Saturday, January 21, 2017

FROM LFM

Subject: PICKET

Hafa Adai to all of you,

Picket as usual Sunday, January  22, 2017 at 9:00 AM in front of Cathedral Basilica. Our demand to remove and defrock Apuron continues. See you all Sunday.

Si Yu'us Ma'ase,

Lou Klitzkie, LFM

46 comments:

  1. Sunday-January 15, 2017 was the 3rd week of the year, and our parish collection is still around 2,300-3,000 dollars a week, at this rate my parish alone will clear $125.000 for the year. STOP THE MONEY...

    the seminary functions by "Divine Providence" the parishes should as well.

    apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT...

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    1. Haven't you thought that "Divine Providence" can be shown thru others (God providing thru others)? Or, do you expect money to fall from the trees? The very people who are protesting, wanting to help the church in some way, are chanting "No Money" to be given to the parishes. Strange. It seems that the JW focuses sooo much on money and creates a "thrilling and riveting" narrative about an Archbishop involved in an approved movement in the Church, and the link between them is money, corruption, and covering up of abuse. Furthermore, the very same protesters are not happy with some decisions of AB Byrnes, so the narrative continues: continue protesting and complain about Byrnes' decisions if his choices don't match their demands. Then, there's the onslaught of lawsuits. What's the next part of this narrative, JW???

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    2. LOL. Well it keeps you interested, doesn't it?

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    3. Yes, Tim, it keeps me interested. I think I know how you and others want this narrative to end and it can be found on this blog and on the signs of the protesters. And I suppose you and others will do anything to see that the narrative of this fiasco will end in the way you wanted and planned. If AB Apuron returns, deemed innocent, what happens then? A sequel? Do share the plot, Tim. Tell the world, Tim, is the narrative coming to its end as planned from the beginning? Is there an alternate ending? As one who lived in Guam and knew of the problems within the Church, you can't blame me for being interested in both your blog and the Diana's blog. All I have to say is that someone is lying.

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    4. apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT...

      a Byrnes quote,
      His advice for parishioners is to keep their focus on Jesus.

      In the previous catechesis we dealt with the question posed by people in every age concerning divine Providence, in the face of evil and suffering. God's word luminously and conclusively states: "against the wisdom (of God), evil does not prevail" (Wis 7:30).

      It indicates that God permits evil in the world for higher ends, but does not will it. Today we desire to listen to Jesus Christ who offers the full and complete answer to this tormenting question, in the context of the paschal mystery.

      I can tell you this I know the ncw is at the service of the bishop

      apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT... NO MONEY... apuron OUT...

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    5. JW philosophy are diabolical and purely demonic. I pray all of you be excommunicated.

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    6. the Vatican has already determined that. That's why Apuron's belongings have been completely removed from the Archbishop's residence. they are only now looking for a way to quietly place him elsewhere under the guise of age or health. But he still has to face Guam's court system. So stay tuned.

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    7. It seems that what with all the political manueverings of the Neos in the Vatican that the only way to find out the truth and find justice is through the civil courts. That's why I would like to suggest that we add another sign for our protest rallies: SUE the guilty bastards! (in addition to DEFROCK APURON! and STOP THE MONEY! of course.)

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    8. Anon @ January 22, 9:09AM said: "All I have to say is that someone is lying."

      You seem to be an articulate person and good with forming and using your words. This display of intelligence should be enforced with a bit of simple research. It has been well documented that there has been untruths and lies propagated - mostly in order to silence this blog and other voices who had revealed and exposed abuses and malpractice.

      You stated that someone is lying yet you leave the question open ended. Either you are obtuse (which I doubt) to the situation, or you are in denial of the situation due to prejudice.

      There is not enough space in these comment boxes to display the evidence at hand. Tim has provided many links to documents, advisios, statements and reports (not of his creation) that not only revealed who these liars are and the adverse actions they attempted based on their untruths, this blog has documented rebutting actions citing official announcements being rescinded; false statements being retracted; clergy reinstated and absolved of fabrications levied against them; and new appointments to key positions reclaiming order in the Archdiocese.

      (What has never happened are any adverse actions against this blog, CCOG or the LFM by the Archdiocese or the Vatican. There were a few feeble attempts, but even those were all rescinded!)

      So, don't just remain eloquent in your commenting, break a sweat in obtaining the facts to what have been truths and what have been manipulations. Otherwise, you are just another anonymous blowhard exhibiting intellectual dishonesty through verbosity.

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    9. @9:09 AM, You live in Guam and know the problems that we are experiencing in the church, you mention that you are also a reader of both JW and Diana's blogs, despite all the concrete evidence presented in the JW blog, and basically unsubstantial trash from Diana's blog, you still do not know who is telling the truth. I can only surmise that you are a NEO who trolls the JW, spewing hate and discontent in your desperate attempt to justify the existence of your cult. The truth is out, the NCW is a heretical, evil sect, and you are caught deep in its clutches. But there is still hope for you, renounce this evil and come back to the truth that exist in Christ's Church, where he is the head, and not some Johnny come lately profit from money, St. Kiko.

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    10. STOP THE LIES TIM R O H R !!!

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    11. Anon Jan 22 @9:45 AM, oooooh! I scared. So you are going to excommunicated JW for telling the truth and exposing the evil, heretical NCW? You been threatening us for three years already. Do you really have the power to do so? And who is going to report us? Just another empty promise from a lying desperate, lost, brainwashed Kiko.

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  2. To Anon at 9:09AM, I don't think any of the victims planned for the assaults on them while they were minors and vulnerable. The narrative about their experiences doesn't actually end, but we hope, with the support of those on JW, will result in some healing. The only plot that seems to be playing out here is the constantly shifting one from those who still believe the violence against children at the hands of ordained priests didn't happen.

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    1. Anon 9;09AM people of your kind are the reason why other Victims are still afraid to come forward..Thank Goodness They know they have JW and other supporters who believe in them...As Champ quoted in his Brother 'Sonny's Honor/ Defense,'HEALING CANNOT BEGIN WITHOUT JUSTICE...Rest assure, WE will Get Justice for Sonny and ALL the other Victims !!!

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    2. " ... the constantly shifting one from those WHO STILL BELIEVE the violence against children at the hands of ordained priests ... " SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED!

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  3. Jackie now president of Guam BAR. Lol.

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    1. WTF is going on in this Island. An attorney that used her office to callude with the former NEO Cult Presbyter General David the sickly not twice but three times on the certificate of title of the Yona Ptoperty on a public forum is now the president of the Guam bar. This further validates the saying "fu#%up, move up. Wow

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    2. Yeah, the President of the Bar with Kiko Virgin Painting in her office. So cool. Criminal. Or dumb.

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  4. Yea. That's why Guam is experiencing hell with these neo demons at the steering wheel!

    May God help us!

    Apuron out! Neo out!

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  5. I am ANON 9:09 AM: It seems that I'm being accused of being in denial, prejudice, brain-washed, and hateful. 1. I never said that the victims have created what I call a narrative. 2. I'm not against victims who are seeking closure. 3. Sexual abuse did occur, but accusations against AB Apuron, I'm skeptical. 4. I don't spew hate. 5. I've found more hate speech on JW and close to nil on Diana's.

    The goal of this blog, and those associated to it in some way, is clear: Apuron OUT! Neo OUT! Supporters of either, Shut Up or Get Out! Therefore, ANYTHING will be planned to carry out this goal. Behind this goal is both the media and some in government.

    I'd like to end with a message similar to the message of President Donald John Trump: This carnage needs to stop.

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    1. Well then tell Tony to come out of hiding and telli those victims to their faces that he did not do what they are accusing him of. Nothing is stopping him from doing so. And while you're at it, come out of hiding yourself.

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    2. Stupid Ass, who the hell do you think committed the sex abuse? Apuron is one of the clergy being accused by four altar servers, and I would take the testimony of those four over yours, anyday. You have the mindset like that of Tenorio, that Apuron is not capable of such actions, but realize that Apuron is far from being a holy man, and has proven by his actions that he will sell you alive so that he can save his ass. The sad reality is your head is stuck so far up his ass, that you are willing to close your eyes to all the despicable acts he has perpetuated all these years. But where is your beloved Tony? He is in hiding, exactly what sin does to a person, in his fear he is no where to be found. He has been found naked..

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    3. Anon 4;32 PM..Where is Tony Boy??.why hasn't he returned to Guam to prove his innocence?? WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR YOU TONY BOY.. ..When you really think about it, ApuRun Left Guam and did his disappearing act soon after he heard / found out Doris Concepcion was coming home with Sonny's Ashes...Like a coward he is, ApuRun left a few days before her arrival...One can only wonder if Tony Boy is afraid of being confronted by Doris Concepcion.. after years of Silence and finally coming forward with the truth, I guess Tony Boy realized that she is coming to Guam with A 'I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO YOU ARE ATTITUDE..YOU HURT MY CHILD AND YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR WHAT DID TO HIM..People are going to hear / know the truth about you...Tony Boy must have realized HE is NO match for this Mother so he put on his running shoes and is now a fugitive..think about it??

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    4. Anon 4'32 Pm.so which accusation against ApRun are you skeptical about if you are Not against the victims and what accrued. Can you be more specific with what you mean and whatever doubts you have..

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    5. I think you hit the nail on the head. Tony didn't run after Roy came forward. In fact he challenged him. However he split immediately after Doris' story hit the news. He knew Doris and Doris knew him. Doris used to cook for Tony. And according to Doris, they had several meetings over Sonny's behavior. It's Doris that Tony doesn't want to face.

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    6. Aaaw Tony Boy,I guess you're NOT singing or humming to the tunes of ''I GOT THE WHOLE WORLD IN MY HANDS / YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS or I HAVE THE POWER uh Tony Boy..LOL..who's got the power now Tony Boy??..PUTI MA BOLA BOLA HA TON..

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    7. Tony Boy ,Come out,come out, You can run but cannot hide forever..Have NO fear Doris Concepcion is NOT here.. But that doesn't mean she won't be returning either..

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    8. Anon 9:09 -

      I'll bite . . . what is the basis or foundation for the skepticism? Is it based on a hunch? Facts? First hand knowledge?

      At this point, we are way beyond healthy skepticism. At this point, like I submitted earlier above, it's pretty much prejudicial on your part . . . but with this most recent reply of yours (4:32 PM), I am beginning to observe you are resolved to remain obstinate.

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    9. This "skepticism" that anon 9:09 mentions is shared by the Neo communities and other Apuron supporters. This a classic illustration of distorting reality to support a group's position or belief.

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    10. 9.09 AM, which side of your divide, the nil side or the non-nil side, was it when Diana says she is in favour of the priest raping the 10 year old because the 10 year old consentingly initiated it?

      Her verbosity is sometimes almost as good as yours, but that doesn't mean you are very sharp to "find" or "not find" hate on it.

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  6. ANON at 4:32 PM, You are correct that "the goal of this blog, and those associated to it in some way, is clear: Neo OUT".

    That is what we are called to do.

    The NCW is a Protestant/Judeo heresy that has entered our church, we want this cancer out, not only in Guam but worldwide.

    This is the just the start. Catholics around the world have been silent but now we are aware of this cult and we will continue to tell everyone about this Protestant/Judeo heresy that has been allowed to infect our Church unchecked.

    The real fruits of the NCW have been exposed clearly for all to see.

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    1. Hafa Ton. Sagi jan.Puti ma Bola bola jan Madagun tati hao no....BENECHU .You can run but you Cannot hide..

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  7. ANON 9:09 AM here again. Thanks for including me in the "narrative". What my name is doesn't matter. Call me ANON 101 or whatever name you like. Anyway, finish the narrative first, then the "alternative facts" (term used by Trump's adviser) can be published.

    Let me repeat: someone is lying. Lying to hide or lying to gain or both. Rome and CoAB Byrne's will come to know the truth soon. 😉

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    1. You already know the answer.

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    2. yes he does doesn't he Tim. he's very close is why.

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    3. You said "someone is lying. Lying to hide or lying to gain or both"

      The modus operandi of the NCW is to lie, cheat and deceive to promote the "way"

      Lie, cheat and deceive = NCW

      Yes, someone or rather some cult is lying......

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    4. ANON 9:09 AM here again. Thanks for including me in the "narrative"

      LOL! . . .
      Now that I have wiped these tears of laughter from my eyes. . .

      No. You most definitely are not a part of the narrative. At most, a useful idiot. If you left the conversation, Apuron still remains accused and in hiding, the NCW is still a manipulating cult and you remain inconsequential.

      Of course this goes without saying, you have been helpful in increasing the site visits and contributing to the comment count.

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  8. They know the truth,We know the truth and the whole world knows the truth but they are still trying to CONVINCE themselves it's NOT the truth..MAYBE BY READING ALL THESE TRUTH THEY WILL FINALLY ACCEPT THE TRUTH..i HOPE i AM not CONFUSING YOU Anon 11;21 AM WITH THE TRUTH..LAMO..DUH !!

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  9. Brace yourselves if and when it does make it's way in to Guam. May God bless Cardinal Burke!

    The ALPHA Program

    Here are some useful links to evaluations:

    "Mic'd Up—What is ALPHA?"

    "ALPHA and the New Evangelization," Paul Likoudis

    "The ALPHA Course: An Evaluation," William J. Cork

    "The Dangers of the ALPHA Course"

    "Bad Teaching"

    "ALPHA is Not Catholic"

    The "ALPHA for Catholics" website is where you can find the names of all their supporters. In general, it seems to be a very Protestant approach to Christianity with a little Catholicism tacked on at the end.

    The aim of the ALPHA course seems to be to a "lowest common denominator" version of Christianity, with everyone affirming the absolute basics but leaving out issues like authority, the nature of justification, grace, the sacraments, the Eucharist, priesthood and so on.

    We do not recommend the ALPHA program for use in Catholic settings.



    Addendum:

    TO: All Members of the Marian Catechist Apostolate

    FROM: Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke

    International Director of the Marian Catechist Apostolate

    SUBJECT: Directive to Marian Catechists regarding the program "ALPHA in a Catholic Context"

    DATE: December 3, 2015

    It has come to my attention that a program called "ALPHA in a Catholic Context" has been recommended to some Marian Catechists.

    Having studied the program, both from the perspective of doctrine and methodology, I must make it clear that the program may not be used, in any form, in the Marian Catechist Apostolate and that Marian Catechists are not to become involved with it.

    While, like so many similar programs, ALPHA may seem to offer a more attractive and effective form of evangelization and catechesis, it does not have the doctrinal and methodological foundations required for the teaching of the Catholic Faith. Marian Catechists should continue to use the Catechism of the Catholic Church, together with the courses of the Servant of God Father John A. Hardon, S.J., and my "Commentary on the General Directory for Catechesis."

    I recall to all Marian Catechists the words of Pope Saint John Paul II in his Apostolic Letter "Novo Millennio Ineunte," regarding those who think that, before the challenge of a new evangelization, the Church needs to discover "some magic formula" or invent a "new program": "No, we shall not be saved by a formula but by a Person, and the assurance which he gives us: I am with you."

    The saintly Pontiff reminded us that the program by which we are to address effectively the great spiritual challenges of our time is, in the end, Jesus Christ alive for us in the Church. He explained:

    The program already exists: It is the plan found in the Gospel and in the living Tradition, it is the same as ever. Ultimately, it has its center in Christ Himself, Who is to be known, loved and imitated, so that in Him we may live the life of the Trinity, and with Him transform history until its fulfillment in the heavenly Jerusalem. This is a program which does not change with shifts of times and cultures, even though it takes account of time and culture for the sake of true dialogue and effective communication. (No. 29)
    The Servant of God Father John A. Hardon, S.J., understood profoundly the truth of Pope John Paul II's words and, through the spiritual and doctrinal formation of the Marian Catechist Apostolate, as he so faithfully and wisely developed it, Marian Catechists understand the same truth and are not allured or deceived by stories of a "magic formula" or a "new program." In short, Marian Catechists understand that our program is holiness of life which flows from a profound knowledge and ardent love of Christ Who is alive for us in the Church.

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    1. So, now we must be on guard not only against the NeoCats but against the "ALPHAs" which we know Byrnes supports.

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    2. Oh NO? In deed Arch. Byrnes said he's one of us now. He won't allow this "ALPHA" practices (whatever it is) to be applied on Guam confusing the laity much more and gain further division, hatred amongst our Chamorro people. Guam has One Church not Churches, respect that! What works for him not necessarily works for other's. Back then we weren't with Jesus to make changes in the Church. May Attorney David Lujan's words don't come back to hunt us "What about our Local Priest as our Bishop".

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    3. While I sympathize and do believe there may be a local priest who could fill the role, let us not forget that it was local priests who sold our diocese into slavery.

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    4. There have been several posts and comments about ALPHA, but I didn't publish them. I wanted to give Byrnes a chance. However with his comments published in the Guamanian Magazine, he's used it.

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    5. Wasted time on this comment. Tho, just clearing the air.
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      Found this comment on Diana's blog. Here we go again? Confusion of he said / she said? Don't think by posting Cardinal Burke's letter dated 2015 make anybody want him to do anything. "Debunk" you say Anonymous 8:27AM is your words. "Wretched people" you also said? What thoughts you feed your mind.

      AnonymousJanuary 25,2017 at 8:27AM
      JW is after Byrnes because of the Alpha charism. They want cardinal Burke to debunk Alpha so they can also debunk Byrnes for promoting Alpha. Wretched people.

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  10. The assault against the truth and Christ' Church has been taking place since Christ founded it. Many times from the most unexpected place, within the church itself. That is why it is ever so important to know our faith given to us from Christ through his Church, anything else is from the enemy.

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