getting warmer. Fr. Joel's Ministry, HAH! It is to funnel perceived altruistic project to his own bank account. As for a prim Rose, oh well...

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  17. I will keep my comments about Fr. Joel to myself for now. In the meantime our focus should remain on apuron, Hon and the idiots that are still in power on the hill. Don't lose focus. Laiacize apuron!

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  18. Let’s be clear. This is NOT just about Apuron. This is about attacking a cancer that has rotted out the core of our church and given rise, protection, power and cover to monsters like Apuron. He did NOT act in isolation but in consort with a host of enablers, both lay and clergy.

    If you have viewed any of the videos posted elsewhere about the whole history of clergy sex abuse in the church, one thing is clear: this travesty was NOT perpetrated by a few deranged perverts with collars. This was an a fully organized machine, from the cultivation of young victims, to their being fed as fresh meat to the perverted monsters, to the well-oiled machine that protected both the monsters and their protectors, and all the way up to the highest halls of power in the Vatican and down into organizations like the Neocatechumenal Way which has shown itself to be the last hiding place for priests who must be kept hidden - as they are now doing with Apuron.

    Locally, that machine was in full action mode for nearly 40 years if not longer. The key cogs in the machine were other clerics who in return for protection, asylum, economic advancement, freedom to come and go as they pleased, and sometimes cover for their own double lives, protected and covered Apuron, which (NOW PAY ATETTENTION) is the NUMBER ONE REASON NOT A SINGLE priest personally reached out to Roy, Doris, Walter or Roland.

    DO NOT BE SHORTSIGHTED about this. Some of our supporters are so ravenous to “get their church back” - which essentially means being restored to their own personal positions of power and prominence, that they are not willing to engage the real ROT at its core which is a lot more painful than just dumping on the easy to disdain Apuron.

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    1. Yes Tim, the ROT started long time ago. There are families here who are decendants of Spanish missionaries. Back then, people couldn't fight back and had no recourse so they had to live with the harsh realities of life. Fast forward to the present, people are speaking out and saying STOP THE ABUSES!
      I have stated in some of my earlier posts that the clergy have skeletons in their closet, and it make perfect sense why not one of them have stepped forward and consoled the victims and/or made a statement in their support. Then of course we have the wannabe "Apuron's" among the clergy who want to have the same trappings and lifestyle as brother Tony. I hope these wannabes get that message that we don't want anymore of their shenanigans. And yes, priests having double lives haven't fooled anyone. This is a small, tightly-knit community and we know of priests from the Philippines going undercover to bars here, just like the times Tony went to San Francisco. Call me Tony!

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    2. Was a certain button pressed? People don't want to speak about Divine Mercy priest?? Hmmm. Rose, why are YOU kicking people out. ??

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    3. You may be right about THE reason not a single priest reached out to Roy, Doris, Walter or Roland. There may also be a mix of reasons. For instance, when your boss is in trouble, some employees, especially newer ones, might not quite know what to make of it, as they are in shock. Others may have feared the archbishop's power to remove priests from assignments, and they thought cautionary inaction the better course. I am not approving such actions; I am only stating these not unlikely motivations may also be in play.

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    4. A rose has to be the most beautiful among them all, any competition from the female species must be squashed so she remains the beloved of all.

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    5. The possibility of fear on the part of priests has already been noted several times elsewhere. But fear of what? Certainly not fear of God.

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    6. What is there to fear? If you believe that God is right there with you, you should be able to stand up to whatever is not right! Are you not supposed to help those that are in need of healing? Isn't that is why you joined the Catholic Church? To help those who have been wrong? No Wonder Our Catholic Churches have been the "Bunt of Many Jokes! My God - I am adding to my prayers every morning that you help those Priests who are still on the sidelines. Help them to do what you had your disciples to do! Stand Up for the One and Only Catholic Church, especially on My Island of Guam!

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    7. I don't have the guts to put down my name and that's why I never preach to anybody about courage or standing up for what is right. Maybe it's time you stop being a hypocrite! Put down your name anonymous @ 4:32.

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    8. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaJuly 12, 2016 at 9:23 AM

      You're absolutely right, Tim at 1:13 AM. The "fear" that has kept priests from saying and/or doing anything is the same "fear" that prevented members of the laity from signing the 2013 petition addressed to Anthony Sablan Apuron requesting him to restore Fr. Paul Gofigan as pastor of SBCC — the laity were afraid that "Archbishop Apuron will get mad."

      The "fear of Apuron" continued to paralyze the laity. Had it not been for JungleWatch, we might have remained paralyzed. While this blog began as a means of documenting Apuron's unjust treatment of Fr. Paul with a handful of page views each day back in 2013, it has become so much more, thanks to all you have done for the past 3 years.

      Thanks to your courageous stance as well as your repeated message that we the laity have the power to effect change, you can see that more members of the Church Militant are taking steps to overcome their "fear of Apuron."

      The Concerned Catholics of Guam (CCOG) first entered our consciousness in July 2014, one year after JungleWatch came into being. Back then nobody knew who CCOG was. All we knew was that they wanted financial transparency from the Archdiocese of Agana. I firmly believe that without JungleWatch there would be no CCOG … or if that small group had managed to come together, it would not have been able to accomplish as much as it has thanks to you and JungleWatch. The faceless group of individuals calling themselves CCOG who had financed the July 2014 ad in the newspaper eventually revealed themselves. These were people with names and faces — Greg Perez, Dave Sablan, Vangie Lujan and Deacon Steve Martinez (who was replaced by Gerry Taitano) — who began to hold weekly village meetings in February 2015 to educate Catholics about the real threat the NCW posed to our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. You were an integral part of those early meetings, Tim, modeling how to organize and present wealth of the informational those in attendance.
      BTW: You haven't been attending the recent CCOG village meetings but I think you should know that the information you used to present by yourself is now being disseminated by several key members. You left huge shoes to fill after laying the foundation of how to effectively educate our fellow Catholics.

      To be continued …

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    9. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaJuly 12, 2016 at 9:24 AM

      Continuation …

      In March 2015 during the Q & A session at the 6th CCOG meeting in Yigo, the seeds of the Laity Forward Movement (LFM) were planted. It started with Teri Untalan stating her intention to pray the Rosary daily outside the chancery gate as her Lenten Sacrifice. A small group of people would occasionally join her. But rain or shine, Teri prayed in full view of those entering and exiting the chancery. Eventually Teri and her group relocated to the steps of the Cathedral-Basilica to pray the Rosary daily.
      That small handful of people praying the Rosary was motivated to "do more," leading to motorcades, prayer sessions on the steps of the Cathedral-Basilica, silent protests on Sunday mornings across the street during 0930 Mass, as well as the infamous 2016 "airport reception" of the Gennarinis. The LFM now leads weekly picketing on Sunday mornings 0900-0945 in front of the Cathedral-Basilica. We started our picketing with signs that read "RESIGN Apuron but now the signs demand that Rome "DEFROCK Apuron." Before I forget — thank you for continuing to post photos of the LFM activities (even if the media doesn't pay attention to us anymore).

      Since last year the laity have wanted our clergy to lead us in battle. But we were told that the clergy couldn't do anything because of their "Vow of Obedience." One priest told me that we the laity had to be on the front lines while priests and religious needed to stay in the background, supporting us with prayers. You constantly reminded us that we weren't bound by the same vow of obedience and that we could take action without the clergy. We're slow learners, Tim — thank you for your patience and for consistently encouraging us. We are now engaged in conscious active participation to preserve our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

      While more members of the laity are starting to overcome their "fear of Apuron" and are coming forward as active Church Militants, that would not have happened without you and JungleWatch, Tim. The work you have done to expose the sexual abuse in the archdiocese has made THE Difference to many of those who had remained on the sidelines or, even worse, were apathetic about the NCW-related issues (liturgical abuse, heretical teachings, RMS scam, among others). They felt they could be Silent No More, even if their only "voice" was their presence on the picketing line, carrying signs.

      Unfortunately the "fear of Apuron" among our clergy is greater than the Fear of God and has kept the priests from joining us and/or, preferably, leading us in this Spiritual Combat. But we shall continue to fight.

      Thank you for your example of how to Walk the Talk, Tim.
      Thank you for JungleWatch (with its 500,000,000+ page views) … from which came CCOG … from which came LFM.
      Thank you for helping the laity to overcome the "fear of Apuron," even if our priests who are tasked with being our spiritual leaders are still paralyzed by the "fear of Apuron" instead of being emboldened by the Fear of God.
      Thank you and God bless you, Tim!

      St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle …
      St. Athanasius, pray for us!

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    10. Beautiful synopsis, Mary Lou. I add my thanks with yours and many others to Tim for his courageous work.

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  19. Some of you may have noticed that your comments are not appearing here. If the scandalous stuff is really true it won't do any good to put it here. You need to put it on paper and make sure Archbishops Krebs and Hon get copies.

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