Wednesday, May 4, 2016

MY NOTES ON THE TRAVIS INTERVIEW WITH GENNARINI

These are running notes. I'll assemble them later.

apuron wanted to start a seminary asked ncw to help
university of the pope
50 seminarians
majority for guam
no univ for formation of priests
he didn't know jesus
born again experience
save my life
impossible without the ncw
new evangelization
little by little
it doesn't change nothing
only changes relationship
the mass is according to what the church prescribes. 

LOL

I didn't understand it - catechism
these are the same stories you hear from protestants and born agains
everything is about me, my, my life, I , I I
travis is asking about ownership of assets
gennarini is going to say he doesn't own anything
wow. listen to him weave.
6 million
2 million
benefactor
theological institute is a "university"
corporation - one member - all the powers
corporation sole
IT IS NOT A CORPORATION SOLE
bullshit - board of guarantors has full veto and approval power over every decision
there it is. "we cannot ask for any money."" LOL
statute forbidden to own anything. not true.
LOL . depending on providence. oh geez. a miracle.
they were fed false information
boy are we going to have fun with this
they can see the document
yes, here is what it says:


the property is transferred, sold, and conveyed.

form of distributing eucharist approved by benedict. LOL
he just said that the mass isn't different but now says that it is different for a reason
approved by benedict - again - LOL. i have a record of gennarini personally opposing benedict
no, not anyone can come.
wow. listen to him switch to world youth day.
travis staying on juanita's questions. good travis.
LOL. he's turning benedict's january 2012 speech which was a slap down to the ncw into benedict praising the ncw. geez.
gennarini is now going to slam magister
see that
2012 - investigated and nothing happened. says who?
francis spoke "very well" of the ncw - that's all they have
WHERE IS THE BISHOP???
OOOPS. "I'd like to thank Fr. Edivaldo for MAKING this interview happen."

Whoah Giuseppe. We got you to talk....as planned. Thanks to the masturbating monkey zoologist with a collar.




19 comments:

  1. Boy oh boy! Doesn't Giuseppe know that the benefactors told Apuron that they couldn't lie? Is OJ grooming himself to become the new bishop? Are the Genarinnis willing to give up their seats as board of grantors including Pochetti and include our LOCAL priests as part of the board of grantors? If they aren't willing to do this, then something smells fishy.

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  2. Janet B - MangilaoMay 4, 2016 at 7:45 PM

    Life is indeed fun! Between my grandchildren, and my beloved Church, there is plenty to say. But the Giuseppi interview is tops!

    He says it all with the usual neo-twist: LIES!

    Good on you Tim. All will now know for certain that the house of Kiko is built on shifting sands [LIES].

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  3. You fail to believe. How can you believe in God but yet your a proud and bitter man! Evidently you have gone mad.

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    1. Mad no! Angry yes! More like righteous indignation. Righteous anger is not sinful. Even Jesus showed anger driving the moneylenders out of the temple or when the Pharisees refused to answer his questions.

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  4. If the NCW does not hold any assets, who "holds", and for whom, the results of their collections. Additionally and curiously, where might the ownership of Domus Galilaeae lie? David Taranto , Melbourne , Australia.

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    1. How n Gods green earth did those crooks manag to build on the mount of Beatitudes.nHOW???

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  5. The NCW is not allowed to own anything? It is part of their statute? So if a person signs their property over to the NCW as a donation it then becomes an asset of the archdiocese of Agana? Who owns the property?

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    1. Didn't you listen to that Gennarini interview? It's called PROVIDENCE! Shaking down donations is PROVIDENCE! Lying to parishioners, mistreating priests, asking the donor to lie, (gosh the litany goes on and on)...it's called PROVIDENCE!

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    2. Yes. And a Meeeericle!"

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    3. Big huuugge meeeeericle! HUUUUGGGGE! Ingrates.

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  6. WHAT a bunch of CROCK! I wasn't able to listen to the interview live, but I listened it to on K-57 on-line. All I can say is that for people who don't know their faith or aren't strong in their faith, Gennarini spins a tale that they shouldn't swallow. He skirts the truth in several places to make what he's saying believable. I heard a bunch of lies , half-truths, contradictions, spins, and self-adulation.... which is the norm for those in the NCW leadership. I pray EVERYDAY for this SCOURGE to be lifted from our island!

    Let's work together to let our voices be heard. Talk to people. Educate them on the dangers of this "new evangelization." Warn them about the psychological manipulation that is conducted through their catechisis. Warn them about the scrutinies and how they have to confess their sins to the people in their community. Warn them about the trash bag that is passed around. Warn them about how they receive the eucharist and how wrong that whole process is. Warn them about all the time they'll have to be away from their children. And the list goes on..... Warn them to RUN when approached by someone issuing an "invitation to joy," because in the end, it is certainly not JOY that they're fostering.

    Most of all, let's band together to show that Guam needs to be rid of this archbishop and in his place, a NON-NEO bishop be selected. Otherwise, all our parishes will be in danger of being subjected to this heresy called the Neocatechumenal Way.

    Like many of us have stated before, if you want to worship that way, GO FORM YOUR OWN CHURCH! Stop saying that you're Catholics when you don't believe or practice what is truly Catholicism.

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  7. Kenneth San AgustinMay 4, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    He spoke like the true con-artist that he is. Just his master, Kiko. They keep spitting up those same lies so much that they actually believe it. Please don't let our momentum stop. They are now getting desparate to make any attempt to keep this con going. The battle has just begun. Look out Pius, we're coming to expose you and your b.s. lies! Everyone will just start falling in this domino effect.

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  8. Joseph A. SantosMay 4, 2016 at 11:05 PM

    Tim, Travis made an astute observation though. He called the Way something similar to a protestant evangelical. Need to hear it again but that was pretty accurate. Especially the protestant part.

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    1. Yes, the protestant born again language was unmistakeable. They had a "come to Jesus" moment and got "saved." This is why Bishop Schneider - the neocat episcopal delegate for several years - called them a "Jewish Protestant heresy."

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  9. Genarinni didn't tell us a thing that we didn't already know- he just sugar-coated what his Neo members say in their testimonies. If the Way hadn't come my way, I would have been damned to hell. The Way saved me! I got a kick out of the many times he used the word "re-discovered". You mean it (faith) - which had always been there since one's baptism = and then got lost through man's frailties and transgressions, was RE-DISCOVERED by the Way! Magic! And here all the while I was thinking that it was God's Grace that brings a man back to the right path of salvation, through repentance. He did say "My grace alone is sufficient" and "Without Me, you can do nothing!". I guess God forgot about the Way! Even the traditional Protestant song proclaims "twas grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relived..." The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom; and the love of God perfects it.

    There are so many holes in what Genarinni said that for one who knows even a little bit about the Way would find his discourse utterly unbelievable - coming from the "head huncho" of the NCW in Guam. True to their modus operandi - "Deflect! Lie! Deflect!"

    Now that we see and hear for ourselves how even the highest echelon of the Way cannot offer a logical defence of their errors, but fumble through with ease, let's go "lock-stock-and-barrel" and expose them for all they're worth. It should be easy enough to compile a "syllabus of errors" and post them on the doors of the Cathedral Basilica easier than when Luther posted his 97 Thesis.

    Speaking of cathedral, it looks like they have successfully invaded the sanctity of our Mother Church. Quid nunc? (What now?) Are we going to just sit by, and watch? - jrsa (5/5/16)

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  10. Gennarini claims "the masses are not separate, anyone can come." If you want to check our a NCW service, good luck finding one. In most parishes the service is not listed in the bulletin and there is little mention of the NCW presence within the parish. Only rarely is the NCW mentioned in the parish bulletin or online events. I have to say there is a big parish in Maryland with 8 communities and only 2 Saturday evening masses. One mass is for the English speaking communities and one mass if for the Spanish speaking communities. (no mention of open to anyone except members of the communities)

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  11. Why are these so called guest speaking and trying to defend themselves in regards to what the neo's are doing...We need to hear AAA himself now, but as we all know probably won't happen..It's mind boggling how the NCW gets whatever they want here, c'mon AAA stop hiding already, has k57 or any news media every try to get an exclusive interview with our spiritual leader?

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  12. Taken from another blog -- part of a comment posted by A.Williams in 2007@JimmyAkin.com about the NCW:

    "And this is what is so strange about the group…the desire to have things their own way.
    They seem to be more interested in Church power and manipulation, than even teaching the Gospel. And this is the frightening thing. Why such a lust for authority and acceptance by Rome? Why so much rejoicing over minor indults and Vatican recognition? If they are obeying the Church at present, as the Church wishes, do they really need such approval and legal protection? Or is all of this craze about having objectively bad rituals and teachings accepted into the heart of Church liturgy and ritual? Or worse yet, they’re invented litugical symbolism accepted, in one way or another, as authoritative Church Doctrine and Teaching?
    And this is what I think everyone is afraid of!
    When we read on the internet of Kiko calling 2-300 bishops from all over the world, to a convention to learn more about ‘The Way’…When we see him send almost numberless youth of the NCW to Church functions like the World Youth Day…when we see 10,000+ NCW groups formed in Italy alone, and especially in Rome….we can smell a desire for power and political influence over the Church, cooking!
    But this is on the large scale. On the small scale we can see how the NCW can enter a parish like mine, and, sooner or later, convince the Pastor to redesign it to look like a NCW parish Church.(Square table, albo in front of the priest’s chair, NCW art, crucifixes…everything.
    Really, it’s like hijacking a parish!… It’s the same thing that the liberals do when they ‘redo’ Traditional Catholic Churches…which in some cases having fine statuary thrown in garbage bins! (I have a friend who had a number of such statuary from such a bin..two of which were over 5-6 ft. tall!)
    So this is the REAL danger of the NCW!"

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  13. After listening to Mr. & Mrs. Genarinni, I felt dissolution about our Catholic Church. He preaches or rather both of them did a testimonial regarding how their faith was not strong until they walked "the Way". He continues to say that a lot of our parishioners
    and our island people here are "lost". With a very high percentage of divorces, non practicing catholics "the Way" has given them a purpose to be closer to Jesus. DOES OUR ISLAND CATHOLICS NOT HEAR WHAT HE TRULY IS SAYING. OUR PEOPLE ARE LOST SHEEPS. They are here to lead us in "their Way." HOW SAD, WHAT HAS OUR BISHOP BEEN DOING ALL THESE YEARS TO MAKE OUR FAITH STRONGER? It took STRANGERS TO COME TO OUR ISLAND TO SHOW US THE TRUE MEANING OF OUR CATHOLIC FAITH. SAD, SAD, SAD. SO IN THE MEANTIME DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND WE WILL LOSE OUR TRADITION, IF WE FOLLOW THEM. DO PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE CAN'T ANSWER FOR THE BISHOP? I'm sure he spends lots of time with him, after all he is part of THE BOARD OF GUARANTORS, ISN'T HE CONCERN THAT THE BISHOP IS OUR SPIRITUAL LEADER WHO ISN'T LEADING US. HE MAKES A MOCKERY OF US WHEN HE SAYS, IT'S ALL LIES REGARDING GIVING PROPERTY UP. YET CLAUDIA SAYS AND SO DID HE THAT HE QUOTED something regarding giving up your worldly possession for the poor. So when they get the possession from their people, what do they do with the properties, etc.? Do they turn that money in for the poor? FORMER NCW, PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR YOUR TRUE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. DO NOT BE THREATENED BY THEM THAT SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY. GOD IS NOT CRUEL. HE WILL PROTECT YOU. SPEAK OUT, PLEASE.

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