Monday, May 2, 2016

DON'T YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM? LOL!

While over 100 people, many of whom were well into their senior years, stood outside the Cathedral for nearly 3 hours, most of the people inside the Cathedral, many of whom were nowhere close to their senior years, apparently could barely stand for a moment to accept the communion bread (since that is what Kiko believes it to be - just bread).

Reception of Holy Communion by members of the Neocatechumenal Way on Guam from Undercover Neo on Vimeo.


Okay, okay, so the NCW statute permits these people to remain in their place to receive communion, but look at the zoo it creates. What a mess. And the only reason why they are standing is because Pope Benedict demanded that they at least do that when he oversaw the revision of Kiko's statute in 2008. And of course, there is NO provision for the "communicants" to NOT consume the "bread" immediately upon reception as the rest of us are required to do. Yet that is what they do. This is the permission that Apuron says he has "somewhere."

The bottom line is that Liturgy is Theology in action.
  • If one does not believe that this is Jesus Christ made present under the appearances of bread and wine through the One Sacrifice of his Body and Blood on Calvary, then one does not need an altar, one only needs a table. And a table is what they have. 
  • If one does not believe that this is Jesus Christ, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, made present under the appearances of bread and wine through the One Sacrifice of his Body and Blood on Calvary, then one need not have care or concern for the thousands of fragments of his Body dropped to the floor and trampled upon. And care and concern they do not have. 
  • If one only believes that this is some sort of banquet and not the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, then why not just stay in your seat and let what used to be priests act as restaurant waiters. And stay in their seats is what they do (save for the 12 inches or so it takes for some to extend their legs who actually stood to receive the bread. 
So while you may be shocked at what you see here, don't you see that YOU are the problem? Not them! You see, YOU are the problem because (gasp), YOU:
  • Believe that THIS is Jesus Christ made present under the appearances of bread and wine through the One Sacrifice of his Body and Blood on Calvary.
  • Believe that THIS is Jesus Christ, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, made present under the appearances of bread and wine through the One Sacrifice of his Body and Blood on Calvary.
  • Believe that THIS is NOT just a banquet but the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and that a priest is not a restaurant waiter but one who offers sacrifice on the ALTAR of God. 
So how dare you criticize the Neos for doing it their way. Don't you know that Brother Tony says they have permission to do it this way? Don't you know that he is going to "find it?

Meanwhile, the crowd grows and grows. 

Protesters from Undercover Neo on Vimeo.

The Altar of God turned party table.


26 comments:

  1. Flowers on the altar not allowed as per the General Instructions of the Roman Missal. But then this is not the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It clearly is a Protestant themed mass taking place in OUR Agana Cathedral-Basilica. Heretics!!

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  2. We have many rallies and protests in the Philippines but never against the church or more specifically, against church leaders. I don't remember this ever happening. I was trying to reflect on why this is so. I guess it was because the church leader would have talked with the concerned and would have discussed it and would have resolved it before people get frustrated and go out into the streets. The other party will not count the people protesting and ignore them because they are just "one percent". This is the church and not just any other institution. This is the church where one leaves the 99 to look for the lost one.

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    1. Well Ebet, I know of at least the victims of sexual abuse by the clergy protesting against the Archbishop of St Paul MN, around the Cathedral in sub freezing temperatures a couple of years ago.

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    2. Exactly the case. I guess the victims protesting where not given the due respect by the Archbishop. If the Archbishop of St. Paul, MN, had nothing to hide or fear, he would have talked with those protesting. I remember during the protest at the birthday bash for our Archbishop, Fr. Jeff after parking his car, went to those protesting even just to say hello. After all those protesting are all parishioners of Guam.

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  3. Look at this article, published in 2012 on Osservatorio sul Cammino Neocatecumenale: They don't believe in Real Presence

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  4. What a disgrace done to the Catholic Church which these neos have caused. They are just leaches.

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  5. It pains me to see this practiced in our beloved Cathedral Basilica. The flower laden table, the awful tambourine music, the way they distribute the Eucharist. It's disgusting!!! But at least it was kept it within the confines of gyms and social halls. But now, to see this in our beloved church. It's disgusting. Build your own churches, get out of ours and take Jackie, the trained lawyer, putrid, the fools on the hill all your fake priests with you. Oh, and don't forget to take Tony too. I can't help but think about the bishops who are laid to rest in that Cathedral...Archbishops Flores and Baumgartner. If they could see their church now and the damage Tony has done to the Catholic faithful, they would be truly saddened.

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    1. 9:11 are you criticizing Generrinis Kiko music? As someone said on Di's blog they didn't need books. They all know the words. There are you tubes to learn the Kiko songs. It is a guy closed in his bathroom, sitting on the toilet shouting away. Check it out!

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  6. Susan T BajkusaMay 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM

    Is that a menorah I see on the table along with flowers??? Wow, a menorah in a catholic church...the Mother Church of Guam of all churches!!! Did they remember to remove Jesus from the alter before their "celebration" began???

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    1. What gets me is they don't allow flowers and candles during the Presentation at funerals but they lay out the Altar tables with their flowers and some sort of candelabria. Also they are so confuse, if they don't believe in Jesus Christ then why do they say Body of Christ when they distribute communion. There was a time I attended a funeral mass with my elderly mom and saw that she sat while receiving communion, I was so upset that corrected her by letting her know that although she suffers from arthritis she was able to make it inside and at least give Christ that respect and stand when they go to her to give her communion.

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    2. I am not walking, but from what I have read, they do believe in Jesus in much the same way as the Lutheran Church. They do deny the sacrificial character of the Mass, as well as reject transubstantiation, and follow Luther’s teaching on justification (Man is not saved by good works but god freely forgives the sins of those who believe in him.) Thus they do away with purgatory. Why they do not allow flowers and candles at funerals but do at Mass is unknown to me, although I would rather pray for the souls of the departed.

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  7. Joseph A. SantosMay 2, 2016 at 9:52 PM

    Okay Diana darling lets try this dance. If the retired cardinal does not disapprove then that means your way is approved. But if he approves your way then that means he agrees with your liturgy. So if he agrees with your liturgy doesn't that make him a Neo cardinal. If I typed too fast for your darling just read it again. Kiko authorized me to say that. Oops I was lying, but then again that's alright with your ilk, isn't it darling?

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  8. Janet B - MangilaoMay 3, 2016 at 12:52 AM

    Menorah on the altar? Extra large plywood to enlarge the fiesta table that catholics call the altar of sacrifice? Crappy kiko-artwork in the sanctuary? Presbyter Edwin "the nut job billy goat" Bushu visiting from Africa at our expense for this mass. And about 500 concelebrants all receiving as the priests.

    Yup, as Bishop Athanasius Schneider (whose feast day is today) would say, a Jewish-protestant group with a Catholic decoration, with a Jewish-protestant cardinal and archbishop. No surprises this past Saturday. Just more disgusting desecration of the true presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.

    The only thing missing were real priests. Thank you to our real priests for not condoning the kiko heresy. To those who think the priests are not doing enough, their absence spoke "screamingly Loud" to me. God bless our priests!

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    1. Father Edwin did not get funded by your expense Janet. Did you pay his ticket and call the airlines for him? Im pretty sure his community funded him

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    2. Priest get paid. Pay taxes. Not supported by his community as a rule. Is that diocesan? No. Is Billy Goat paying his taxes?? Hmmm?

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  9. Check out The Jucatan wandering around the CB with the Kiko Co. Giant sized paten . Doesn't have a clue. Telling video .

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  10. Archbishop , leave already.

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  11. Who the hell is that kid in the video who keeps talking? little boy don't know anything. And that video of that guy saying we need priest not presbyter. LOL theyre the same thing. read a little bit into church history

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    1. Sounds like "that kid" frightens you. He should. He knows more than you obviously do since you get your church history from Kiko. Priest and Presbyter are not the same thing, which is why the Vatican would NOT permit the use of the word "presbyter" in the 1997 revised ordination rite for priests. LOL. Read a little bit.

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    2. No better demonstration of the "do as I say, but not as I do", from another courageous Neo goon.

      On one side they make fun of our elderly for protesting, while at the same time criticizing a "kid" who has more maturity, more integrity, more knowledge about his religion, that these morons will ever have in a lifetime of following this judeo-protestant sect of evil doers.

      Why so much hate dear anon?

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    3. Anonymous @ 2:04 PM: Truth hurts, doesn't it. Stop the hate and participate while your leaders are out hiding from our elderly and young. Angry mob...yeah right!

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  12. I wonder what they say when they are offering the bread to their sect? "Malagu Pan"? (Want some bread?)

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    1. Wonder bread piled high to fall on the floor.

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  13. LOL. 2:57. "Pretty sure." You don't even know. One thing we do know that is that canonically this archdiocese is on the hook for Bushu and all the other brats until the day they die as long as they are incardinated here. This is the great crime Brother Tony has perpetrated on this diocese. He has made all of us financially liable for life to a bunch of misfits nobody else would take.

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    1. Yah, Archie laughing in public the Billy Goat is older than he is and will retire before him. Don't laugh! Cuz it's not funny. Let's see who 'retires' first. I heard that. Don't laugh.

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  14. "Malagu Pan?"...lol! I'm sure that's what they're saying as they dole out the 'bread'. I mean, what else COULD THOSE FAKE PRIESTS say since they don't believe in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Such a farce! Tony, this is your legacy. Reviled by many and leaving a trail of destruction in your 30 year long path through the Catholic history on Guam. And you still continue to wreak havoc. Please...for us mere 1% of Guam's Catholics that oppose you (in The World According To OJ the Monkey) leave already. Pot Fabot!

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