Saturday, January 2, 2016

BEND OVER, DIANA. LOL. COURAGE.

Artistic rendering of kiko-cult members attending a recent convivence.
The Diana is useful because she continues to give us opportunities to share the truth over and over again. And as you can see from the thousands of views daily and almost every country on the face of the earth logging in, it is quite probable that the neo-cult is being exposed as never before. So thank you Diana. Now, let's use you again.


  1. The Dingbat will write anything to keep its diciples on the road to damnation...



    DianaJanuary 1, 2016 at 3:02 PM
    Dear Anonymous at 2:18 pm,

    I had to go into the jungle to find that quote because you did not leave a weblink. At any rate, I found it. I looked at Tim's source. He quoted "Inside the Vatican." "Inside the Vatican" leads to an article written by Sandro Magister. Sandro Magister is the author of an anti-Neo website, which is found here:

    http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1350922?eng=y

    Sandro Magister has been known to criticize Pope Francis, and he was banned from the Vatican Press 6 months ago for publishing a draft letter of the Pope that was not meant to be published because it was only a draft. He is also involve in a scandal for releasing a letter signed by 12 cardinals. Three of the cardinals said they never signed that letter. (See the weblink below):

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2015/06/holy-see-pulls-press-credentials-for-prominent-vatican-journalist-over-encyclical-leak/


    DianaJanuary 1, 2016 at 3:12 PM
    Dear Anonymous at 2:48 pm,

    For your information, Pope Benedict XVI celebrated Mass in the Neocatechumenal Way when he was Cardinal Ratzinger. When he became Pope, he definitely made a change in the way the Body of Christ was received. The NCW now receives the Body of Christ standing up. Then we sit and consume the Body of Christ together with the priest. The change he made was taking the Body of Christ standing rather than sitting.
As you can see, The Diana can refute none of my points in PIUS LIED. SOULS DIED. She had to resort to digging up a link to Sandro Magister's blog which she call's an anti-neo website. LOL, Diana. Magister has been writing his Chiesa blog since 2002 and averages 3 post per week. That's 2,184 posts. Now go to the search box at the top right corner of the blog and type in the word "neocatechumenal." The number of articles using the word "neocatechumenal" is 43. 

Your pathetic little Neocatechumenal Way only amounts to 0.01% of what Magister writes about and the last time the Neocatechumenal Way was even mentioned on his blog was a whole year ago in January of 2014, yet you call his blog an anti-Neocatechumenal Way website.

Do you see why we call you a dingbat, Diana? Do you see why I call your blog a whorehouse? You sleep with anything , any scrap of information no matter how cheap so long as it appears to protect your disease-ridden founder.

But let's go on, shall we?

Even if you strike all reference to the news story and completely eliminate Magister's blog from my post, you still have my main points:

1. There is no bishop in your hierarchy. Your sole source of authority is how close your catechist, Pius the Putrid, is to Kiko: Pius-Gennarini-Kiko. There is no bishop. Well at least we are in agreement on that. We don't have a bishop either, not since he decided to become Pius's pet dog. 

2. If permission for your communion rite had been granted separately from the Statute in 2008, there would have been no need for that approval to be sought afterwards. Yet, there was. 

Disregarding Magister's account, there is still the matter of what Pope Benedict actually said to Kiko and his cult on 20 JAN 2012 (unless the dingbat wants to attack the pope too).

Now pay attention, Diana. Here's what the pope said to you:
"...the Neocatechumens may celebrate the Sunday Eucharist in the small community, after the first Vespers of Sunday, according to the dispositions of the diocesan bishop (cf. Statute, art. 13 § 2). 
Now. let's stop there for a minute. Note: The pope says "according to the dispositions of the diocesan bishop," and then he quotes chapter and verse of your Statute. Now why does he say this? Ummm, because the pope is Catholic. I know that's a surprise for you. But in the Catholic Church the liturgy is governed and guarded by the diocesan bishop - or at least it is supposed to be (we'll have to make an exception for Guam). 

But in your hierarchy - as you demonstrate in PIUS LIED. SOULS DIED - there is no place for the diocesan bishop. In matters regarding the liturgy - and faith and morals as well - all depends on the line of catechists connected directly to Kiko. Those are your words, Diana. Not mine. Thus, you confirm for us that the Neocatechumenal Way is OUTSIDE the Catholic Church since your hierarchy is not apostolic. 

Let's go on. The pope says:
However, every Eucharistic celebration is an action of the one Christ together with his one Church and is therefore essentially open to all who belong to his Church. This public character of the Blessed Eucharist is expressed in the fact that every celebration of Holy Mass is ultimately directed by the bishop as a member of the Episcopal College, responsible for a specific local Church (cf. Second Vatican Ecumenical Council, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, Lumen Gentium, n. 26). 
Oops. There it is again. The pope's insistence that the Mass is "ultimately directed by the bishop." Now let's look at the words of Archbishop Apuron when he was asked about the liturgical practices of the Neocatechumenal Way at the Yona parish meeting in December of 2014:
Rome has approved it – even the way we’re receiving Communion. That they receive the host standing and they can sit down and everybody who receives it and they eat together, as the Priest stands and says, “Behold the Lamb of God…” you know, the acclamation before and they receive it sitting down. Rome has given permission for that. And it’s somewhere I need to find out where exactly, but they told us that permission is given. 
"They told us." LOL. Do you see the problem, Diana? Poor "Tony" only sees himself as one of Kiko's sheep. A real bishop would have received any instruction regarding the liturgy directly from the Congregation of Divine Worship and the Sacraments, not from an anonymous "they" to an "us." Never mind the fact that after a full year he still hasn't found "it." 

On a larger note, this is why the faithful of Agana must NOT obey "Tony," simply because his use of "we" and "us" whenever he speaks of the Neocatechumenal Way, separates him from the rest of the faithful. He really is one of you, JUST one of you. And more than that, he has abdicated his episcopal seat by ceding his authority of liturgical governance to a "they told us." Thanks for the opportunity - again - to point this out. 

Let's go on:
It is the task of the celebration in the small communities — regulated by the liturgical books that must be faithfully followed, with the details approved in the Statue of the Way -
There it is, Diana. Once again, and again, and again, and again. If there was any other document the pope would have mentioned it here. You claim there was an additional document giving permission for your communion rite after the 2008 publication of your Statutes. Yet in 2012, the pope makes no mention of it. You have only two guides: 1) the liturgical books (the Missal and the GIRM), and 2) "the details approved in the Statute of the Way." 

And, as also referenced in my previous post, Pope Francis in a letter to Kiko dated 3 APRIL 2014, from the Vatican Secretary of State, restates what Pope Benedict stated two years earlier:
"...as far as it pertains to the celebrations of the Paschal Vigil and the Sunday Eucharist, […] articles 12 and 13 [of the Statutes], read in their entirety, constitute therefore the regulatory charter of reference."
Pope Francis references NO OTHER instruction, love note, missive, text, email, facebook post, or anything else by which the NCW is to govern its practice. Your only defense is that you haven't personally been spanked for disobeying. Well, Diana, bend over. I'll do it for him. LOL. Courage. 

24 comments:

  1. Diana is a TRUE NEO-DINGBAT...... NEXT PLEASE!!!!

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  2. NCW borne out of a perfect gathering storm: kiko arguello needed a gullible place to expand his financial empire, putrid pius needed to flex his feeling of dominance and power which he does not get to do within the Carmelite community, brother tony needed to hide behind someone's skirt as he is wont to do by not taking responsibility and putting others instead under the bus, some repentant faithful needed assurance of mercy and forgiveness for moral "infractions" (aka "some whipping from a person of authority." And just like that....WHAM...ncw on Guam flourished, hoisted aloft by sycophants like dingbat diana who will say anything to prop up neo lies, and thus be assured of her daily whippings from putrid pius.

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  3. The joker is back and will write anything to keep its diciples from discovering the truth.


    AnonymousJanuary 1, 2016 at 9:56 PM
    Diana!

    Im Back! Happy New Year!

    Try not to entertain anything rohr. Hes obviously loosing the battle because he already lost his mind. Tell tell signs are in his recent obscene comments. How can he stand placing the Body of Christ on the same tongue that speaks evil?

    Stay the course and fight the good fight. Continue to share the many graces that can be found in the way and the many miracles that have happened through the experiences of the brothers and sisters.

    Stop entertaining his(rohr) nonsense. No one else is giving him the floor so his only outlet is his own blog. Dont be fooled by his page views. Anyone familiar with web marketing will know that if you want to continue to show up on search results, all you have to do is choose you words wisely. His Articles are all repetitive.

    We need to move forward and lets do this knowing that we do have every permission to celebrate the way we are. All they are saying is, we dont have this permission. Thats fine because they could say the same thing about anything else. Its like rohr telling me I dont have any money in the bank and me telling him that I have millions. Whether he believes me or not is of no importance. What matters is that I know I have the millions.

    -Jokers Wild

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    1. How sad for Adrian. He compares governance of the Sacred Liturgy to a dispute about how much money he has in the bank. To what depths this poor man-child has sunk.

      While Adrian may be lost, it is instructive for the rest of us to note that our Church regards the Sacred Liturgy as belonging to the whole church and therefore public. In fact the very word "liturgy" means "public work." Obviously a bank account is private.

      It also a sign of hope that Adrian is now instructing Diana to disregard my blog. Heretics, liars, and thieves will always tell you who they fear because they always fear the truth. Repent, Adrian, before it is too late.

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    2. If these NEO Cult Presbyters have $millions, than they don't need anymore $$ placed in the trash bags... Wake up everyone, they don't need our charity as they now can fend for themselves. Stop the money until we rid the Island of this Sacriligious monstrosity...

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    3. "lets do this knowing that we do have every permission"

      and how exactly do they know this? by using the force? by psychic intuition? my, how deeply the neocats believe in this collective delusion.

      gnostic comparisons are over-done these days, but i'd have to say that this kind of smells a little gnostic. the joker admits that there's some gnosis, this private "knowing," held by the neocats that lead them to believe that their catechesis and their liturgy has been approved. of course, the rest of us know otherwise.

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    4. Is that how much your soul is worth Adrian, 1 Million bucks? after you sold the truth and yourself to Kiko? Too bad there wont be too many places in Hell that you can spend this money in. Perhaps the NCW has convinced you that Hell does not exist. Well I guess you'll find out when you get there.

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    5. Yes, Adrian confirms that the NCW is gnostic. He also confirms that Apuron is content to let scandal spread. If he has permission. All he has to do is declare it. He never has.

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  4. "Diana" is Adrian Cristobal. Always fancied himself as a woman since childhood, and what a perfect subterfuge than to have a blog where he/she feels affirmed as a woman just by spouting off crazy nothings! She is like a wicked aunt who never married and just stays in the security of her plastic-covered sofas. But she gets a kick out of observing everyone from her window and writing about those she does not like. Of course "she" gets direction from an even older unmarried female sibling in putrid pius (ironic that this name means "holy" when the putrid we know is nothing but) who is more about whipping others into submission and mind control. Sad characters in the neo-tragedy cast on Guam. We have not even touched deathly-spectre Dave and split-personality Tony.

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    1. Adrian known to have gender issues.
      It came to crisis in St.Patrick's Seminary.

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    2. Anonymous 10:01 pm, What was the nature of Adrian's gender issue crisis at St. Patrick's Seminary? You've got me (and probably others curious).

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    3. to anon at 2.00pm:
      suffice to say, that at a time when Adrian was in the seminary, the candidates to the priesthood were fewer and fewer, and the Church was very eager to have new priests.
      The fact that the board of St Patrick at the time, refused to endorse him for the priesthood, should speak volume as to the issues at hand.Their decision was made clear to Apuron at the time, in no uncertain terms.
      This is why so many of his classmates were dejected by Apuron decision, to go over that recommendation. This is why Tim and many others have questioned the whole process of his encardination and subsequent growing influence in the Archdiocese.

      Even some of the worse priest you ever met, would be looked upon favorably if you had to compare them to Adrian, ethically, philosophically, humanly, or just plain commonly as a priest. Not only the man lacks any moral fiber of any kind, but he obviously suffers from psychological issues, that would require prolonged professional supervision, for him to function in any traditional environment. Yet this is the person our Archbishop has chosen to handle the day to day affairs of our diocese.
      Again, why? What did Adrian know and do, to convince our leader to overlook such screaming issues, that a seminary board of that time would refuse to endorse him??
      This goes at the core of the problems we are now facing.

      Guam is a small island. Most people know each other.
      Most people have known for years, that Adrian is not right in the head, and certainly not right for the job.
      Just like in the cases of the many sexual abuse victims, on island, there is a reluctance to confront, a reluctance to say: Enough! is Enough!
      People knew, but chose to be silent.
      People knew, but chose not to make waves.
      People knew, 2 and 2 did not make 5.
      Yet people did nothing.....this is why, we are in the jam we are in now.
      This is the old adage: "Bad things happen to good people, when honest people choose to be silent, to stand by, while injustice is being done, in their name."

      This is exactly why bad things happened to Father Paul, to Msg. James, to the Lastimoza family, to the guest priests who had to leave after years of dedicated service, to Father Efren, to many others, and of course it is why the victims of sexual abuse had to suffer in shame and silence for decades.

      This is why the likes of Pius and Genarini have been allowed to pilfer the Church of Guam for their benefit.
      This is why Diana and Zoltan continue to spew their never ending garbage.

      The good people of Guam chose to be silent, to agree by default to all the inequities done in their name, to the few among them, that were willing to stand up for truth and justice.
      So what are we willing to do?
      Are you willing to stand up? Or would you just like to find out the juicy details of Adrian's sick and pathetic little life?
      Are you willing to help the brave souls at CCOG? Or will you be observers on the side, keeping scores, but staying away from the fray?
      Are you willing to take some of your precious time, to join others in prayer at the Cathedral? Or would you rather go take a ride around the island or catch a movie?
      Are you willing to hold a sign, showing your displeasure, on a sidewalk? Or you prefer to read about in the Pacific Daily News the next day?

      This my friends is where we will be judged. What will you tell your grandchildren, when they ask you: What did you do, when the neocats took over our island?
      Are you just willing to have less and less options to go to church, and let the presbyters take over all the parishes one after one?
      Is coming to the jungle a way for you to get informed? Or is it a fun way to spend the evening, getting the latest gossip on this or that?
      Are you going to wait for the next Father Luis or Edivaldo, to put the move on your daughter or grand daughter?

      Are you going to sit silently in Church being lectured by the likes of Rudy, knowing he does not abide by his own vows?

      The New Year, is a time for reflection, but also for plans of action......what is yours going to be???

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  5. The mighty delusional Zoltan, too drunk from the KAKA warns his fellow zombies of how dangerous the Jungle is. Too bad

    ZoltanJanuary 1, 2016 at 11:58 PM
    Pope Francis just sent his New Year's message to every Catholic:

    "Communicators also have a responsibility for education and formation, especially nowadays, when the means of information and communication are so widespread. Their duty is first and foremost to serve the truth, and not particular interests. For the media “not only inform but also form the minds of their audiences, and so they can make a significant contribution to the education of young people. It is important never to forget that the connection between education and communication is extremely close: education takes place through communication, which influences, for better or worse, the formation of the person.”[27]

    Communicators should also be mindful that the way in which information is obtained and made public should always be legally and morally admissible."

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/messages/peace/documents/papa-francesco_20151208_messaggio-xlix-giornata-mondiale-pace-2016.html

    This is a strong message that, among others, applies to the situation of the church affairs on Guam, as well! Why? The Pope is very clear that communicators at every level must act in an ethically and morally responsible manner.

    If you just take a look at the trash tabloid website called Junglewatch and its cabal of hardcore users, you'll get astonished. They steal, leak, illegally obtain whatever new information they publish, which is morally inadmissible. They foolishly and openly brag about it day and night. Then they use the stolen information for blackmailing and deceiving people for monetary gain, which is legally inadmissible. That is exactly what the Pope is talking about!

    The beginning of the New Year is an excellent opportunity to discard what is old and useless so that you may start something fresh and new. It is time to discard Junglewatch and shut out that trash tabloid for good. Junglewatch and its chief editor Tim Rohr are becoming irreversibly old and stale news. That is why he is throwing in more and more filth and dirt in utter despair. But it won't help. People are just getting tired of the old and stale. Goodbye, Timmy, it is you who is shutting the wagon door closed on yourself.

    Let us enjoy a new and fresh start without Junglewatch. Let us follow Pope Francis who tells us the true name of those those who handle information in a morally and legally inadmissible manner. We should not have any common business with these bastards.

    Have a blessed New Year, folks, filled with good health, laughter, joy and happiness!

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    1. LOL. So says the person who can't stay away from my blog since I started it and who has tried to infiltrate it at least three separate times with three different pseudonyms and personalities, and who, as per this comment, just gave me more publicity than I could ask for. He'll probably wake up several times tonight to check it. LOL. Courage Zoltan.

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  6. Hey Tim!! you got it Right, The Right position were the Cigar. OR

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    1. Rudy. Still fixated on that cigar. LOL.

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    2. Rudee's use of his "cigar" is the only talent he has.

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  7. I understand that Adrian introduced and sold the NCW to Apuron? That explains why he is so adamant in defending the actions of the NCW in Guam, Even when he knows that they are teaching heretical doctrines, causing division in the church, he will continue to claim that it is producing good fruits. Your responsible for leading many souls astray Adrian..

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  8. I notice you said, "Bend Over, Diana". You did not mention apuron. Is it because we all know he bends over, backwards and forwards, for his neo handlers and his boy toys?

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    1. Not only does brother Tony know how to bend over, he also knows how to roll over, slide over, come over, turn over, go over, gloss over, make over, sing over, hide over, dance over, and the list goes on. Can't wait to see the day when it's all over for Tony and his Neo pals.

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    2. AT 4:24 you know a lot about bending over, you talking about Timmy ? or you drop the soap

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    3. Good Morning, Rudy. Maybe we should use that soap to wash your mouth out.

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    4. There you go again Rudy shooting your mouth off before comprehending what you read. It is YOU, RUDY, who taught Tony how to bend over.

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  9. Yes, they all bend over for Kiko. My use of the instruction was in response to Diana's defense that their permission lies in the fact that Rime hasn't stopped them, publicly spanked them, actually. So I volunteered to do it myself if that's what she likes. LOL. Courage.

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