What's wrong.... do you mean besides Archbhishop behaving RUDELY?
The pope was not rushing to his car?
Holy Father, don't squeeze into that tiny KIA Soul...come with me, I have an Equus and a Chauffeur Harold. C'mon, ditch those security guys, I have Edivaldo he'll have your back. We can talk in the back seat.
Why not "caption this pic".
Here's a hint. Why is Archbishop Apuron catching Pope Francis as he is getting into his car rather than being received formally as certainly all the other bishops were and as is the norm for such meetings?
And one more hint. Once you know who took the pic you should be able to figure it out.
Speculating again Tim?
Speculating again, coward, about my speculating, if it is speculating?
How come the Archbishop's ENTOURAGE were all NEO?
According to the 24 August 2014 edition of the U Matuna Si Yu'os: Photos courtesy of Fr. Edivaldo Silva Oliveira.
And what if it was all neo? Why would he want to take people who don't care for him? He's a horrible Bishop right?
What good is it to love those who love you? Even the heathen do as much. - Jesus
@5:17 pm he was pretty much sneaking to Korea. NO notice...just off with Harold, (that's getting old) Edivaldo and one seminarian to carry the bags. Terrific. HE TOOK ALL NEO, yes, that makes him sort of horrible. Neo to canonization, Neo to all the ordination journeys, Neo to the restaurants, Neo to the beach with Kimchee. It is horribly divisive it what it is. Let's see how much time he puts in down Malojloj.
@7:07PM And? Jealous? You shouldnt be, apparently he's a horrible Bishop. Would you still accompany him with all that has been said?
Lol, 1:55am! I love how you all just completely miss the point (the Archbishop is showing favoritism towards the NCW, thus continuing to further divide his flock) and immediately drop one of the 7 Deadly Sins card along with a "neener neener" comment. Now, take back that high five you gave yourself for being so clever!
I'm surprised how all who oppose him are "all talk".
I'm surprised how all who support him are supportive.
Tim,The setting of the picture has always bothered me. Here was archbishop catching the Pope as he was about the get in his car, perhaps on his way to the airport. That is truly odd. I can understand one of the faithful Korean Catholics breaking rank and running up to the Pope to get his blessing as he was leaving(actually, Koreans are respectful and disciplined so that would not have happened with a Korean), but an archbishop? It certainly broke protocol because as you can see, there are no other dignitaries around but the bodyguards. This seems like a SET UP! And since this picture was readily available and posted on the archdiocese website, it had to be taken by someone accompanying the archbishop.
I'll take a stab. Gerranine? (I am sure I didn't spell that right. Sorry.) Or was it Kiko himself? That guy from North Korea?. This is really a shameless photo op. How was he able to get that close? Edivaldo must have been taking the picture. He couldn't protect the pope and take picture at the same time.
It is a rather unusual photo, even when I first saw it printed in the Umatuna. Obviously, it was not an official photo as official photos are not released till much later. So, the shot had to have been taken by someone traveling with Apuron; otherwise, how could he have obtain the photo? Could it have been taken by his driver? I'm not talking about the Holy Father's driver. I meant Apuron's driver. I guess membership does have its privileges...
Wait a minute. I thought Harold was the official driver of the top dawg!
Harold, the driver. What are they discussing as they ride along the roads of Guam? Nothing? Guaranteed the ARCH is saying all kind of things none of Arrogant Harold's business. Archie used to drive himself; but the Equus sort of calls for a chauffeur, don't you think so?
I am bothered by this fact. If the archbishop was invited to join other Asian bishops to greet the Pope in Korea, why was this not announced in advance in the Umatuna and in the other media. I mean, this is Big and Huge news, to get invited to meet with the Pope. I mean, the Umatuna published, falsely I may add, that Cardinal Tagle invited Kiko and the Guam Neo to Manila to attend a youth conference. That was known in advance. Why wasn't this? I mean, with all the bad publicity the archbishop was getting after firing Fr. Paul and Monsignor James, this was one positive news for him which he can shout out! This smells fishy to me!
Sniff, Sniff, Sniff...yup, fishy smell.
"Holy Father, I quit. OK with you?"
Too funny. Anonymous September 10, 2014 at 4:47 PM posts:"Holy Father, I quit. OK with you?"What Anon left out was the Popes response:"What took you so long, my wayward son. I have been praying for this day for quite some time. I accept your resignation. Now run along home and pack your bags. We will soon have a worthy successor to Peter sent to Guam. Ciao!"
Kiss, kiss....no protocol. Supposed to remove his zuchetto in deference to the Holy Father. Never mind.
Too bad we don't run after him when he dashes off in his Equus...with his deacon driver. Arcbhbishop, wait! Wanna tell ya somthin!!
So, what? That's not Brother Tony?
Just slipped off to Korea...and only found out bout his Neo cleric companions when the award winning journalist Edivaldo wrote U Matuna article in the Neo Catholic paper of Agana.
I've seen this picture before and it was Edivaldo who took credit for the picture. Looks like the Pope was not expecting him and the bodyguard closest to the Pope did not look all too pleased. I take it as just another photo op to give people the impression that AAA and the Pope enjoy a good relationship. Read about what the Pope had to say earlier this year about bishops. http://www.religionnews.com/2014/02/27/pope-francis-church-needs-better-bishops-go-find/ You will learn that AAA is NOT the type of bishop our Pope wants for the Catholic Church.
Anyone can get a photo with the pope. Obviously he wanted this photo for publication. No need to read anything more into this photo. People who blog on this page already have photos of self with pope Francis. Difference is the photos are not published.
Holy Father, I gave our Yona property to the NCW, I did the right thing, didn't I? Pleeeez, say I did. One more thing, may I have a Red Hat? Pleeeeez? I really want a RED HAT. I want a red hat, I want a red hat. Where's the photo of those guys dragging him away shouting I want a red hat, I want a red hat. Edivaldo, do you have that shot, love to see it.
Backside cardboard cut out of Apuron propped up next to Pope! I saw that cut out at the museum before it was closed. He likes that pose; more hair!
This is not one of the photos in the U Matuna...he definitely side vaulted the barrier! You're killing me, Tim.
More photos of Korean trip by AAA. Photos by edivaldo. http://www.aganaarch.org/7850/archbishop-apuron-in-korea/
You gotta go to: http://www.aganaarch.org/7850/archbishop-apuron-in-korea/Great photos of Archie Ton-ster smooching with the big boys in Korea. First thing I notice is that both photos with our "shepherd for the flock of 500" and the Holy Father, is that both are ambushes. They are both taken as the Pope is ready to leave an event. Tony must have been lurking in the shadows waiting for the right time to pounce, when the Holy Father is near his car. Why no pictures during an actual event you may ask? Because our shepherd of the 500 was not invited to any actual events...he's Filipino, not Korean!I love the photos of Tony with the other VIPs. He must have had high level meetings with the Vatican spokesman, and the Secretary of State!Alas, no meetings, just a photo op when they caught a few unsuspecting targets outside a building, or while real bishops de-vest after a mass and an imposter (that's our shepherd for 500) peddles chocolate to bribe a meeting with the Holy Father with a box of Guam candy.The caption of Tony with the MC is priceless. Tony was "housed" in the same hotel as Monsignor Marini. In common language, that means that the shepherd for 500 couldn't stay at an upscale hotel with the invited bishops, so he rented a room at the same place as the priests. I was once housed at the Plumeria...wow, what a treat!Thanks Fr OJ for the poorly framed photos and the imaginative captions. Where's the picture again where Pope Francis tells Tony to keep doing the same?
There was a photo at an event. Br. Tony sleeping at Mass. Oh, well. It wasn't exactly Eucharist with the brothers. Boring.
He was telling the Pope not to read the Blog...hahahahahahahaha
An act of desperation!
Archbishop"Psst, we're good right your holiness, just wanted to make sure" the Pope" I don't know Tony, we have to wait to see what the nuncio has to say"
If you look at the Korean bodyguards, all eyes were on AAA, as though they were not expecting this and were ready to pounce just in case.
Is there anything authentic and sincere in what AAA does?
Slipping the Pope an envelope from Kimchee! Generous!
This photo says many, he probably submitted a list to who will be EXCOMMUNICATED, be leary.
HOW did he get there? There are no other bishops; only security. Strange. Everything is strange these days. Where is Pius?
Anon 7:17 PM good point, no other Bishops and it appear high security. Concerning I must admit with a serious look on the Pope. Start running.
I noticed that the Archbishop was not on the list of bishops that will participate in next month's Synod that will convene in Rome next month. The theme for the Synod “Pastoral challenges to the family in the context of evangelisation”. The aim of the meeting is to propose to today's world the beauty and the values of the family, which emerge from the proclamation of Jesus Christ Who disperses fear and supports hope. Perhaps Apuron did not receive an invitation by the Holy Father to participate.
Better check where the AAA is going then. He is leaving sometime next week and won't be back until the 1st week of October.
He doesn't want to be around when the Cathedral crumbles and crashes. That way he can blame David and Adrian, and the Rectora Aux Bishop Coreen.
Jen Dulla says Tony was personally invited to attend by Cardinal Tagle since he has a family of 500. NOT! But it would be just like our shepherd to only 500 to find a way to invite himself to appear important. Sorry guy, this synod is for REAL leaders!
Going to pick up more RMS seminarians at Porto San Gregorio gathering. Pius left already!! That's my educated guess. Don't try to go up to San Ramon and slash tires...security cameras every where. Then put the bill for lights and cameras on Msgr.nJames expense sheet! Does this sound like a plan??
Priorities, gotta go fishing in the big stocked pond of foreign seminarians. Hope it's a good catch, Arch A Bishop!
Tony is not an airport bishop. Anyhow, they don't listen to him. He got laughed out of town when he intervened to recline as if at a banquet for Communion! The Synod will do fine without him.
@3:25, maybe this is reason that all cameras at the Cathedral are no longer on, did the new administration removed the cameras & installed these equipments at the Chancery & at the Arch private residence located at Adacao? Those equipments were paid by the Cathedral through the donations of the parishioners. By the way, who is paying for Micky Boy's new 2014 Elantra?
AAA will be there with his driver/photographer outside the meeting room waiting for the Pope to exit so he can chase him down and slip him another letter of his successes in Guam. Lol!!
Not going to Synod in Rome this is Extraordinary to PLAN for Synod of 2015. No Tony in Roma.
There it is again -- archbishop and his cohorts insulting our intelligence! That they would shamelessly stoop to sneak in and snap those pictures is embarassing enough for Guam Catholics; but to flaunt those pictures online with deceitful captions, convinced they would WOW and IMPRESS us or even convince us of its authenticity -- that simply adds to our anger over our hierarchy's on-going scandals and insults to our intelligence!
Yep. Looks like he's slipping the Pope a letter. Do you have a copy of the letter, Tim?
Yeah Tim can you steal a letter or any of your priest friend leak another letter like you always do.
Most insincere dishonest bishop in the church Apuron.
Actually had no business over there. He is not part of asian bishops conference.Maybe he's complaining. I don't want to smell like my sheep. Pope said: what's your name? Didn't I tell you to stay home? You are not allowed to say mass in the airport.
OMG!! Laughing out loud!!
After careful analysis of this picture and the other one on the Archdiocese website, here's what I think the conversation was:AAA: "Francis, Francis, wait up!" (Remember, Kiko is now his "Holy Father")Pope Francis: "Oh geez, you again?!? I don't remember inviting you! Guards, don't tackle him. I got this one. Lord, give me strength. What, in the name of St. Peter, are you whining about now?!??AAA: "Francis, I printed out comments from the Diana's blog, saying how great I am. Read it. It talks about how great the Neo are too. Don't read the Junglewatch blog. They lie a lot. Pretty soon I'll have the first full NEO Archdiocese in the world. Pretty cool, huh?"Pope Francis: "Really??!? You spent the congregation's tithing to fly out here to give me this?And you brought those 2 knuckleheads with you, Inky & Binky? First class again, right? Father, give me restraint. Come closer, Anthony, I want to tell you something special."AAA: "Yes, Francis?"Pope Francis: "Remember your rant to those fine young men at FD before the final blessing at mass, especially the part that only the Pope can remove you? Well, you keep this up and I WILL remove you. I told you, you screwed up. I also told you to knock off this BS, get over yourself, man up, and take care of ALL our people. And don't you dare use the mass as a venue to continue your Neo testimonies. What in the name of God, our Father, is your biggest malfunction, guy? I sent the Nuncio out there as a courtesy and warning to you, that you screwed up. Don't make me come out there and throw down! I'LL WIN, KNUCKLEHEAD! Do you get it now? Fix it before I do, because if I have to fix it, you, your henchmen and the Neo will be out for good! Get it? Got it? Good. Get outta here and may God bless you...A LOT. Boy, do you need it!"AAA: "Yes, Francis, I got it. Thank you. God bless you, too."Pope Francis: "One more thing, Anthony."AAA: "Yes, Francis?" Pope Francis: " I heard and read that the NCW brainwashes people, but I didn't think it made people stupid. If you ever address me as 'Francis' again, in public or private, or show up uninvited again, I won't let the guards tackle you. I'll knock you on your ass myself! Now get outta here, you're giving me an upset stomach!"AAA: "Yes, Holy Father. Sorry I came uninvited. Good seeing you, though. Bye"AAA to Inky & Binky: " He's on our side guys! We have his blessing again! Wait til I tell the NCW! Pius, Gennarini and Kiko will be so pleased! Maybe they'll let me think on my own now."Pope Francis to his bodyguards: "Sorry about that, guys. Just another nut I gotta crack. If they follow us, have them arrested for stalking and sent home. Now, let's something to eat. I have a bad taste in my mouth after talking to that guy. Kalbi and bulgolgi, my treat!" Bodyguards: "You da man, Holy Father! You da man!"I could be wrong about the kalbi and bulgolgi, but I doubt it.
This is just too hilarious!!
Hi im not from Guam but if the bishop is leaving then he is probably going to porto st giorgo. The ncw has their meeting there around this time of the year, September. You can bet kiko will be there along with genarini. Also many rectors will go and those who stood up to go to seminaries.
Probably why the AAA is leaving or probably has left for this meeting. Word has it he won't return until the 5th of October!
He gave Pope some chocolates...
Thank God Tony didn't slip the Holy Father any of that kiko-koolaid!
A box of K-Mart Guam chocolates, smashed and melted in his suitcase. UGH. What a gift for the Pope. He should have given him an ipod with his talks to the students of Guam...you know, like Obama gave to the Queen E, an ipod with his own speeches. Low class. OR, maybe the gift was his CD's plenty left to go around.
What is wrong with the picture? Today at the 5:45am mass, the doors to the chapel was not opened until 5:35am. Parishioners who normally come in before 5 AM were made to stand outside the chapel or sit in their cars.This is what happens when the old man and his faithful servant decided to resigned! There was no rosary or other daily prayers said as it is customary for the old faithful ones for way back when. You NEOS never participated in the morning services until a neo rector came in. Why? Now that you have a take over, you need to do the jobs that are left behind by those who have left! Do not depend on the old faithful. Do not ask, where is what, how to do what, and who is to do what! You need to do it yourselves. Ike Camacho, you need to install yourself as the morning altar server...or don't you know how to do it! If not, maybe Coreen can do it.On another note, in another parish, the preacher man talked about the DEVIL! "The devil is present today. Just look at what is happen ending our diocese. Just look at ISIS! Was he comparing the problems of our diocese to ISIS? I think so! Talk about beheading....who is beheading whom...preacher man?
1:16PM yeah you forget the mess of Financial mess up the last administrator did. When revealed you'll end up burrying your head in the sand. You bicker way to much, cry to who made this mess.
Like you even know what you're talking about 9:18. Who is the pastor of the Cathedral?
9:18 AM (9/21/14). Like Diana, DID YOU NOT READ THE POST? DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? Did I mention the financial situation in my post? I mentioned the fact the the two lazy bums did not get up to open the chapel leaving people waiting outside! This would have never happened if the old man and his faithful servant did no turn in their keys. They were quite insulted at the statement made about them.AAAALOOOOHA thinks that his faithful altar server will be there Tuesday. He won't. These two men were faithful in every which way. Now you 9:18, I am assuming are a NEO, tell Jackie Terlaje to get her behind and open the Chapel at 4:45 AM. She apparently is holding the key to all the decisions made in the Archdiocese. Only makes sense that she holds the keys to the Chapel, the storage room, the main church, and the St. Therese Chapel. maybe her husband can help her roll up the door facing the Academy.As for the finances, it's all a second guess. Mere speculation on the Chancery's part. I am sure that you will be the one burying your head in the sand. Better yet, bury your head in someone else's ass.
"Shut your mouth!!! How dare you complain that the doors were opened a whole 10 minutes before Mass begins? What are you crying about? You're even lucky that that Chamorro 5:45 Mass is still available! Be grateful Anon 1:16 that there was even Mass!" ~Cathedral's All NEO Administration"P.S. Let it be known that some Masses start even half an hour late, then we blame another priest when the presbyter actually forgot he was scheduled for it and barged in to pretend to come to the rescue. Don't blame him, he was watching the movie he's going to quote on his next homily. Father needs ummm uhhh research his material!"
You cannot be sure you are even attending a valid Mass when a neo-presbyter says it. The priest "must intend at least what the church intends". We know that Kiko teaches that the Mass is not a Sacrifice in the way that the Church teaches that it is. This is why he refuses to conform his communion rite to the Church's instructions. Thus we cannot be sure that the eucharist is validly confected when a neo-presbyter says the words of consecration. Go someplace where you can at least be sure...until that is taken away from you too.
That's right. According to the voice of the neos, it's not a sacrifice but a "meal" and that is why they sit when they consume the Body of Christ.
"Members of the Way celebrate the Eucharist in a way where the assembly gathers around a banquet meal."
"Whoever heard of a banquet where the guests stand to eat?" His Excellency Anthony Sablan Apuron (Filipino name) O.F.M. Cap., Deee. Deee famous quote!!
IT is not a banquet meal but a table of chasers.
Tim, I am confused. Recently I saw Msgr. Bibi and told him I've heard that the NCW members do not believe in the Real Presence. He emphatically insisted they do. Other NCW members have insisted that they believe in the Real Presence also. Do they believe in the Real Presence in a different way than the rest of us?
3:39PM I will answer this in a post.