Wednesday, July 19, 2017

ST. CARMEN?

Posted by Chuck White


Today, July 19, 2017 (on Guam) marks the first anniversary of the death of Carmen Hernandez, the co-founder of the Neocatechumenal Way, and the sect is now redoubling its efforts to get her canonized...Read more.

21 comments:

  1. Dear Chuck,
    why you call here cofounder and not confounder?
    I still hope you will translate my books about Kiko in English and, may be, implemented them with your knowledge, so that we could do a common edition.
    An edition in english could help some people and may be bishops or Neocatmembers to understand that they are belonging to a dangerous sect inside the church.
    If you are interested I can send you by email the whole text.

    Daniel Lifschitz

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  2. Do we already have a patron saint of schismatics?

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    1. We don't have a patron saint of lesbian schismatics yet. Carmen would be the first one.

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  3. There's a nauseating thought. Carmen and Kiko are Satan's conjoined twins.

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  4. A dossier of the heresy that this person has been spreading should be prepared so that when the deluded NCW cult promote their cause get her canonized the truth will be known.

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  5. What a presumptuous bunch of people these NCW followers are. How can Carmen be the "Renewer" of the Church. This is really usurping the power of the Holy Spirit. Renewal of the Church is God's work, any person involved in this process is only an instrument and not the first cause. Give Glory to God, not man.

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  6. What is a "unique kerygmatic announcement?"

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    1. Unique and for members only.

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    2. Kerygma announced not just by a regular saint, but a saint “of a superior category” that can only come from the NCW. Give me a freaken break... Guess that makes Kiko a saint of the highest possible category, next to Jesus in the highest heavens.

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    3. The original Spanish of the prayer is "un anuncio unico kerigmatico." "Unico" could mean unique or singular, or only. "Kerigmatico" is translated to "kerygmatic" in English, which is derived from the word "Kerygma", a Greek word which is used to mean the initial Gospel proclamation which is meant to introduce somebody to Jesus Christ. Kiko, of course, would never admit that others can and do proclaim the Gospel in a compelling and cogent way, hence the adjective, "unico".

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  7. Dear Chuck,


    Today I received this letter fro Australia: It should encouraging you to accept my proposal of a commun edition of my book: Kiko Arguello, saint or imosyer?


    Dear Daniel,
    Your artworks are truly beautiful and inspiring.
    Your courage speaking the truth about the Neocatechumenal Way is so important and please try to get your book translated to English and widely distributed.
    I was in the Neocatechumenal Way in Sydney for 4 years and my husband has been in the Cult of the Neocatcechmenal Way for more than 20 years. The negative ideas and judgements against people not in the Neocatechumenal way , the secretive controlling cult leaders and huge commitment of time and money is destroying so many marriages, families and parishes.
    My husband tells me he must obey the Catechists and they give him rosters of meetings that are 6-8 meetings per week from Easter to Pentecost and in Lent.
    Recently my son and husband ( behind my back) volunteered to be on the two by two mission - uncontactable x 16 days but somewhere in Australia in the middle of winter sent out to spread the NC. I rang the Catechists who told me the rules as set by Kiko- go out 2 by 2 - no money no food , no bags of clothes and no accomodation unless you beg from people you visit otherwise you sleep homeless. NC leaders preach that a wife must obey her husband and all members of the NC Way must obey the Catechists and this means there are many like my family members who may be sent overseas to dangerous countries like China or Muslim countries. My husband says he may go to China or Iran but he says he trusts the Catechists to discern Gods will for him. We have six children all studying at university or school , all dependant on us but my husband tells me that I should do more paid work and support the family because he wants to go on "mission" and he also wants the money I earn to go to his community - many of whom are on mission overseas with large families and rely on their Community of origin for money . His involvement in this group is causing immense suffering to our marriage and family.

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    1. Seems to me the Australian woman who wrote that letter to Daniel has all kinds of legal recourse against the NCW, especially if her son is under age 18.

      She needs a good plaintiff attorney who specializes in religious cults. The archdiocese might also be liable for permitting the NCW and their sadistic catechists to operate within its geographic boundaries.

      Based on what was said, I'm seeing reckless endangerment of both her husband and son. Both of them also seem to have severe mental health issues caused by the NCW. No one in their right mind would intentionally expose themself and their child to such danger and privation and no normal child would go for it.

      Where the suffering woman is concerned, severe emotional distress is obvious. Desertion and kidnhapping are also issues. She doesn't even know where her husband and son are, what condition they're in, or what they're actually doing. Were she and any other children left with adequate means of financial support before her husband went on this insane trip? If not, deadbeat dad laws come into play.

      Both the husband and son need immediate mental health interventions and deprogramming from the NCW. That family is well on the Way to destruction.

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    2. This is not news, the NCW is a cult and these are the fruits of the NCW. Many have encountered the similar problems with the NCW in their families and in their parishes. We should compile a record of these so that we can help expose the true nature of the NCW.

      Also the NCW have been boasting about preparing "missionaries" to be sent overseas to dangerous countries like China or Muslim countries. This is just NCW propaganda that they are using to convince the church that they are serious about evangelisation.

      While in actual fact it is NOT about evangelisation, they just want to expand their cult and they are targeting these countries because there are not many Catholics there, and if they get a foot-hold they can set up their own NCW cult religion and get away with all the heretical practices.

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    3. Best wishes here, just try to keep your head about you.

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    4. This is how serious the neos are. I propose an awful scenario to you. You love your husband clearly, but you are now a bystander as he obeys neo leaders. If you left him and said I can't live like this, I hope the neos would tell him to leave and be with you. Sorry to tell you they wouldn't say that. You need to get your husband out of the cult asap. They will all be expecting you to join. DONT.. GET HIM OUT

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    5. If this nutcase NCW missionary won't leave the diabolic cult, his wife should divorce him before his negligence destroys her and their six children. If she stays with him in that condition, she'll have no one to blame for the inevitable disaster but herself.

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    6. 2.48 p.m, they also target countries where there are lots of Catholics who are their real target population. Any fruits come because members have Catholic faith before they started, which gradually gets destroyed, which is why there are few additional fruits after the first few years. Outsiders like me get chewed and spat out - and maybe chronically ignored first. It isn't a "community", for one thing.

      They are not looking after the pastoral needs of the members they are going to send abroad. If anyone turns up "in mission", be sure not to let them volunteer because through no fault of their own their motivation has been made suspect.

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  8. If their saying is God will provide then why do they insist that families provide support?

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  9. Neos !! Where have they sprung from .. I wish they would go

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    1. Anon @9:55 AM, Neos are satan's own spawn. He plants their diseased larvae among the Faithful wherever they are found. It's up to you to get rid of them.

      They were never allowed to flourish in my diocese. The few of them here are mainly older foreign-born Hispanics and Filipinos in a couple of poor, ethnic parishes. Those churches are run by respectable diocesan priests. No cockroach Neo presbyters work here.

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