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  1. 4th Sweethearts Ball tomorrow night. My spouse and i have been to one as I know have you and yours. Tickets are now $80 per couple. The funds are supposed to be used for marriage and family ministries. hasn't happened. the funds have been funneled straight to the chancery.

    happy Valentine's day.

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  2. It's okay! I donate enough to the church.

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  3. Yah, we won't be going. Can you imagine the indigestion I'd cause just by being there? I am public enemy #1, or so says Patti Arroyo :)

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  4. You mean the funds which are supposed to be used for marriage and family ministries which is headed by Deacon Larry Claros also a member of the NCW. Hmmmm.....no thanks.

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  5. Please advise on how youth can participate in World Youth Day at the international level without being affiliated with or joining the Neo-Catechumenal community. Are there other religious communities from Guam that go to WYD?

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    1. Anonymous (March 11, 2014 at 10:50 AM): One of my NON-NeoCat friends told me that Fr. Paul Gofigan had started a Non-Profit Organization to raise funds in order to travel to WYD. I was able to verify it on Fr. Paul's Facebook where back in December he posted that the NPO is called "Rainbows of Mercy," and is made up of individuals desiring to participate in World Youth Day 2016.

      I'm aware of a couple of fundraisers that the group has already had. And my friend said there have also been meetings. So you might want to contact Fr. Paul to see if you can join.

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    2. Thank you very much, Mary Lou.

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  6. I DO enjoy the blog theme song! Is there any meaning behind the mascot on the main page?

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    1. If you are referring to the tiger, then yes: Jungle. Tiger. Watching. :)

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    2. And don't miss Kiko on the right...hasn't stopped lecturing Pope Francis yet...his arms must be like rubber by now from waving wildly...been a long time, Kiko. But keep ranting, I, for one, don't believe you yet.

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    3. I figured. Can’t wait for the tiger to pounce!

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  7. Below is the "job description" for bishop. Straight from Vatican ll.

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19651028_christus-dominus_en.html

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  8. The website is much user friendly. Shows the each title and you have a Table of Contents. Great!

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    1. The Table of Contents will soon be improved. Right now it is only according to label.

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    2. Is there a medium like the live feed that shows us who is opening the page in the location. For example can we determine who opens in Agana. Can we determine the location the pape is opened. Eg if the page is opened on the hill can it be known. Just working out who is the readership.

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  9. Tim, like the changes you have made to the page. The live feed is really good to watch, and the page lay out much better to work with. Thank you for all you do.

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  10. I noticed the tab for Aaron Quitugua which was at the top of the page has disappeared. Is this good news? Has the Archbishop finally granted Aaron sponsorship?

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    1. No. I am in the process of more thoroughly documenting his story. All of the posts are still available by clicking on the label with his name in the right side bar or under the Table of Contents tab.

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  11. http://www.antyk.org.pl/wiara/neokatechumenat/inside.htm

    The psychological mechanisms of mental conditioning inside the neocatechumenate community

    Don't drink the kool aid...

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  12. Happy Sunday Tim and contributors. This may seem a little off topic to some but I would like to share how I greatly appreciate the courage and conviction expressed by the huge diversity of comments on Jungle Watch. It appears that thoughts and feelings are not held back. All throughout the blog there is phenomenal intelligence and eloquence interspersed with a great wit and creativity. Very deep and precious spirituality is expressed with passion, not to mention the continuity of awesome suspense and surprise that a mediocre communication parallels. History is in the making. Hundreds of years of a "Ssh Ssh don't tell" culture is being surpassed by a revolution in full progress. I have no doubt that this momentous and courageous outpouring will create lasting changes to minimize a long overdue suppressed fear, spilling over to other areas of the community. Tomorrow school starts. Children attend Catholic and non Catholic schools. They are young and impressionable, they will talk among their friends and classmates, some curious, confused, questioning, defending, blaming, sad or ashamed about what is currently happening within the church. How have parents considered to prepare them for such important dialog. Have parents considered taking time to sit down calmly and talk, listen and address children's thoughts and feelings regarding the changes taking place within the church. Taking time to help them understand what is happening, so they can feel comfortable and confident within themselves to have such discussions with their peers. It is something important to remember for all Guam's precious and very impressionable children, at this time who are exposed to such dramatic changes. This may not be an easy task within these throws of such change, that are fueled with passionate thoughts and feelings of numerous rights versus wrongs. But children deserve this attention and teaching moment. GOD IS GOOD EVERYWHERE. May Our Blessed Lord, Mother Mary and All the Angels and Saints Shower Peace and Blessings for Right and Perfect Outcomes for the Highest and Greatest Good of All.

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  13. In response to Kevin Camacho you used a quote. in Christianity there is no altar", which is " why we can celebrate the Eucharist on a suitable table and we can celebrate in a square, in the countryside or wherever it is suitable. We don't have a particular place where exclusively we should celebrate our worship." (Volume 1, 3rd Day, Catechetical Directory for Teams of Catechists)
    Tim I assume this statement to be accurate as it is referenced. That being so, why then does the Archbishop not allow Mass at the Veterans Cemetery? How can he justify not saying mass for veterans who can not afford the high cost of mass being said within Catholic church buildings? What authority does he have over the Veterans Cemetery? What kind of power does he have over other religions on Guam to not allow non Catholics to hold their religious services there either. It is my understanding that the chapel at the Veterans cemetery had been used up until the late 80's or early 90's. I understand the Archbishop does not allow Masses to be permitted at other Guam cemeteries either because of "cannon law". If he is a Neo then it is confusing to me because it would seem he would go by the above law. It is also confusing that Masses seem to be celebrated at hotels or other sites, yet not held in places built for that very purpose to comfort families and honor the departed's soul in a spiritual way at time of death?
    Even the Governor requested an answer to this question and why the 6 veterans who departed this life last month were not permitted to have a Mass held for them, where they could afford it.
    I can not even begin to imagine how heart breaking it must be for grieving families to suffer such treatment. Let alone to think it is the men and women for fought for this country that are treated with out respect and dignity. We all know that many veterans have suffered greatly for long years after their service. I always thought Jesus taught love. Can someone explain how such a lack of dignity and respect by NOT saying Mass for the departed where someone can afford it and in a place built for that purpose might be personified as the love that Jesus taught?

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  14. I'm from another country half way around the world. And happened upon this website.I'm praying for the people who run this blog and for the priest(s) who would take their own bishop to court! Assuming that's accurate. So sad that you put all your energy into trying to rip a family apart (the Church) in public. I know in a family we keep our arguments between ourselves out of love. This is pure hatred, wrapped up in rather sanctimonious drivel. I hope the truth comes out here, and not just the obvious vitriol and ego at play..

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    1. Yes, we hope the same. Ever hear of Bishop Cauchon?

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  15. Hi Tim. Would you consider posting the most recent comment first, rather than last? Over time, some articles have so many comments and I (and hopefully, most people feel the same) would like to read the most recent comments first rather than having to scroll past so many of the "old ones". Also, I wonder if you would please have a table of contents based on the most recent date of posting and the corresponding title? I forget the title of what I was reading and spend a lot of time looking for a specific topic; also, I can not confirm if the comment I made was posted.

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    1. Thank you for your suggestions. I'll see what I can do to improve things. I don't really have any control as to how the comments appear. I don't think this format (blogger) was set up to handle the volume of traffic and comments we are getting. But I'll look into it. Thanks.

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  16. I don't want to think about this. I do not know if you saw it on face book. The Great Divide Facing Pope Francis that Only Catholics Understand. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/21/the-great-divide-facing-pope-francis-that-only-catholics-understand.html

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    1. I wouldn't bother with the article. It is the usual poorly written drivel of an anti-Catholic Catholic. There is no such thing as a "sin free Catholic" (the author's term), nor is being "sin free" a condition of receiving communion. The issue is related to the current debate about divorced and remarried Catholics which the Church is currently considering, but we'll get to that another time.

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  17. Thanks Tim, All the drama can get a bit exhausting at times, I certainly don't need any more of it. I do not know how you manage to keep up with it day in and day out. More power to you May God Bless You Greatly.

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  18. I attended mass in Asan yesterday in which Zoltan presided. He said we need to follow our leader and made reference to the Arch in order to find God. Then he added that we shouldn't go into "the jungle" to find God. I was too far from the speaker to record his rant. Then he got his prayers all mixed up--it would've been thought so hilarious if not sad and disgusting. After we left my husband kept repeating "don't go in the jungle nai!" I'm still cracking up!!! I need to go to mass this morning as last night was like being in a jungle

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  19. 3 priests arrested after Pope tells man to report sexual abuse


    ROME (AP) — Pope Francis says he personally called a Spaniard who said he was sexually abused by a priest and urged him to report it to the diocese.

    Three priests and a layman were arrested Monday in connection with the case in the southern city of Granada.

    Francis, speaking to reporters while returning home from Strasbourg on Tuesday, says he received a letter from the alleged victim and then phoned him, telling him to go to the Granada diocese in person to report the abuse that took place about 10 years ago. Francis says he wrote to the bishop and urged him to launch an investigation.

    The pope says the case is causing him “great pain ... But the truth is the truth and we can’t hide it.”

    Today in the Guam PDN

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  20. If anyone knows the history of the San Dimas Church project, it is ironic how AAA treated the parishioners of Malesso, home to San Dimas and more especially to Santa Marian Kamalen as well as Our Lady of the Rosary. Back in the early 1990's, a modest and humble group of parishioners had started the Merizo Men's Choir with the intent of starting the journey to build a permanent structure to house our patron saints. So under the guidance and direction of Father Jose Villagomez and Mr. Ken Reyes a Men's Choir s was started that was going to be a two-fold organization. Asides from bringing back traditional Chamorro church hymns, the group was going to start a fund drive to build the church with the intent of not only building the structure but paying for the church in cash to eliminate having to subject such a small community to a large loan. How was this going to happen? Off course with the oldest fund raising project that had built churches throughout the island; BINGO. Over the course of the next 5 years from 1990 to about 1995, the choir was not only getting popular island wide, but they were being invited to sing for any event that had to do with the church. From weddings to funerals. Anyway by later 1995 the choir ventured into recording a Christmas album on CDs and tape and with the blessings of our Lord succeeded and produced and sold over 2500 albums. Although that was not the main fund raiser that funded the church it was a substantial move in the right direction. Again, as I earlier stated the choir's main fund raiser was with BINGO, and what started as carport function ended up in running the first Million dollar pay out BINGO on January 2000. After that event and with the location being staged at the old Red Carpet Hotel, the choir was netting a substantial amount of money that was being ear marked for the new church. By that time the choir had enough not only to start construction by was positioned to pay off the loan in it's entirety without having to burden the community with a long term loan which was needed to start the construction. Well in order to "SHORT CIRCUIT" the choir's efforts, AAA banned all gambling including BINGO. So with that the choir's efforts were stopped dead in their tracks to be able to pay off the loan.

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  21. As per AAA, the church will not accept any monies that was generated from any form of gambling, and directly to the Malesso Men's Choir any monies that they had accumulated from their very successful venture. Anyway this is not the straw that broke the camel's back. Around the same time frame AAA was venturing into recording a religious album and needed funds to record and produce his project. Guess who donated $5,000.00 to his project, and the first two guesses do not count; you got it, the Malesso Men's Choir. Through the efforts of one of AAA's nephews, who approached the choir, a check in the amount of $5,000.00 was written and cashed by the company that recorded and produce his album. I guess that for the church the choir's monies was not good enough, but anything directly for AAA was okay. Not long after that one of the main people in the choir left the church and became a JW. Ironic that churches throughout the country both nation wide and internationally, still use BINGO as a Sunday fund raiser for their projects and other efforts that need financial backing, but AAA is dead against using this. Now the parishioners of Malesso are still paying off a debt that could have been totally paid off. I only pray that whatever AAA's motives are, he be very cautious about it, because apparently the church is being divided quickly and the division is causing havoc on us that are holding true to our faith. As I remember my grandma and mom and even my mother-in-law saying, "we are only human and we will always be subjected to making mistakes and that even applies for our clergy." So as much as I forgive AAA for whatever path he is taking his flock down, that we do not end up being condemned for eternity. Please pray for unity of our church and the end of this situation that we are all experiencing presently. God bless us all!!!

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  22. AN ATHEIST IN SUPPORT OF GUAM’S CATHOLICS
    I was born and raised on Guam. I am Chamorro, a former Catholic, and now an atheist. It is never my intention to push my beliefs or lack thereof on anyone. I am writing this post because although my religious beliefs have changed, my respect for my fellow islanders has not.
    I didn’t leave the church while I was living on Guam. So it had nothing to do with anything lacking within the archdiocese at the time. Although I should add that I was always disgusted whenever I saw Apuron because he seemed like a show-off. He was all about grabbing attention for himself anywhere and all the time. I’m adding this detail so no one tries to tie my leaving with their opinion of the diocese. I actually left the church years after I moved away.
    My family members are part of Guam’s catholic community and it pains me to see their church going through such a fiasco. I was informed recently by a family member that my aunt appears to be depressed since the church scandal came to light, and no longer wants to go to mass. She has NEVER missed mass for no good reason.
    My family consists of two sides: Non-neo, and neo. What I can tell you about the two sides of my family is this:
    The side NOT in the Neo are genuinely close knit. They are there for each other and know they can rely on one another for support and compassion. No one competes with anyone else within the family on who makes more money, or who is doing better in life. We love each other unconditionally. They don’t need the Neo to solve their problems because they stand strong on their own, and have their faith in Guam’s churches to guide them if need be.
    The side with members IN the neo have long been the kind who have to outdo each other in everything, most especially who has the bigger income. They are back stabbers, liars, cheaters (in everything), attention-seekers, thieves, etc. As a matter of fact, some of their criminal ways have made the paper in the past. But they work so hard to keep the world outside of the family home thinking that they are ideal, and without fault. They are also very judgmental about each other and others.
    It does not surprise me that they are in the Neo. They are always trying to make people think that they are better than everyone else, and will align themselves with anyone or any organization that makes them feel that way. I have heard that the early members of the Neo on Guam were mostly wealthy folks. This is a magnet for that side of my family. They must be associated with the rich in their "current fad" group so that people will see them as superior.
    What I find funny is that the side of my family NOT in the neo are relatives of AAA, and think he is making a fool of himself.
    Even though I am no longer a part of the catholic community (and definitely NOT A NEO), I support Guam’s Catholics in standing up for what is right for them. Guam is still my home, and my fellow islanders are still my family. Please don’t give up in your fight against an infiltrator.

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  23. I am so sad for Adrian. I’d like to ask him a few question…
    Adrian,
    How does it feel to tarnish the good and most respectable name of your family? Your father “Nito” was a remarkable, and respectable man. He genuinely and sincerely cared for people. I feel so honored to have known him. And what about your mother “Tan Chong”? What would she think? She remains as strong in her heart as your father was. It’s sad that you are the product of such great people.
    Do you care at all that the reputation that your parents upheld their whole lives is being dragged down by the son they thought they’d be proud of? What more a son they were proud to see serving God? I never knew your parents to be greedy, or hungry for attention. They were kind and generous to others, and as you know, well-meaning disciplinarians to you and your siblings. Unfortunately, the favorite son has fallen far from the tree.
    It’s too bad you and others are keeping your mom from finding out what’s going on right now. It’s too bad that, at the same time, it’s the right thing to do seeing as how she is very ill. It’s too bad that she will never know that her favorite son’s greed for power will add to the Cristobal legacy an aura of scandal and manipulation.
    Shame on you Adrian.

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  24. Is this Sue?
    http://swepa.org.my/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/23.-Datuk-Susanna-Jaya-Suriya-THUMB1.jpg

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  25. Apparently this morning at ACB Con class a question was asked of the instructor, What do you think about the NCW? After giving the whole run-down about the Way, even mentioning that the Pope approved of the movement, the instructor further stated that "THE POPE IS NOT NEO....NOT YET" The weird thing is the instructor told the class it (neo) is not for her!! WTH?! Saving face? Lol

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  26. deacon martinez where did you get your info assshole..n the girl n her loser parents arent neos..only god would judge allthat is said ndone soo back off about fr,luis already..

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    1. Only God will judge?? And yet here you are judging Deacon Martinez as an asshole, and the girl's parents as losers. Here's my judgement of you: Hypocrite, ignorant, neo idiot. All those in agreement, raise your hand!!

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  27. http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=953213

    You may want to enlighten some people regarding the Neo communion method. They are from another Arch/Diocese that are having the same issues.

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  28. GOOD NEWS FROM THE FRIARY

    I recently received a news letter from Pale Eric Forbes: FORMING FRIARS GOD HAS GIVEN US VOCATIONS!

    What a blessing! There are eight men who are in the Capuchin formation program. Some are studying in California. Let's support these vocations and pray for all who follow God's call to serve His people.

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  29. I just heard from my mother that while the "Concerned Catholics of Guam" was conducting their rally; the Neos also did their rally as well. This is really sad to see how something like this is breaking up families, friends. We as "CATHOLICS" believe in one "GOD" we should get together as one community and praise for all the good things we have and pray even harder for those who are less fortunate then us.

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  30. Update of ACB confirmation classes. No teachers showed up this past Saturday; much less any posting (whatsap) or notification of class cancellation. The candidates who did show up were told that the retreat scheduled for next weekend was CANCELLED due to some "financial issue." OMG, they can't even support the kids to go on the retreat? I thought this was a requirement -- at least EVERY other parish has a retreat. I guess the candidates will just come to mass on Pentacost Sunday and walk out confirmed young men & women sans any formal formation! SMH Oh, my, but nothing could have prevented "Fodder Michael" from attending the NEO rally (whatever the heck it's called) yesterday at the Nanbo Bldg in Agana. He was trying to cross at the crosswalk while the dancing and guitar-playing was going on. They looked like they were all in a trance! YIKES!!! SCARY SIGHT!!!

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  31. Found this Legislative Resolution presented to Archie in 2009, pretty sums up the foundations of the RMS plain as day by the Legislature. Interesting speculation, is the present Gov. and Lt. Gov NEO's?

    http://www.guamlegislature.com/COR_Res_30th/Res.%20No.%20R259-30%20%28COR%29.pdf

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    1. No. It's pretty easy to get the legislature to say something nice about you.

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  32. I heard today that Fr. Pius is in Malta & is very sick.

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  33. Mr. Rohr

    I have read comments, regarding someone suitable for: "Excommunication"
    just looked it up, and took an interest in this

    • Procuring of abortion

    any chance poking at the "LG lady" at BOG

    The excommunicated are forbidden from employment or holding any position of authority in a diocese or parish.
    They are also deprived of a Catholic burial.

    I think it will be a good read....... (just a thought)
    Thanks



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  34. Where did the phrase "God loves you as you are" come from? Is this a quote from some spiritual writer, or is it scriptural? Does it have any subliminal message?

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  35. To the person who left the comment today about the statues. I am doing more research before I post your comment.

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  36. FYI - Don't really know how to word this but - some of the "Neo communities from Barrigada" are going to "second scrutiny" tomorrow at Holiday Inn Resort.

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  37. Pius sending Carmelite Nuns (young girls from Guam) to Malta to take over Convent from Old Nuns. Looks like they look for convents that have helpless nuns and takeover. I hope this doesn't happen in Guam.

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  38. I have always found it difficult to comprehend how a whole nation could be deceived? In the case of Nazi Germany it was made possible by appealing to people's sense of superiority, controlling the information the population received and influencing their minds with suggestion. This process could be employed to motivate suicide bombers too. In these cases the victims of this manipulation consider themselves to be in the right. It would be interesting to discover to what extent the NCW manipulates its members by controlling the information members receive and the use of suggestion. I understand that Kiki has banned members from use of the internet. If this is true-it looks suspicious.
    It seems that Pope Francis is aware of the problem and has stated that "the devil can insinuate himself into a charism making the members think they are better" (than even the Church).
    We need to pray seriously for the poor members who are spellbound and under the influence of the NCW if they are being controlled and manipulated.

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  39. https://www.osv.com/OSVNewsweekly/Story/TabId/2672/ArtMID/13567/ArticleID/10438/When-Was-the-Great-Apostasy.aspx

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  40. DANGER! DANGER!

    Stealth troop carrier approaching

    Known as “Spirit of Reformation” the drivers head the vehicle resolutely towards the Curia and the Papacy.
    The drivers are a cabal of a Spanish dictatorial leftie, Italian red anarchists and members of well known Italian crime families.
    The officers are a conglomerate of ambitious red hats jumping on the band wagon and compromised clerics with skeletons in their cupboards.
    The SS troops are kept in a strictly “need to know” state of blindness to the true nature of the mission and are sold the idea that they are specially chosen for the mission to save the World. They are animated to parade the power and success of their army as and when deemed necessary by the drivers in great fanfare.
    The troop carrier has sophisticated counter measures to defuse direct attack that would threaten the true mission. Such counter measures include; heretical teachings, illicit liturgical practices, cult like activity, emphasis only on positive fruits, not following official statutes, disobedience to the Pope, secrecy!
    The true mission, which almost succeeded with the forced resignation of Pope Benedict, is to insinuate the drivers into the Vatican and the Papacy.

    DANGER! DANGER!

    Jesus protect your church

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  41. Every time I have seen Kiko and Carmen on stage she always chided him for his self agrandisement. We always thought that this was a charade as Kiko used to say she keeps me humble and they had stage managed the whole thing. Now I feel that perhaps she was genuine and wherever she is now she is influencing the exposure of Kiko's mania better than she was able to do while on Earth.

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  42. I had been praying about whether to make a comment on this blog when in the Divine Office this morning I read the following "that there is no freedom where there is compulsion, and, where freedom is lacking, so too is righteousness" (Monday week 3 Advent- treatise William of Saint-Thierry "On contemplating God". This was the theme I had been praying about and hence this blog. As most members of NCW rarely go to other parishes or hear other catechists it would be good to hear if these practices occur elsewhere in the World?
    Examples of compulsion or coercion:
    What do you mean you do not want to do this God has chosen this for you?
    You have been called as a people (community) you are called to walk together. (In other words to attend all the meetings etc.)
    If you leave the community you will be abandoning your eternal life.
    If you leave the community you will find out what it is like to be trampled under foot.
    If you leave the community you will end up in crisis.
    You are the remnant specially chosen by God.

    Out of interest does anyone consider this to be compulsion and/or do they have other examples?



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    1. They have eyes but they do not see

      What is the reality behind the secretive mask of the NCW. They operate like Gramski’s Bolsheviks. Each little cell (community) is isolated from each other so that no one knows what is going on in another cell. Each NCW community is self centred and self congratulating, apparently being catechised in Christianity but at the same time being led by the nose to who knows where without realising it.
      The end result is what we see happening here in Guam and many of the posts on JW:
      The cell members believe they are in an exalted state of salvation and anyone criticising them is considered diabolical and evil.

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