In the Archdiocese of Agana, one gets rewarded for disobedience. But Adrian was more that "disobedient." He committed crimes against the faithful. Time to pursue that law suit. Nice start Byrnes.
I'll state again that while Byrnes approved it, it was not Byrnes' idea. This has nothing to do with disciplining Adrian, and in fact, despite my inference, it has nothing to do with rewarding him either. This has everything to do with getting him away from the upcoming law suits where he can and will be made to talk. While he cannot escape the law, his handlers are hoping out of sight out of mind. Too late.
Filoni Baloney seems to not be aware of 28 U.S. Code § 1783(a) – “A court of the United States may order the issuance of a subpoena requiring the appearance as a witness before it, or before a person or body designated by it, of a national or resident of the United States who is in a foreign country ...” If there is a similar statute/code at the local level on Guam, then Ottowa, Canada is not a far enough place for Presbyter Adrian to be stashed.
With Abp Byrnes 'approving' Adrian's canon law stash-him-away to Canada assignment, and Filoni Baloney commanding this "assignment" for the purpose of making Adrian unavailable to the child sexual abuse lawsuits ... there continues the "aiding" and "abetting" and the "cover-uping." Will the clergy every learn?
Could it be this "assignment" of Adrian to Canada to study Canon Law was suggested by Adrian, offering to go at his own expense? And Byrnes accepted the suggestion, seeing it as a quiet way of getting rid of Adrian? I have no facts to support this theory. I'm just trying to understand Byrnes, giving him a little slack.
Really? What a damn joke. They should disavow Adrian. What a cry baby and a stinking idiot. Idk what archbishop Byrnes was thinking when he allowed Adrian to pursue canon law. What a waste of money.
Wow. To think that he can get away with everything he's done.. AND WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT!? Drain the diocese dry! STOP THE MONEY! We all know that justice will never be served if we leave it to Filoni's puppet.
I pity you AnonDec31,@2:41. You Neocat's evangelize, though you sound empty without Jesus? Kyrie Eleison. Archbishop Byrnes will do what!
AnonymousDecember 31, 2016 at 2:41 PM The destructive nature of JW will be exposed even more in 2017. Archbishop Byrnes will be back and will take over the leadership of the archdiocese permanently. He will surely put a muzzle on the enemies of the church whose only interest is destabilization, distortion and destruction.
Wow. . ! Where's the justice in this? And to add salt to the wound, I bet we, the Catholic faithful on Guam, are going to pay for his education!!! Talk about being screwed again. . . Come on Archbishop Byrnes. Talk to the Laity who know the screw-ups in this Archdiocese of Agana. Not all your priests know what's going on. Many have been complacent and generally lazy. Because Apuron never really cared about the parishes, the pastors all went AWOL. In spite of all these corruption at the highest level of our Chancery, the Laity persevered. We need a true leader in this Archdiocese to take swift action and punish these priests who abused their authority. You're the one to take care of this. Why did you award Adrian? Some may say good riddance, but I say--and I believe the vast majority of the Faithful are asking, "What is going on here?!". We are questioning your judgment and whether you really want to heal this Church on Guam. Or are you another puppet Archbishop for Filoni in Rome. We know he is running roughshod over you, but stand your ground, Archbishop. He is not your boss!
Sorry, but I have to disagree about adrian being "rewarded". Sending adrian off island to "continue" his studies in Canon Law may be a blessing in disguise. "Canon Law sets forth the manner in which members of the church are to conduct themselves not only in their relationship and interaction with the church but in their personal and civic lives as well". Catholic Not Neo -(cannot figure out how to post my name on here) Matt Macias - Barrigada
Getting rid of Adrian in any way shape or form is a blessing. However, a simple sabbatical would do if not finding another bishop who would take him. But sending him off to "continue his canon law studies" is a slap in our faces, not from Adrian, but from Byrnes.
First, Adrian announced that he was rejecting Hon's reassignment to Umatac and that he was studying Canon law to justify his rejection. So this "continuing" his studies is apparently an extension of this. LOL.
Second, Adrian isn't just a problem priest, he was at the center of everything evil in this diocese, and through his many lies, committed crimes against the people.
Third, we are being made to pay for this bullshit even while the chancery is shutting down other services and now taxing the schools to pay its bills. You'll hear about that soon.
It's bad enough that our masses are not as well-attended as they used to be (and THAT is an understatement!). Now, if the Archdiocese starts to tax the schools, we will see an exodus to public schools very shortly after.
Right now, many of us still want to give Byrnes the benefit of the doubt. But Byrnes is working hard to reduce all doubt that he doesn't know what he's doing.
I warned people before Christmas. This option while removing Adrian from the island is NOT a blessing in disguise. This evil individual gets away with murder. He is sent away at your own dime and is not being held responsible for any of his misdeeds. This will be read by the Neos as an endorsement of their evil ways
Will Byrnes pay for Ardian to continue his studies? I say that the burden will fall on the backs of the Guam Faithful, who have already been broken by Apuron and his misfits in the past years. This is more insult to the already injured Church in Guam. TY burnes for the slap in the face..
THEY ARE CRYING WOLF BECAUSE OF THE LAWSUITS AND TALKING ABOUT BANKRUPTCY BUT YET, THEY STILL WANT/EXPECT THE PEOPLE TO PAY FOR THESE PEDOPHILES EDUCATION AND ETC SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO MOLEST /RAPE MORE CHILDREN...ALL THEY ARE DOING IS COVERING THEIR TRACKS AND ONCE AGAIN PROTECTING THESE EVIL MONSTERS AT OUR EXPENSE..SMH...HOW ABOUT PUNISHING THEM FOR THEIR CRIMES INSTEAD OF REWARDING THEM UH??..HOW ABOUT IT BYRNES??..
Byrnes' main concern will be preservation of archdiocesan assets in the wake of increasing abuse lawsuits. Insurance carriers are not compelled to make adjudicated settlement payouts. Some of those jumbo payments are made out of pocket.
The Vatican will pull his strings to their advantage and he will cave in to wealthy Neocats. Don't cut Byrnes any slack. Hold his feet to the fire and get the justice you deserve.
The question indeed is why are we rewarding this useless piece of shit? Adrian brought the troubles here through the ncw and his vindictive personality. We should be raising hell about this "canon law study" stuff. He cannot minister, much less offer resolutions or compassion to hurting couples who seek annulment of their sacramental marriage. What a joke! Why aren't the other priests up in arms? Are we to allow Archbishop Byrnes to make this crappy decision?
"we" are not going to fund anything we don't like if we STOP THE MONEY, period. If it means going back to hearing mass in the open air in order to cleanse our church, so be it. we can always rebuild afterwards. Let's get rid of the diseases in our church first.
And thus we begin a new year With news that will not bring us cheer. A weird new appointment. We may need some ointment Or something to calm down our fear!
I believe Byrnes started out with good intentions. He said he would listen before he would take action, but it seems he is only listening to one side and already making wrong decisions. Will we be seeing his name on the protest signs anytime soon?
apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT...
When it came to byrnes, I guess that guy r. perez, of the pdn comments called it right, the arrival of the great white failure...
Well at least we now know the code words used when they agree and confirm their complicity to the vatian, "I belong to you, I’m one of yours"...
For me, byrnes most telling comment was when he said he has a personal relationship with our lord, only to find out that the "lord" he's referencing is the lord almighty dollar, or it it euro...
apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT...
... And probably an "imprimatur" by F. Filoni as well! It does seem like Filoni is calling the shots (on behalf of NCW). I wish that Byrnes will stand up to Filoni and tell him who's "boss" in this archdiocese! Maybe Byrnes is thinking "but what if Filoni becomes the next pope!", and is just being condescending to cover his behind! And where does that leave the rest of us (the Faithful)? Out in the cold!! As usual!!
The New Year’s announcement is merely cover As again we will eventually discover The bait to educate is merely to extort Our minds away from the court But how we’ve grown wise to all the lies And one without brains always end up in chains.
Byrnes, the honeymoon is over! When you said "I belong to you. I am one of yours," we did not know you were just repeating to us what you said to Filoni Baloney. You're home now in Detroit. Do Guam a favor-- Stay there!
wow he leaving so fast Jan 5th. What could possibly be the reason? I smell a Rat.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the St. Paul University in Ottawa, Canada is on a semester calendar for their Canon Law students?
DeleteThis is a follow-up to the Christmas Eve post by Frenchie, “A Very Odd and Untimely Gift from Archbishop Byrnes”, which garnered 89 comments.
Moving someone from sunny Guam to frozen Ottawa in early January might be a “punishment” someone from Detroit could appreciate.
Happy new year!
YES YES YES!!! My thoughts exactly, and I hail from waaayyyy upstate NY an hour out of Montreal... early January in Ontario! bwahahahhahah!
DeleteI'll state again that while Byrnes approved it, it was not Byrnes' idea. This has nothing to do with disciplining Adrian, and in fact, despite my inference, it has nothing to do with rewarding him either. This has everything to do with getting him away from the upcoming law suits where he can and will be made to talk. While he cannot escape the law, his handlers are hoping out of sight out of mind. Too late.
DeleteFiloni Baloney seems to not be aware of 28 U.S. Code § 1783(a) – “A court of the United States may order the issuance of a subpoena requiring the appearance as a witness before it, or before a person or body designated by it, of a national or resident of the United States who is in a foreign country ...” If there is a similar statute/code at the local level on Guam, then Ottowa, Canada is not a far enough place for Presbyter Adrian to be stashed.
DeleteWith Abp Byrnes 'approving' Adrian's canon law stash-him-away to Canada assignment, and Filoni Baloney commanding this "assignment" for the purpose of making Adrian unavailable to the child sexual abuse lawsuits ... there continues the "aiding" and "abetting" and the "cover-uping." Will the clergy every learn?
DeleteCould it be this "assignment" of Adrian to Canada to study Canon Law was suggested by Adrian, offering to go at his own expense? And Byrnes accepted the suggestion, seeing it as a quiet way of getting rid of Adrian? I have no facts to support this theory. I'm just trying to understand Byrnes, giving him a little slack.
DeleteI suppose we should do the same for the captain of the Titanic.
Deletewow he leaving so fast Jan 5th. What could possibly be the reason? I smell a Rat.
ReplyDeleteHis BBF Putrid buzzed off too.
DeleteRendezvous in Canada.
DeleteThey need their fling..I mean Rendezvous..it's been MONTHS since they saw Tony Boy..they need to brush up on their Polo Game..LOL
DeleteJust in time for the 1867-2017 sesqicentennial.
DeleteOh, Canada!
Really? What a damn joke. They should disavow Adrian. What a cry baby and a stinking idiot. Idk what archbishop Byrnes was thinking when he allowed Adrian to pursue canon law. What a waste of money.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable!
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year to all our readers throughout the world.
Wow. To think that he can get away with everything he's done.. AND WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT!? Drain the diocese dry! STOP THE MONEY! We all know that justice will never be served if we leave it to Filoni's puppet.
ReplyDeleteI pity you AnonDec31,@2:41. You Neocat's evangelize, though you sound empty without Jesus? Kyrie Eleison. Archbishop Byrnes will do what!
ReplyDeleteAnonymousDecember 31, 2016 at 2:41 PM
The destructive nature of JW will be exposed even more in 2017. Archbishop Byrnes will be back and will take over the leadership of the archdiocese permanently. He will surely put a muzzle on the enemies of the church whose only interest is destabilization, distortion and destruction.
This guy is starting out just like Hon did. Next give reward Quitugua for all the evil he did with the Yoña property.
ReplyDeleteWow. . ! Where's the justice in this? And to add salt to the wound, I bet we, the Catholic faithful on Guam, are going to pay for his education!!! Talk about being screwed again. . . Come on Archbishop Byrnes. Talk to the Laity who know the screw-ups in this Archdiocese of Agana. Not all your priests know what's going on. Many have been complacent and generally lazy. Because Apuron never really cared about the parishes, the pastors all went AWOL. In spite of all these corruption at the highest level of our Chancery, the Laity persevered. We need a true leader in this Archdiocese to take swift action and punish these priests who abused their authority. You're the one to take care of this. Why did you award Adrian? Some may say good riddance, but I say--and I believe the vast majority of the Faithful are asking, "What is going on here?!". We are questioning your judgment and whether you really want to heal this Church on Guam. Or are you another puppet Archbishop for Filoni in Rome. We know he is running roughshod over you, but stand your ground, Archbishop. He is not your boss!
ReplyDeleteSorry, but I have to disagree about adrian being "rewarded". Sending adrian off island to "continue" his studies in Canon Law may be a blessing in disguise. "Canon Law sets forth the manner in which members of the church are to conduct themselves not only in their relationship and interaction with the church but in their personal and civic lives as well". Catholic Not Neo -(cannot figure out how to post my name on here) Matt Macias - Barrigada
ReplyDeleteGetting rid of Adrian in any way shape or form is a blessing. However, a simple sabbatical would do if not finding another bishop who would take him. But sending him off to "continue his canon law studies" is a slap in our faces, not from Adrian, but from Byrnes.
DeleteFirst, Adrian announced that he was rejecting Hon's reassignment to Umatac and that he was studying Canon law to justify his rejection. So this "continuing" his studies is apparently an extension of this. LOL.
Second, Adrian isn't just a problem priest, he was at the center of everything evil in this diocese, and through his many lies, committed crimes against the people.
Third, we are being made to pay for this bullshit even while the chancery is shutting down other services and now taxing the schools to pay its bills. You'll hear about that soon.
I will pray that bishop of Ottawa would take him.
DeleteIt's bad enough that our masses are not as well-attended as they used to be (and THAT is an understatement!). Now, if the Archdiocese starts to tax the schools, we will see an exodus to public schools very shortly after.
DeleteRight now, many of us still want to give Byrnes the benefit of the doubt. But Byrnes is working hard to reduce all doubt that he doesn't know what he's doing.
Or that he DOES!
DeleteTim, I think you know more than you're telling at this time!
DeleteI've been very clear. Filoni is running the diocese. Filoni is running Byrnes.
DeleteAll hail, Filoni!
DeletePerhaps the Protest signs should reflect "Screw Filoni Balony".
DeleteI warned people before Christmas. This option while removing Adrian from the island is NOT a blessing in disguise.
ReplyDeleteThis evil individual gets away with murder. He is sent away at your own dime and is not being held responsible for any of his misdeeds. This will be read by the Neos as an endorsement of their evil ways
Will Byrnes pay for Ardian to continue his studies? I say that the burden will fall on the backs of the Guam Faithful, who have already been broken by Apuron and his misfits in the past years. This is more insult to the already injured Church in Guam. TY burnes for the slap in the face..
ReplyDeleteAnd wait till you hear about their plan to take more of your money. Damn! SMH!
DeleteTHEY ARE CRYING WOLF BECAUSE OF THE LAWSUITS AND TALKING ABOUT BANKRUPTCY BUT YET, THEY STILL WANT/EXPECT THE PEOPLE TO PAY FOR THESE PEDOPHILES EDUCATION AND ETC SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO MOLEST /RAPE MORE CHILDREN...ALL THEY ARE DOING IS COVERING THEIR TRACKS AND ONCE AGAIN PROTECTING THESE EVIL MONSTERS AT OUR EXPENSE..SMH...HOW ABOUT PUNISHING THEM FOR THEIR CRIMES INSTEAD OF REWARDING THEM UH??..HOW ABOUT IT BYRNES??..
DeleteByrnes' main concern will be preservation of archdiocesan assets in the wake of increasing abuse lawsuits. Insurance carriers are not compelled to make adjudicated settlement payouts. Some of those jumbo payments are made out of pocket.
ReplyDeleteThe Vatican will pull his strings to their advantage and he will cave in to wealthy Neocats. Don't cut Byrnes any slack. Hold his feet to the fire and get the justice you deserve.
The question indeed is why are we rewarding this useless piece of shit? Adrian brought the troubles here through the ncw and his vindictive personality. We should be raising hell about this "canon law study" stuff. He cannot minister, much less offer resolutions or compassion to hurting couples who seek annulment of their sacramental marriage. What a joke! Why aren't the other priests up in arms? Are we to allow Archbishop Byrnes to make this crappy decision?
ReplyDeleteAnd wait till you hear how "we" are funding this.
DeleteCatholic Bishops Appeal the money of people pay for adrian. yet he informed seminarians no money to study in St.Patrick's. sic.
Delete"we" are not going to fund anything we don't like if we STOP THE MONEY, period. If it means going back to hearing mass in the open air in order to cleanse our church, so be it. we can always rebuild afterwards. Let's get rid of the diseases in our church first.
DeleteAnd thus we begin a new year
ReplyDeleteWith news that will not bring us cheer.
A weird new appointment.
We may need some ointment
Or something to calm down our fear!
I believe Byrnes started out with good intentions. He said he would listen before he would take action, but it seems he is only listening to one side
ReplyDeleteand already making wrong decisions. Will we be seeing his name on the protest signs anytime soon?
How do you spell Byrnes?
ReplyDeleteAnon 9:46 PM...Spell Byrnes== F-I-L-O-N-I B-A-L-O-N-E-Y..that's how you spell Byrnes..
DeleteI wouldn't be surprised to find out that Archbishop Byrnes appointment letter from the Vatican was stamped "Nihil obstat".
ReplyDeleteapuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT...
DeleteWhen it came to byrnes, I guess that guy r. perez, of the pdn comments called it right, the arrival of the great white failure...
Well at least we now know the code words used when they agree and confirm their complicity to the vatian, "I belong to you, I’m one of yours"...
For me, byrnes most telling comment was when he said he has a personal relationship with our lord, only to find out that the "lord" he's referencing is the lord almighty dollar, or it it euro...
apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT...
... And probably an "imprimatur" by F. Filoni as well! It does seem like Filoni is calling the shots (on behalf of NCW). I wish that Byrnes will stand up to Filoni and tell him who's "boss" in this archdiocese! Maybe Byrnes is thinking "but what if Filoni becomes the next pope!", and is just being condescending to cover his behind! And where does that leave the rest of us (the Faithful)? Out in the cold!! As usual!!
DeleteThe New Year’s announcement is merely cover
ReplyDeleteAs again we will eventually discover
The bait to educate is merely to extort
Our minds away from the court
But how we’ve grown wise to all the lies
And one without brains always end up in chains.
Byrnes messed up. It's that plain and simple.
ReplyDeleteByrnes, the honeymoon is over! When you said "I belong to you. I am one of yours," we did not know you were just repeating to us what you said to Filoni Baloney. You're home now in Detroit. Do Guam a favor-- Stay there!
ReplyDeleteWahhhhhh..huhu wahhhhhhhh.
ReplyDelete