Not surprised with Larry (who seems to over rate himself). A priest told me that he told Larry what had happened to Msgr. James (when he was unjustly removed). Larry said, "Oh good for him. He deserves it!" Larry, did you not hear what Confucius say about those who seek vengeance? He said, "Let he who seeks vengeance dig two graves." Larry, Don't expect us to attend your funeral!
Where's ''Rudy'' this is getting boring
As the spokesman and assistant for the archdiocese his conduct was unbecoming and he should step down. His actions that nght did show his true colors.
Larry needs to take anger management classes. Maybe he should sit down with Dr. Kallingal and Mary Les Benavente for consultation and evaluation.Our men folk treat us with dignity and respect. Boy, oh boy, if my husband EVER acted the WAY you did Claros, his suitcase would be waiting for him at the front door.
Yet another embarrassing moment for the Archbishop. But it doesn't seem to embarrass him at all. Screw loose. For sure for sure.
I attended Mass at Toto several months ago and Deacon Claros, gave the homily, to begin with he gave a long winded disjointed homily which lasted well over 15 minutes. Deacon one advise KISS Keep it short STUPID. You loose the interest of the people. The one thing he said during this painful homily was that he went shopping at Payless and he noticed that the cashier did not punch in one of the items he purchased. What did he do, he did not inform the cashier of the mistake took (stole) the product and later conscience led him to confess. I was floored by his action. I did not know what lessons he was trying to teach the laity. ????? Utterly shameful. The other thing is long homilies are great if they enrich the listeners, but empty rhetoric is only boastful. Too much ego with very little substance.
I really agree with you on the meaningless empty homilies that go on and on and on. Way too much ego but then again they are NEO presbyters....
Larry doesn't understand the dynamics of having good rapport with people. Not only should he not have messed with the women of Toto, he should have realized that when he points a finger at anyone and throws blame, he has three other fingers pointing back at him! To use a phrase from a well respected Monsignor, "You....You are the problem......."
Larry and apuron enjoy positions of authority to feed their ego. Saving souls is not one of the reasons for choosing their vocation.
For sure, for sure...we have no respect for you either.
Great job, Toto parishioners! It took courage to bring those questions to the forefront and not let the archbishop and his spokesman Claros wiggle away. I especially liked the speaker (around 1:30) who pointed out that the NEOs need to subscribe to the Catholic faith, teachings and practices...
Ai, another one bites their dust...they're getting boring. Mr. Tim, awaiting the other shoe to drop so we can see them fools scurry for another one of their famous.....it's somewhere, I got to find it excuses. AND AA Apuwrong, so funny how a man confronted has few words to say when placed on the spot but a whole book to recite behind evil doors. So tell me, how long are the Neo blind followers are to fulfill their pledges for the AAA. Heard it had to be over 300.00 just to look good. Flo B.
Larry should step down as a deacon until he realizes that he just a man and a sinner like me and the bishop. Quit walking around as if you are better than us. You have lost total respect from the non neos. Go back to your archbishop and let him send you to reform school with Louie.
Larry no communication skills ignore him not worth time of day.
Larry go back to Kansas we will hound you until you are gone.
Those women in TOTO! HA!
Allow me to share again for readers will eventually come to see the reality of truth. Firstly remember perception is real truth is not. We had two bishops in the pacific, one perched on his mountain God knows what he is doing, and the other ranting roaming around Guam like a challenged child. Neither of these bishops had the capacity or leadership to meet with people to discuss issues and respectfully find solutions to the problems. As a result of their complete inability to lead and govern they both led their local churches into the pit of destruction. The people of Guam and Saipan are all good religious people like me also. But these leaders damaged their priests and people causing great suffering to many. Some have asked me if I really believe it is helpful for me to comment on this blog. As a norm I do not believe it is the best policy for any priest to comment on any bishops leadership in public. But in the case of Guam and Saipan you had two men who abused their power and position destroyed priests and people for years and got away with it. Disorder grows in this world when good people sit down and let these people get away with it. I have a great respect for Tim Rohr, concerned Catholics because they had the character and values to rightly question the leader of Guam's church. To stop the absolute suffering of people they have every right to question and call for his resignation. Rightly only the pope will decide if any bishop remains. The reality now on Guam is that when one man has caused so much pain division, anxiety, emotional turmoil in the lives of people should he not step down to allow healing to begin. When I agreed to leave Saipan in the problems between myself and the retired idiot I did for one reason. That was so my presence did not divide the church. I removed myself because I believe if a priest or bishop becomes a problem of unity he should remove himself. I did. To learn later I was never the cause of the problems I highlighted the problems. Fr. Matthew was not the problem it was the leadership of tommy. His poverty of inability to communicate to talk to priests to find solutions. Hence his insanity divided a church so badly it cannot heal five years after him. That's how bad it is. Same with Guam a leader who simply cannot communicate with priests and people, a confused leader who does not know where he is or where he is going. His leadership has caused not only division because of his insanity but is now international story. He should retire on his own for he knows he is the division. He has killed the faith of the people destroyed lives caused much damage, has no respect, is a comple lame duck leader. why should he remain. now we can spend another five years pointing to this pathetic leadership and we will. But just look at the damaged divided church of Guam. is it right that people suffer like this because of one mans confusion. No. He has divided the church caused suffering to so many, the crisis worsens. Archbishop there is life beyond San Ramon, you are the division please for the good of the church step down. Focus on the Lord your getting older as we all are the Lord is our focus and our own salvation. Stop the division and do what is right. We know you will not but one day you will realize we were right. For the good of your own soul you should retire.
No moral leadership. That is why, he was not able to and still unable to do lead the people of God to do something about the same-sex marriage fiasco. He could have called for a united rally against it. Before or even after. United rally with all the Christians on island. But how can he unite with the other Christian groups when he has caused so much division within his own Catholic Church. Granting, there is just a perception of disunity. Isn't that still a reason to look into it and resolve it. Sad. Very, very sad. How can he just listen to his Neo brethren? It is when he became a mere member. He can lead because now he is being led. And because he is being led, we are being led by that somebody leading him. Sad. Very, very sad.
Dear Father Michael Blockly,Found this very interesting comment on Di Di's blog. AnonymousJune 18, 2015 at 11:09 PMDiana thank you for your comment of 10.27pm. You may well be right in what you state I agree. We looked into this priest from Saipan he spends more time in Rome and Zurich than Manila. He is obviously someone who rows his own boat and is known to people in high political places in church and politics. In the corporate world people like him you put in a small office in the penthouse signing disbursement vouchers and let him take four hour luncheons as he is known for. You would not hear a word again. The fact is this priest is drawing attention to Guam is known inside the Vatican and is now a voice. He may be AWOL but he is causing issues . Someone needs to kindly ask him to be quiet . I believe you are right he is not even from Guam. This makes it of greater interest. A foreign priest who is not a part of Guam but widely known in the pacific has much to say. He has also been seen in the presence of the Pope and Cardinal Tagle.
No moral voice in Guam Church leadership. Sin running rampant. Good Catholics worn down trying to help with Silence from Rome. Discouraging. We certainly can't use the authority of our local ordinary in any discussion with our kids or at work. We're laughed right out of town. Depressing.
Moral evil corruption . Why? Archbishop used the term " washing money" to a casino owner . Archbishop is against casino. However, he will accept casino money, " wash money" re invest it back into rms so it becomes clean money. Sic.
See guys, told you Neo will take over popes visit. Silly Chaput will let him, too. Also, this September Pope Francis will be coming to Philadelpha for the Family Day and for the canonization of Father Junipero Serra. He will meet with the families on September 26th and 27th. Kiko, Carmen, and Father Mario will be meeting with the families and the youth on September 28th. The meeting will be presided by Archbishop Chaput, and there will be many Cardinals and Bishops. These are historic events and the communities are invited to participate.
Take Larry with you and leave him there.
Wheeeee!!!!! Does that mean that Harold and OJ will be going with Apuron? One to carry his bags and the other to hold his hand.On another note...Lady Di says that soon the 2x2s will be going out again in the mainland. After the Evangelization they will meet in New Jersey....home of the NCW and Genarrinis to share their experience! Yes, yes, yes, ....New Jersey, Genarrini residence, their ROME AWAY FROM ROME. Jucatun, what was your experience?...according to Diana your story entails PIZZA!
Hey, Harold is the distinguished Vice-Rector of RMS. any sightings recently??
Really disturbing situation evolving on Guam. Urgent for a person of integrity to be sent into Guam to bring an end to the in house division. It is unworthy for bishop to be causing such division leading to wars of words . It is very unbecoming for Catholic priests bishops to be fighting on the Internet.
Larry, take off you collar when you are in public we are ashamed of you. Wear it to your neo gatherings where the few believe in you.
Archie said no Roman collar for deacons.
As with everything, NEOs are exceptions. Our local non-NEO permanent deacons are prohibited, but the NEO ones may wear them. I am wondering why they are seated with AAA at the Toto meeting. Did they participate in the Parish visit? Or, was it just to shore up a weak spiritual leader.
Gerald, those that sat with the archbishop are nothing more than body guards for a "leader" who think too much of himself and his importance to our faith. Really???? You need those people to prop you up, archbishop? You are disillusion, sir.
Gerald Taitano...no Larry Claros did not participate at the evening of the pastoral Mass. In Toto. He apparently was already in the social hall when we got there.The Terlajes on the other hand were present at the evening Mass. Observing them, they were only there in body not spirit. No real active participation in the mass or singing. Guess our songs weren't of the LA LA Bamba; la cucuracha; or the Spanish upbeat they are used too.
Deacons shod be men of strong Christian values. Men who are raised as practicing christians all their life's. You, Larry, you are a wanna be. You joined the NCW because you had problems and you still have problems. Stay with in your neo if you want to be a preacher man. Don't give me communion with those fingers of yours that you used to insult the christian ladies of Toto.
Shame on Larry.Shame on these so called men like Larry & tony damaging faith of our island.
How does the saying go in the NCW: We WILL take care of you!John Brown and Susie Q are both community members of the WAY. After dating for some time they get married NCW style. Life goes on, children ate born and then BOOM! John Brown decides after all these years that the WAY was not for him. John Brown steps out and leaves the community. John Brown does not stop Susie Q from having their children continue in the upbringing of the WAY. Determined as he is, nothing or no one could make him go back.Guess what...Susie Q and the children will be taken care off, but not John Brown. He is now out of the Picture.What is it that is always stated? We do not force anyone. The WAY IS not for ALL. The WAY is very clickish. Either you are in or you are out. We protect, provide and care for our own, meaning those in the WAY. How would any I dividual feel after leaving the WAY, to be told by family and friends that because YOU LEFT THE WAY, WE WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF YOU! How dad! How Christian like you are! How two faced can you be! Poor, poor John Brown is left out in the cold.
Way to go Toto Parishioners. We also don't want him in St. Jude Church. Deacon Martinez is loved over at St. Jude. Very different as far as being humble and respectful.Tun Pedro Santos
Deacon Steve is a good man, a humble man. In his haste to get rid of him, AAA gave Sinajana a wonderful gift. NEOs, stay away from Sinajana! You think Toto was bad?
larry - YOUR MIND'S MADE UP If you cause divisions you must go!When you smile and plot: God will know.Your wrongful prayer will only hurt the ones you love,For God knows your heart and your intent.Go and find another church to spoil:You'll only dig your own grave with your toil!The Valley of Decision's where you are,Your mind's made up to only go this far.An evil spider weaves his web with care:The eggs he lays hatch while you're unaware.The cords and vines you weave will choke your life,
from the heart to the WOMEN of TOTOWE ARE WARRIORS We are warriors, we are praisers,We're the army of the Lord.We're a different generationFrom what man has seen before.With our banners flying, trumpets blowing,We come on the scene:We're the Bride of Christ, the Shulamite,We are the Warrior Queen.We've been purged in fire, died in water,Resurrected new!Invincible, His sacred seed,Young lions made from truth.With our banners flying, trumpets blowing,We come on the scene:We're the Bride of Christ, the Shulamite,We are the Warrior Queen.
What's with this new deal? RMS mostly funded by off-island?? DianaJune 18, 2015 at 10:08 PMDIANA...The information in the Umatuna will tell you that the Archdiocese funds only 10% of the RM Seminary. The other 90% comes from contributions off-island and from fundraising.
Diana says the RMS is self sufficient- here is my response which I know she will not post- What a load of bull. I can show you how the chancery supports RMS. (got tons of leaked documents- years of it) I will forward to the Jungle for publication. Billing statements of various companies, fuel, travel, insurance, banking, wholesale, rentals, and so on. Lots of statements, notices of "non-payment and over due" and other information. The intricate web and back channels that neo parishes have in supporting the seminary, seminarians,and shifting costs so the classify as "parish" employees. Apuron should be careful who he trusts to keep his "secrets" because they are leaking everywhere. Locking file cabinets, limiting access? That is a bit too late. Do not be afraid. I will redact private information but the last names, location of services, amounts will remain to show the TRUTH. The off island contributions are a lie- very rare and 99% sure it came from ncw black trash bags. The archdiocese pays for it well, wait a minute more like doesn't PAY and just owes a ton of vendors.
Just like all cults, they will continue their web of lies to keep the money flowing in. Can't wait to see the unpaid bills being charged by this NE0 Cult Chancery.
DON'T MESS WITH ALL GUAM WOMEN, PERIOD!
Tony...believe you me, the women of St Therese look forward to your visit. If you thought Toto was bad, we are like birds of prey ready to swoop down on your bodies. Please bring Larry, for sure for sure, with you. He needs more humility and we are ready to show him a large portion.By the way, Tony. I hope you now note that it is no longer a voice of one crying out in the spiritual wilderness of Guam. Entire communities are crying out. So take note, because it is only going to grow. You are the cancer we intend to excise, so leave now before the chemo treatment starts to burn you away.
Janet B. I do hope that the women at Santa Teresita Parish will be just as BOLD and OUTSPOKEN as were the women in TOTO.If Claros had not yelled "sit down" and pointed his finger at one of our women parishioners, he wouldn't have gotten the boos and the boot!When a man reacts to a woman the way he did, it shows how domineering he is. It also shows he can be a violent man. I doubt very much that any of us would want to be in his wife's shoes!Maybe he has to start at the very beginning. A very good place to start. When we read we begin with ABC, when we sing we begin with DOE , RE, MI! When they join the Ncw, they begin with SILENCE, LISTEN AND DON'T QUESTION! Funny how these kiko goats are not allowed to question. Even the Cardinals in Rome do not remain silent! Parishes who are still waiting for a Pastoral visit, open up you heart and soul. My advice to you all, if the Archbishop continues his speech on Rome..write to Rome..Tell Rome..Rome this and that..do a massive EXODUS...he will only be wasting your precious time.
I agree with Anon 9:21, another clue that the money raised by AAA annual appeal was so dismal that the parish priest were summoned before AAA and told that services would be cut and he may also be planning to raid the Sunday collections that would normally be earmarked for the parishes. KIKO you and your Cult are the only ones benefiting from your ill-prepared presbyters, we do not care nor want your brand of religion. It is bogus. Support them yourself and we do not want them in our parishes. We want the WAY to go aWAY, far,far aWAY.
Guam is sending NCW members to New Jersey meeting. Chancery is contributing money to this meeting. However, Archdiocse can only contribute $50,000 to co responsibles to use. Remainder of funding must come from members. Here is the crunch. Chancery informed co responsibles to ask individual pastors for parish funds to support members going off island to meeting.
50,000.00 freaking thousand dollars????? For neo time travelers
1.48pm. Yes, to fly return east coast of USA first class lowest seat cost today $3,000. The 50,000 budget for travel alone will cover less than twenty seats. Momey is needed to supplement travel costs and will come from neo parishes for sure.
These are not just the co-responsibles going. Included in this travel are the seminarians, catechists, itinerants, responsibles and co- responsibles. Remember they are going to meet in New Jersey, the Rome away from Rome and then return back to starting point to tell of their experience. Anything and everything that has to do with the NCW will always involve the Gennarris. The are the MAIN KEY PLAYERS OF THE NCW OF GUAM CALLING THE SHOTS. THE HEIRARCHY is from KIKOBIRD to Giussepe and Claudia GENARRINI to Pilotos Pius to Archbishop Apo'wrongee.to the responsibles to the co-responsibles to the catechists and finally to the kiko goat members.It is a given PERCEPTION (love this word) the Apo'wrongee is the decision maker on our tiny island. The fact remains that the Genarinnis control the CHANCERY AND APO'WRONGEE.
Can someone please explain/describe/identify the roles of "catechists, itinerants, responsibles and co-resposibles" in the NCW? Do we know who they are on Guam? For that matter, do we know how many NCW communities there are, and which parishes they are from? I have heard of Agana Community #1, #2, etc., so I assume there are more than one community in some parishes. I hear that there are new communities formed in some parishes such as Malesso, which saddens me because Pale Mike and Pale Eric worked so hard to establish and deepen faithful groups (especially amongst the youth) and were so loved there, only to be turned over to three Neo presbyters in a row, some of whom were so poorly developed as we well know now. Maybe someone who used to "walk" can enlighten us? BTW, I am sure there are many good people in the NCW on Guam, just misguided, at best, or brainwashed by those who seek to "pad" their numbers for Kiko's glory. God bless them.
Larry Claros has been doing nothing all the time he has been working in the Chancery Faith Formation office, What has he to show for all the paycheck he has received all these years? No Faith Formation, No Training, No nothing. He is hardly in the office, yet collects a day's wage. isn't that stealing from your employer? He has failed in his SARC responsibilities, and has resorted to covering up AAA, Wadeson, and Louie Camacho. He has turned a blind eye to all the negative actions that have transpired in the church and has suscribed to the divicive tactics of his NCW and AAA's ill acts. Larry, your temper and outrage are unbecoming of one holding the office of Deacon. Please do yourself a favor and take some time off to reflect on what a Deacon's character should be.
" Archdiocese of Agana now stands in dispair" Words of a catholic archbishop following the growing tensions in the apuron church.
Anon 12;59 please provide us with the source of the statement from the archbishop.
I hope Rome is smart enough to make sure there is no document shredding or burning when Rome decides to tell Tony it's over. If Rome gives them even one or two days, Tony and company will destroy whatever paper trail they can. If the true story of Tony's disastrous term ever comes out, it will shake the faith of even the strongest techa on Guam. Tony has to be given the news and then immediately the Roman official has to ensure that files are under lock and key. I hope you're reading this Archbishop Krebs.
Maybe Rome should lure the archbishop to a meeting and then, behind his back, lock him out of his offices and residence-like the archbishop did to Fr. Gofigan. Then Rome should have its officials go through the archbishop's boxes and files-just as was done to Msgr. Benavente.
He absolutely will destroy ...his tracks well covered. When will this agony be over?? Excellency Krebs?? Please. My son changed his status in National Guard to: religion, NO PREFERENCE. Apuron, look what you alone did to my boy. Heartbreaking. He just laughs it off. I am crying.
$50,000 is for a group of 50 flying to New Jersey this is certainly something that needs to be evaluated. This weekend co responsibles are asking for donations to supplement travel. This money comes from the same source that funds the parishes and diocesan priests of Guam. If the people donate to the New Jersey bus man's vacation money is taken away from the parishes. So toto for example. They may be asked to purchase five air tickets or give $5,000 over above appeal and Sunday collection. Parishes are taxed two or three times over and money supports only the way. Why do Guam people have to pay for this foreign group living off our dime. ?
Secret coming soon......real soon!-Jokers Wild
Oh yes it is! LOL!
Ssssssssssssshhhhhh! A secret is coming.
Regarding funding for the Newark trip this Sept, Diana responds:DianaJune 18, 2015 at 10:34 AMDear Eleanor, Asking for an itemized breakdown of the annual appeals is fine, and you can find that information in the Umatuna website. Therefore, it is insulting when you make this statement: " I guess this is why the archbishop needs more money for his appeal".If you want to know where your Sunday contribution is going in your parish, you can pick up your parish bulletin. Every month, your parish should publish all monies that are turned in and how much is being spent on utilities, supplies, etc. I know that my parish publishes its financial report every month. If your parish is not publishing its financial report in the parish bulletin, you should complain to your parish priest. Your money has nothing to do with the NCW because you are not in any community. The funding for this event is coming only from the members of the NCW.--------Oh yeah? Tell that to the arch. Maybe he hasn't been told...Eileen Benavente-Blas
Talk about being brain washed...If I was a member of this cult and saw the division it has made, I would not spend a dime on a ridiculous trip to New Jersey to propogate Anti-Pope Kiko and his minions. Shame on all who walk with this NCW Cult.
LOL. The "itemized breakdown" of the appeal only shows where the money is coming from, not where it is going. Ask Diana to repost the published report her parish publishes. There is probably a category for "other".