Wednesday, May 4, 2016

ANOTHER LETTER TO A BISHOP

Posted by Chuck White



I recently received a copy of a letter from a Catholic in another country to his bishop regarding the "spiritual violence and extortion" that he experienced at a Neocatechumenal convivence...Read more

12 comments:

  1. Very disturbing. Thanks for posting this, Chuck.

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  2. Wow. What an impact the cult has on this small faith community where the minority are non kikos.
    While the kikos are a very small minority here on Guam the cult owns the chancery hierarchy. And as we saw with the island wide "mass" with a cardinal, the kilos have clearly made a statement that they now own the cathedral as well. And several parishes are Kiko havens like barrigada and agafagumas.
    I pray we don't become like the small community this poor man writes about.

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    1. The NCW tactic is to get control of the head of the Church (Apuron, David and Adrian willingly gave up and became members of) and hence are able to force the NCW cult to some of the parishes. Now some people may not think this is a critical issue, but in those parishes that have NEO presbyters in charge, what theology and liturgical practices do we expect them to be propagating except that which is ingrained in their training at the RMS factory.

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  3. Susan T BajkusaMay 5, 2016 at 7:46 AM

    Quite an interesting letter given that this person was a former Lutheran. This person wasn't born into Catholicism and we don't know how many x amount years he/she has had experiencing and growing into the Catholic faith yet, he/she was able to discern that something wasn't right with how things were done within the "neo way" versus the Catholic teachings.

    I was an active church volunteer and an active member of the parish in Chalan Pago many moons ago. When the way was introduced into the parish, no big deal, I treated it like another organization or church group to immerse oneself into which wasn't for me. I was invited by my godparents to one of their saturday night celebrations. Out of courtesy I went, I saw, I heard, I did not like, it was not for me. I respected my godparents choice and they respected mine. Then "certain members" of the way within the parish started their "persecution" mode and with the help of Fr. Santiago they were slowly overtaking the church. People were replaced, access to church grounds for functions /meetings denied, etc. Slowly the people started leaving for other parishes.

    Fast forward, I used to work at a religious gift shop and I was quite good in my knowledge of the faith and how to deal with each customers personal needs. While working there we encountered many people incuding those of other faiths. Right of the bat we could tell when a neo member walked through our doors. It wasn't hard to spot, they had an air of attitude about them, a "I'm too good for you" or "I've been persecuted", but we treated them just as we would any other customer. Problem there was that we did not agree with the "neo ways" and there have been many an in-office discussion of disgust about the neo way, yet we cater to them. Many times I have wanted to speak my mind to the "neo" customers and try to give them something to think about. Many times I've wanted to get involve and protest what was happening with our church. But I couldn't, it was bad for the family that owned the business I was working for. I was told constantly we would lose customers, taint the name, etc. It felt like I was being held hostage, I couldn't speak out and defend my faith and at the same time I had to bow down to these neos when they walked through the doors. I was angry at one point that I told my boss I wanted to go to the archbishop's place and give him a piece of my mind, but of course, I couldn't as per boss.

    Here lies the problem, I'm guessing a lot of our faithful catholics do not want to speak out for fear of being shunned, tainting family name, ruining their family business or losing their jobs (that's if their boss is a neo). So we go about our business as if it's not a big deal. We want to do something about it, but we can't, we lack courage to stand up for our faith and we leave it to other people to fight our battles for us. Maybe now is the time to ask yourself WWJD or better yet, what would Jesus want me to do?

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    1. Very powerful, Susan.

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    2. TIM work at gift shop, with little boys right TIM,was that Guam boy

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    3. Hi Rude-ee. Typing with one hand again? LOL.

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    4. Susan T BajkusaMay 5, 2016 at 5:35 PM

      Sorry 1:55 I never worked for Tim. I may know of Tim because we share the same faith and because he is well known within the catholic community but that is all. I have posted my real name, I did not use a pen name or make one up. You can search me on Facebook to see my identity because I am as real as I can get. Mist people on Guam may not know my name but they know my face, I've worked many a job and have been many a places on the island!

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  4. Susan T BajkusaMay 5, 2016 at 8:21 AM



    And then there are many neo members who are staunch in their ways. Little by little they were led to believe that this was their saving grace, their salvation. They have invested so much of their time, their family, their social and proffessional lives, their money and possesions and have reached a point where they feel that if they give up on it now then it is all for naught. These are members willing to do anything and everything to save face. They don't want to be in the wrong and they sure don't like it if they are proved wrong. They hold too much pride within themselves because they have been given a place or a status within the community.

    And there are also many members who feel the need to want to leave the community but they can't. Their greatest fear might be the exploitation of their sins that they have shared amongst each other within the community. No one wants their dirty laundry being aired out for all the world to see especially on a tiny island like Guam where practically everyone knows everyone. There might also be the feeling of being bullied into staying within the community. Members who want to leave may feel "persecuted" by other members. They may be told that they are their only family and if they leave they have no family. They will be made to feel alone, unloved, out casted and shunned. No one wants to feel that way so they chose to stay because they don't know how to walk away.

    This has caused a great division within our church life, our family life, our social life and our professional life. We have let this situation between Catholics and neos fester so long that the tear has become a rip within our church. What would Jesus want of you? Is this how our faith is to be lived? Now ask yourselves, Catholics and neos, is this worth sacrificing your soul?

    I am a Catholic and I believe in the one Holy and Apostolic Church. I kneel before Jesus when I receive him because he is my Lord and my savior and yes, my soul is worth the sacrifice!

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  5. This is scary stuff. When people live in fear and are being bullied to remain, wow, it is a cult! Psychological manipulation in the NCW has produced these fears, dependencies and anxieties. I do think that if blackmail happens due to one's induced airing of past indiscretions the vile act renders the bully (or bullies) in violation of a sacred trust. Even if NCW practices selective confidentiality on matters shared by their adherents, any public shaming via exposure of confidential matters will make them criminally liable. Am I correct or off-base?

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  6. I hate all the psychological leveraging, but I am especially disgusted when the leveraging and intimidation is done using the Sacred Scriptures. Click here to read about how Christ's Parable of the Ten Virgins is used this way in the Shema Convivence. And click here to see even more examples.

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  7. Kenneth San AgustinMay 6, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Rudeeeey......get a Life! Coward can't even post his name. Hiding behind Anonymous the way the Archbishop hides behind Pius and Gennarinis. What a Neo Catemaniac Weakling.

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