Monday, August 18, 2014

HE DID NOT!

In a statement released July 29, 2014, about his reasons for firing Monsignor James, Archbishop Apuron stated:

“I informed the Presbyteral Council, the College of Consultors and the Archdiocesan Finance Council about the situation, and they expressed support.” 

According to these priests, members of the Presbyteral Council and the College of Consultors, HE DID NOT!


Fr. Tom McGrath. S.J.
Fr. Jeff San Nicolas 
Fr. Mike Crisostomo
Fr. Patrick Castro, OFMCap
Fr. Gus Gumataotao, OFMCap. 


77 comments:

  1. No wonder Archie and his gang removed the Umatuna newspapers since he was repeating his lies. Glad to see those priests stand up and tell the truth.

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  2. Ai....another lie.

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  3. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 18, 2014 at 6:25 AM

    Tony baloney has finally reached new heights! We have come to expect his lies anytime he speaks. It just comes so natural for him that I really wonder if he even knows any more that he lies all the time.

    But now he employs a new method of lying that reaches new proportions. So proficient at telling untruths that he now lies on other people's behalf. He has reached the point where he will now lie for his brother priests.

    So advanced is his ability to lie we really are left with just one question.....
    Did he learn this from Fr Pius, or Giuseppi, or perhaps Kiko himself.

    Thanks once again for never failing to amaze your flock!

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    1. AAA has lied in speech and letters for years. He lost contact with reality and hence now has no awareness of what is true and what is not. The honesty issue worsened when he joined the way.

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  4. Is this "that letter" — a letter signed by five members of the Presbyteral Council and College of Consultors of the Archdiocese of Agaña ( and not by an attorney as I had thought) — which was stamped "Received" at 4:10 P.M. on 8 August 2014 and which prompted the frantic recall of the "wrong" first edition of the 10 August 2014 U Matuna Si Yu'os and the hurried printing of the "official" and "on record" of the second edition?

    At this point, I doubt that Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron has any intention of issuing a "clarification" his (mis)statement, per the closing words of the letter, since it's just one of many misstatements — written and verbal — since 16 July 2013.

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    1. This is a different letter.

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    2. Thank you for the clarification, Tim.

      I hope you get permission to release the contents of "that letter" so we can understand what caused the panic the afternoon of Friday 8 August 2014 and forced the printing of the "official" and "on record" edition — sorry, but I just LOVE those words from the Note! LOL — of the 10 August 2014 U Matuna Si Yu'os along with the recall of the "wrong" edition.

      I believe I'm just one of many "Inquiring Minds" who want to know …

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  5. Who are the other members of the Council?

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    1. with the way that priest are being removed from their positions, some of the Council members may be neo priests, or if not, the members may have the reluctance to say anything for fear of repercussions. jes of chalan pago

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    2. Anonymous (August 18, 2014 at 6:42 AM), according to the website of the Archdiocese of Agana found at http://www.aganaarch.org/diocesan-offices/consultative-groups/ the members are:

      • Presbyteral Council
      Rev. Msgr. David C. Quitugua, JCD
      Rev. Fr. Adrian Cristobal
      Rev. Msgr. Brigido Arroyo
      Rev. Msgr. David I.A. Quitugua
      Very Rev. Joseph English, O.F.M., Cap.
      Rev. Fr. Jose “Lito” Antonio Abad
      Rev. Fr. Patrick Castro, O.F.M., Cap.
      Rev. Fr. Jose Alberto Rodriguez
      Rev. Fr. Agustin Gumataotao, O.F.M., Cap.
      Rev. Fr. Jeffrey San Nicolas
      Rev. Fr. Thomas B. McGrath, S.J.

      • College of Consultors:
      Rev. Msgr. David C. Quitugua, JCD
      Rev. Fr. Adrian Cristobal
      Rev. Msgr. Brigido U. Arroyo
      Very Rev. Joseph English, O.F.M., Cap.
      Rev. Fr. Jose Alberto Rodriguez
      Rev. Fr. Thomas B McGrath, S.J.
      Rev. Fr. Jeffrey San Nicolas

      Although Fr. Michael Crisostomo is not listed on either the Presbyteral Council or the College of Consultors, I believe he might have signed the letter in his capacity as the President of the Association of Diocesan Clergy of the Archdiocese of Agana (ADCAA).

      Anonymous at 7:53 AM/jes of chalan pago is correct — some of the other members are NCW presbyters. The other members may have been reluctant to affix their signatures, so I appalled Fathers Tom McGrath, S.J.; Jeff San Nicolas; Michael Crisostomo; Patrick Castro, OFM Cap; Gus Gumataotao, OFM Cap for their courage and resolve in going on record about this latest lie — sorry, but I have to call it the way I see it — from the Chancery.

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    3. Sorry — I missed my typo (thanks, autocomplete and shame on me for not reading carefully):
      I APPLAUD (not appalled) Fathers Tom McGrath, S.J.; Jeff San Nicolas; Michael Crisostomo; Patrick Castro, OFM Cap; Gus Gumataotao, OFM Cap …

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    4. Oh but wait, there may be the statement that the 4 NCW members were consulted. As RESPONSIBLE NCW priests, it was their RESPONSIBILITY to tell the others.

      Dear Father_______________________,

      This is to inform you, that a memo was sent to your office regarding the meeting for the removal of Msgr. James Benavente. It was dated on ___________________.
      Please retract this statement in the upcoming Umatuna Si Yu'us otherwise you will be subjected to a painful closure.

      Pizza in your Eye,

      Fr. Adrian Crystal No Ball
      Chancellor of KIKO

      cc. Vicar General David C. Quitugua.

      Response from Msgr, Quitugua..via text message...well done Brother..Kiko will be so proud of you....What they say you have NO BALLS....Take COURAGE one day you will find them!

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  6. I wonder what Diana will say? Please send this to the nuncio.

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    1. I wonder what Elizabeth would say.

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    2. Elizabeth? Did you mean Elizabeth D? Let's ask JV?

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    3. "Diana" will say what "she" always says: These priests are being DISOBEDIENT to the Archbishop. "She" might also add that they are under the CONTROL of Tim Rohr, the same way "she" says the PDN is under his control. LOL

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  7. This is why APURON, QUITUGUA and CRISTOBAL are in the neo. They lied to us and now they can go to their neo community and they would listen to their echoes and everything will be alright. To me, they not only publicly lied to us, they destroyed the lives of the people who worked and serve the Hagatna Basilica. Now they all need to be removed. I cannot go to their masses and look at them. They are evil men.

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    1. Three of them are evil.

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  8. OOOLALA, signatures from other Priests. Now let see what would happen...The removal of Father Jeff from FDMS. Father Tom needs to find a new home or maybe go back to New York, and a whole Friary of priests uprooting and moving to Hawaii! Pale' Mike sent to the camp at St. Anthony like Msgr and Father Gofigan to be reformed.

    Trouble in the air!!!!!

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    1. Yes, it appears that St. Anthony is the parish of exile...
      Eileen Benavente-Blas

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    2. Fr. Tom you need to fly back to the free world before the dictator places you in prison. People describing Apuron as a modern day Idi Amin of Uganda.

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    3. Word is that Fr. Tom is no longer living at the rectory. We don't know if he was forced out for signing the letter or decided to go on his own knowing the grief he was about to get. We've heard he is greatly distressed. Pray for him.

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  9. Just like the financial advisers who were compelled to defend their integrity in response to untruths promoted by the Chancery, these very credible clergy had no alternative but to clear the record to protect their reputations as well.
    These prominent priests know that by remaining silent through a misguided notion of obedience, they would have been complicit in the false narrative released to the public.
    Again, this begs the question, is the Archbishop really creating these blunders on his own, or is he being dictated by others, with no direct connections to Guam, into actions with little care as to who is left damaged in the wake?
    Either way, it's his name being put to these releases with the false recounting. This letter should not be taken lightly.

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  10. The top three leaders need to start coming clean and tell the truth. Tim has more evidence of other things to come. Soon our Mother church will start to fall apart and look like the housing projects of Queens and Watts. These three leaders are not capable running the Basilica like Monsignor Benavente. They don't even know how to lie.

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  11. Just think if the Capuchins were told to uproot....The Friary is big enough to be a Neocatechumenary....so early in the morning and the thought of this is giving me nightmares!

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    1. More assets to give to Conchit Pius. Haha!

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  12. It took little to almost no delay between the time Father Gofigan and Monsignor Benavente met with the Archbishop to the time of their removal. Why the hindrance (over 10 days) in correcting the record of this obvious mis-truth?
    Perhaps because this severely damages the credibility of those who released the original statement from the Chancery describing the events of Mnsgr Benavente's removal.

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  13. Guarantee, we will not lose without fighting for the Capuchins.

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  14. To my recollection, the list of letters requesting some major retractions of releases coming from the Chancery include: the letter from Cardinal Tagle; the letter and subsequent press conference from the financial advisers of the Archdiocesan Development Group; and now this letter from a number of priest of the Presbyteral Council and the College of Consultors.
    We need to stop remaining anonymous and display our real concerns for our Archdiocese just like these men have!

    How many more of these letters have to be presented, in which these men accredited with their names, before you're compelled to place your name to your comments?

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    1. Jose M., thank you for refreshing our memories of past requests for retractions — including the one from Cardinal Tagle.

      As someone who has been posting with my name — and being on the receiving end of threats and/or insults on "Diana's" blog — I'm with you 100%. It would be good to see a few more names — like yours and Gerald A. Taitano, for example — instead of strings of "Anonymous." Even posting with one's Confirmation name would be preferable than seeing all these "Anonymous" ones.

      To those who post as "Anonymous" and then write their names at the end of their comments, please don't scroll all the way to "Anonymous" when you plan to submit your comment. Please:
      • STOP on "Name/URL" (it's right before the "Anonymous" box)
      • TYPE your name in the "Name" box (instead of at the end of your comment)
      • CLICK "Continue" and choose Publish (OR Preview if you want to check your spelling/grammar)

      Thanks!

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  15. My condolence to Deacon Hagen as he was shown celebrating hi wedding anniversary. Last guy who had celebrated an anniversary with the Arch Bishop got canned. Been nice knowing you deacon.

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    1. And did you see the expression on Deacon Hagen's face the Umatuna photo? Not quite a smile...

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  16. Is it better to be a liar or to be disobedient? Something these neocrats need to ponder. They probably need to gather and overnight at a luxurious hotel, eat steak and lobster, then discuss if they should follow the three liars or be disobedient. I think their brains are so warped that they would follow the three liars than to burn in hell for being disobedient. So they can think they made the right decision and gather the next weekend at another luxurious hotel and eat more steak and lobster. Then they can also conclude that they made the right decision and think they are going straight to heaven.

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  17. Isn't the Archbishop a Capuchin. He is supposedly a follower of Saint Francis of Assisi.

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  18. Arch won't publicly correct his "misstatements." Does he even write the stuff that he signs???
    Eileen Benavente-Blad

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    1. Oops, typo in my name--
      Eileen Benavente -BlaS

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  19. Father Matthew Blockley.August 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM


    Thank you to these Good Priests who stand by truth and Justice for the integrity of Mother Church. Let the Truth Prevail.

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  20. Fact: he does not write STUFF he signs.

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    1. That statement to include his homilies.

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    2. yea, he may not write anything, but he should read them first, at least!

      hello, everybody knows to read before you sign...well, maybe the "I did not read it argument" will be reason he will use use next to explain how he signed and backed all the financial decisions and loans that supported Msgr. James' projects, after he was forcibly intoxicated by a dozen bloddy mary mixed drinks! Hilarious!!!

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    3. Bloody Mary's....I thought he only drank Korean Lemon Soju.

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    4. oh no, he likes the ladies' drink, bloody mary. Just ask business class flight attendants.

      well, his taste could have changed, he takes it straight up: kikoaide

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    5. Wonder if he had the pleasure of lemon soju while in Korea with some saggee,saggee, but wait...if he did, then the saggee, sagger, cashee,cashee, lunchee,lunchee, kimchee,kimchee, out here will not be happy.

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    6. Kissee Kissee not be happee happee with kimchee kimchee !

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  21. Not surprised if this magnificent lie already found the way to the Apostolic Delegate.

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  22. LIAR! Archbishop Anthony Apuron, you are a liar!

    You lied and deliberately accused and misrepresented the facts about Msgr. James and handling of finances. You even spoke FOR Deloitte, a reputable firm and showed their findings in the wrong light. You are not allowed to publish their report by altering it to make it more favorable to you! It makes them look unprofessional and well, unreliable. So if one owns a high power firm such as that, wouldn’t they want to protect their business and their reputation? I wonder if they can sue you for that.

    Now you lie, as you speak for priests? Our Guam priests that are not just seasoned, but intelligent and most importantly, honorable. These priests have been serving Guam for many years. They are trusted clergy and have shown their love their vocation and the people. We are at awe at the fearlessness of these priests and we will fervently pray for them, that you Archbishop Apuron would curb your accursed ways and refrain from inflicting any kind of pain and harm upon them.

    We know what you are capable of! You may not do it all that soon, maybe not even this year, but your spitefulness knows no expiration date. You will try to harm these virtuous priests to avenge yourself and most especially, your neo obsession. Avenge what? I cannot say, for you do not have an ounce of decency left in you, by the virtues of your actions, Archbishop Apuron. Shame on you!

    You Neo Leaders are not off the hook either- msgr david, fr. Adrian, fr. Pius etc. We know you are also behind all of the numerous transgressions by the Archbishop, because we know that you are up at his ears directing him. We are not fooled.

    Please send this letter to Krebs and all authorities that can help Guam.
    More letters to write, P.S. Archbishop Krebs, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, Again!

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  23. Has this letter or a copy been sent to Your Excellency Archbishop Martin Krebs, if not, it should go out immediately and with annotation.

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  24. Wonder if the Archbishop can now sit down with his fellow Friars to have AGAPE with them. How can he look them in the eye when two of his own signed this letter. I know in my heart that the Caps try not to get involved, but I guess they too need to protect their integrity. If the Caps signed this, then I know it is the truth.

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    1. It's the truth, all right. Don't doubt me.

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  25. Dark days lay ahead for our beloved Church. But it is always darkest before dawn so the sooner the better. Let the healing begin soon AAA, you have lost your ability to lead. i beg you to step aside for the good of the Church. .

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  26. Come on you guys, didn't the Bible say forgive your fellowman, 70 x 7? He doesn't even have 100 yet from my last count. Altho, the way he is lying, it should come soon enough.

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  27. Could this letter be the reason there was no A/C at the 6:00pm Mass this past Saturday and at the 7:30am Mass Sunday? Doesn't Fr. Tom preside over these Masses? Hasn't he done so for years? Are they already trying to kick him out of the Cathedral after all the years he has been in residence?

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    1. Maybe the new Rector doesn't know how to turn on the Aircon... I heard he didn't know the password. But we might never know the real reason.

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    2. I was driving by the Agana Cathedral-Basilica around 8:30 PM this past Saturday and the parking lot next to the Plaza was filled. Bet there was A/C for that group.

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    3. Forgot to add Fr. Tom presided over the 7:00 PM mass on Sunday and there was A/C, but I noticed something was added to the left and to the right of the statue of St. Joseph. Wish I had a camera with me because it looked like Neo symbols/décor.

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    4. Yes we did! For we are blessed and favored by our beloved Archbishop. Why? Are you jealous? Jealousy is a sin. You are most welcome to enjoy the coolness of the a/c during our Eucharist. Come anytime, Joy!

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    5. The chancery 3 got rid of Fr. Francis Hezel, SJ. A friend of Guam and the Micronesian Region. Cancelled his insurance, took the car away and told him to pack his bags. How sad. This took place a few months ago. I guess they needed room at the rectory for Harold and Michael j.

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    6. @9:21 didn't Fr. Hezel superior ask him to return?

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    7. Micronesians upset over sudden recall of Jesuit priest
      http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/radio/program/pacific-beat/micronesians-upset-over-sudden-recall-of-jesuit-priest/1202472

      Hundreds of Micronesians protest over the sudden recall of Jesuit priest
      http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/radio/program/pacific-beat/hundreds-of-micronesians-protest-over-the-sudden-recall-of-jesuit-priest/1202696

      I confirmed with Fr. Hezel on 10/10/13 that he does not know why he was suddenly removed from Guam and Micronesia. He was beginning work to help with the museum at the time of his removal.

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    8. Tim, I remember reading all those articles about Fr. Hezel his wonderful contributions and the PETITION for him to stay here. Does this mean the gears were already set in motion against the non neo clergy before we realized it? Somebody stop this machine of destruction!

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    9. Wasn't he also helping with the Work toward the canonization of Blsd. Diego?

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  28. Dear Archbishop Apuron, (also applies to Msgr. David, Fr. Adrian),

    You have continued to lie to me. I cannot let you abuse me: financially, emotionally, but most of all, spiritually any more. You no longer uphold the vow you have declared to me.

    You have a mistress, a cha’mak--- that Neo!

    Enough is enough! I want a divorce. Better yet, I want an annulment. So that when Guam history is written, your name would not be in the books, because this marriage will be dissolved, as if it did not happen!

    Come to think of it, I may not even be granted that annulment because I am not a kiko member. My coffers have gone empty and I no longer have the money to pay you for our annulment because you and your cha’mak continue to siphon my money, while you deeply hurt our children, the TRUE Catholics.

    Still, I want OUT and away from you. Enough is Enough!

    Your Bride,
    The One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic CHURCH

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  29. At 490 lies, I think, the Arch has far reached his quota.

    Even passing off someone else's writing as his own homily is a lie in itself. Never has he ever given any reference to the actual writer of his read "statements." He not once ever said, "this homily was written for me by...msgr. david or fr. adrian or fr. pius or kiko or some seminarian..."

    We teach even our school children that plagiarism is a form of lying and is bad. There are deep repercussions to the plagiarist, once proven that they've lied in their work.

    Jesus knows that the Arch has at least lied 491 times already and I believe that all these lies have been revealed to us, so that we can "Open our eyes...and..,see God's face" (from Jesse Manibusan, OCP).

    God's truth is NOT with the NEOS and NOT with the ARCHBISHOP, MSGR. DAVID, FR. ADRIAN, FR. PIUS and all the other cathecists and leaders of this CULT!

    Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY, the TRUTH and the LIGHT! He already died for us. Only HE can lead us to salvation!

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    1. Majority of his stuff comes from 365 days from paulist press Philippines.

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  30. Hey, is OJ here or on vacation....is it Father Fabio who is at OLSJ Chalan Pago subbing while gone?

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  31. I'm so confused! Who is Elizabeth D and JV?

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  32. "Many people [in authority] oppose us, persecute us, and would like even to destroy us, but we must be patient. As long as their commands are not against our conscience, let us obey them, but when the case is otherwise, let us uphold the rights of God and of the church, for those are superior to all earthly authority." -- St. John Bosco

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  33. what on earth is going on with the archbishop? was archbishop apuron imagining things, or was he outright making things up?

    the first scenario is worrisome, in that it makes his mental state a cause for concern. the second scenario is plainly a shameful and sinful act.

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  34. Marilu D. MartinezAugust 19, 2014 at 6:09 AM

    It's become clearer and clearer that our Archbishop is not just being influenced by someone or some others; but it is also quite obvious that he is tightly wrapped around their fingers and functioning not as our shepherd concerned about the spiritual welfare of the souls of his flock; not as the Catholic leader of our Archdiocese with an interest in the protection and the welfare of the future of the Catholic congregation and Catholic Church of Guam; and not even as the spiritual father and guide of the clergy entrusted to his care, but obviously, he is catering to and functioning as a puppet of certain individuals or entity and movement.

    We cannot continue pretending not to notice; continue pretending we do not hear, nor continue pretending we aren't aware about these recent realities: the fact that two separate, very credible and reliable groups repudiated two major lies coming from the Archbishop, himself. These two separate repudiations (about two separate occurences) came first, from several competent professional and former archdiocesan finance committee members as a unified group and the second from faithful, trustworthy, responsible and long-time locally-respected Clergy also as a unified group!

    Faithful Catholics: know that your voice is very important and that your voice really matters! Please advocate for the things you believe in! ... what is more important and more pressing than the protection and the preservation of our Catholic Faith -- OUR AUTHENTIC CATHOLIC FAITH AND CHURCH. Please let your voice be heard.

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    1. The credibility of the AB is at stake. How can his credibility be restored and trust in
      his homilies if you can't trust him with the truth and God?

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  35. I think he is increasingly delusional among other things. He loved to sing while celebrating Mass as a priest. He thought he was such a good singer that he put out a CD when he became Bishop and opened up a radio station. He has a video about his "holy" life. I think we can expect a declaration of "sainthood" in the future.

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    1. Obviously he believes that the doctrine of papal infallibility applies to himself.

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  36. Tim, who is JV and Elizabeth?

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    1. Nevermind. I found out. Thank you so much kind sir.

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  37. Why would anyone label these 5 priests as "wimps"? Do they even know what the word means? A wimp is a coward or someone having no backbone. These 5 priests took a stand on spoke out!

    Maybe you are the wimp who cannot survive without your community...you are just a bunch of leech hanging on each other. You need to grow up and leave the nest of the Kiko birds!

    AnonymousAugust 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM
    Those 5 priests who wrote the letter to the Archbishop are a bunch of wimps who cannot accept authority. They need to grow up!

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