Thursday, November 6, 2014

GOOD NEWS!

New norms encourage bishops in difficult situations to resign

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/new-norms-encourage-bishops-in-difficult-situations-to-resign-51017/

Holy See changes laws governing episcopal resignations

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/11/05/holy_see_changes_laws_governing_episcopal_resignations/1110206

Article 5 specifies that, in some circumstances, competent authority may ask a bishop to offer his resignation from pastoral office.


34 comments:

  1. It has been done in the past. Right after we were liberated from the Japanese in WWII, the Bishop from Spain (I believe) returned, but the American leaders on Guam didn't like him and used his connections through a bishop in the US to get the Pope to remove him as a Bishop thus ending the Spanish mission on Guam.

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  2. If Apuron is removed or decides to resign, who do you think will be the interim administrator? Fr. Adrian - the Chancellor. Do we really want that? Worse things come to mind with him at the helm.

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    1. Fr. Adrian's errors are just as documented as AAA's. So we'll probably get an outside administrator. I think Rome is waiting until Apuron is gone in order to clean up the whole mess in this region which is why they haven't assigned a bishop to Saipan after 4 years...and also why they immediately accepted Camacho's resignation (though they'll say it was illness related.) But even if we get Adrian, we have a back up plan. His name is John Toves.

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    2. You'll be gone by then Tim.

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    3. There's Adrian again playing in the jungle that he tells everyone else to stay away from. What's the matter? The name John Toves scare you? It should. I wouldn't let him post the pictures. I still have integrity even if you don't.

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    4. Well, I can well imagine what the pictures will be like. I sure hope before Bishop Adrian Cristobal is announced in Rome that John Toves will send the pics to the Congregation for Bishops. The pictures may help the Congregation to decide that Cristobal may not be a suitable episcopal candidate.

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    5. Well, doubt cristobal will be appearing with Diana Vreeland in these pictures. But who know anything is possible.

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    6. I was willing to dismiss Adrian's behavior as demonstrated in the pics as "youthful indiscretions", but if he's going to show up here and threaten me as he did above, them I'll need to reconsider.

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    7. Yes, John Toves may well be reading tonight. John may be right time to send the pictures to the congregation for bishops.

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    8. Didn't Adran do a homily on the Dishonet Steward?

      NOW would be a good time to try and bow out gracefully. I doubt it will happen because Adrian forgot the meaning of receiving and sharing Grace. Good luck with that Adrian. Sorry Tim, "youthful discretion's" should not exclude any type of evidence to be taken into consideration for any higher order consideration from Priest to Bishop. Maybe baby steps first Adrian, like being a Monsignor or something...Whatever the NEONUTS tell you to do, I guess, right?

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    9. Cristobal will never be accepted as archbishop of Guam. Should it ever happen there would be street protests against him.

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  3. Does the papal nuncio Archbishop Krebs have the authority to now ask AAA to resign?

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    1. No. Only the pope...which is why AAA is rushing to make friends with him...and everyone else.

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    2. KMart Guam macadamia chocolates...the bribe. Forget it, Archie.

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    3. 1.01pm not heard this story about Kmart. what did he do make a private deal with Kmart for personal gain. Would not surprise me. May be he gets free food from Kmart for life who knows? What we do know is anyway, anyhow, Apuron can make money for his lavish life stle and his cult, he will.

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  4. Fr. Cristobal formed a part of the short list of possible candidates for episcopal ordination. In fact he released the names of the short list to show friends his intended appointment.

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    1. If I was Apuron or Cristobal I would be begging the Lord not be appointed to the next level of clerical hierarchy. Judgement Day which will be much more severe. "To whom much is given much is expected." And we have already seen what they have done with what they were given.

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    2. Did he really? Well, how would he like it IF those of us who did those assessments followed his lead and let them know what they replied???? Confidentiality, Cristobal, you horse's ars.

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    3. Cristobal fails to see the meaning of a pontifical secret. Yes, I did contact Arcbishop Balvo at the time to inform him. Archbishop Balvo informed me direct that the selection of a bishop is under the pontifical secret. it is considered a grave offence for any baptized catholic to violate in any shape or form the pontifical secret regarding the selection of a bishop. All necessary details concerning cristobal in this archdiocese were forwarded to Archbishop Balvo. Contents of those letters remain the pontifical seal.

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    4. Cristobal is a hopeless case, always was, always will be. He entered the church for power and position, when he got the power position, he failed to use correctly. To ordain him a bishop will be a disaster for the community. Can you imagine how he would further abuse the position.

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    5. Even several years ago Apuron rejected Cristobal as a Monsignor for the archdiocese. At that time Apuron described cristobal as " a man with limited capabilities" Not sure exactly what the term means. But if Apuron was applying for monsignors today for Guam clergy then I'm sure cristobal would head the list.

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  5. If I was Apuron I would be like the former pope. I would retire and live a semi monastic life in prayer.

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  6. Now I am REALLY stumped and mummified!

    Okay, with this known revelation, this would be a great stress relief of duty and obligation for all the 3 billy goats on the hill to tender their resignation, wouldn't it? If they had an opportunity to escape the wrath of God now, why not take it NOW!

    Hmmm...Today's Gospel (Scripture: Luke 16:1-8) about the Steward who was let go showed a lot of forward thinking in how he made atonement prior to exiting his position. The Steward wanted to ensure he still had a way to get to eternal salvation and outwitted his then Master.

    What a time to reflect on this Gospel for the 3 billy goats and to maybe follow the example of the mischievous Steward. Oh sorry, they are all in preparation mode for the ordination of 3 more ESL deacons that will be a priest in their eyes. Tomorrow is it? Oh 10:00 AM?...Tried to squeeze it into my Saturday morning break but just can't see myself sitting there listening to the NEO singing and clapping. Count me in as a NS (NS=No Show).

    Besides, I don't have any more $5.00 donations. And if I did, I would think they would only laugh at it anyways so I can keep my money and share it with someone who really needs it, say, like the poor, the hungry, and those children who are actually starving because their NEO parents are giving all they have to the NEONUTS!...Yes, I will save my $5.00 x 3 = $15.00. Did the calculations so it will not strain the brain of the NEONUTS (I don't want to be that insulting, would I?)...

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  7. "Pope criticizes strutting ‘peacock’ bishops for their vanity"

    The Pope added: “It is sad when we see a man who seeks this office and does all he can to get it and when he gets it does not serve, instead goes around like a peacock and lives only for his vanity.”

    http://cathnews.co.nz/2014/11/07/pope-criticises-strutting-peacock-bishops-vanity/

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  8. Janet B - MangilaoNovember 7, 2014 at 2:05 PM

    If you go to the following web site

    http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bvacant.html

    you will see all the diocese without a bishop. What is surprising is how many of the bishops have resigned. It is not the majority, but more than I expected when I first looked at it. Some have died, some have retired, and some have been assigned to new diocese. But the number removed/resigned is 16% of those listed, which is a surprise. It also gives us room for hope.

    Maybe our dear Tony will finally gather the courage to do the right thing and step down. Resigned is still better than removed.

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  9. Peacock is Anthony Apuron . Prime example of one man who abused his episcopal position to gain vast personal wealth, travel, social gains in this community. Can anyone identify just one project of anything he has accomplished for this archdiocese in 30 years. He has done nothing but take money from the community for himself. In the past 15 years he has used our money to support this evil cult. After 30 years he accomplished nothing for the people priests of Guam. Yes he is a peacock but a peacock is a beautiful creation. Apuron is a vile man.

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  10. According to Anon 11/7, 7:04 am, an American Bishop was able to intercede in the removal of the Spanish Bishop reassigned to Guam after WWII. I wonder who would be the likely credible authority who would be willing to intercede for us. The Nuncio?

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  11. Anybody saw the feed from Dar el Salam, checking Msgr Benevante removal?
    Looks like Archbishop Balvo is staying in touch.

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  12. John C. "Typhoon Toves"November 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Saturday, November 8, 2014
    To John C. "Typhoon" Toves
    Here is my side of the story and the REAL reason I did not publish your comment on my blog.

    First of all, if you REALLY are sincere in offering your congratulations to those deacons who are now ordained priests, you would take the time to READ their names, which is in the post. One would not start out their "so-called" congratulations by saying " To, Harold, Howard, Hoover, or whatever......" So, Johnny, Joey, Jerry, or WHATEVER Toves, that is one reason why I did not publish your comment.

    And finally, if you REALLY are offering your congratulations as you claimed, it is unnecessary to mention anything about recording homilies or stuttering. A person who is sincere in offering their congratulations would not act like a hypocrite.

    Your comment was no different than Isaias who congratulated the RMS deacons and then offered his condolences to the Catholics of Guam. So, now you can go back to the jungle and tell how you attempted to congratulate the new priests, and how I did not publish your comment because I was fearful. The truth is..... I did not publish your comment because it was degrading, insincere, and hypocritical.
    Posted by Diana at 1:03 PM No comments:

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    1. Diana, saw her at the Ordination. As usual, wasn't even singing how good it is to be with the brothers! Edivaldo, were you hot?

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    2. I'm sure air con was on full blast .

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  13. John C. "Typhoon Toves"November 8, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    She/He is not very bright. Told her to hire help with the comments and thanked her for doing what was expected. Will try her again with another tool!

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  14. Pope Francis has said that you cannot be in a position of power and destroy the life of others.

    This is exactly what Apuron has done. He has spent his episcal ministry gaining personal wealth for himself and destroying the priests and people of the archdiocese. when will it stop archbishop? Do we have to spend six more years watching your evil administration causing disunity to our island church? I pray you leave and allow healing to begin.

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  15. Just finished reading and old latin book, and it put me in a positive mood.
    So I think I will contribute at least one latin "adage" per subject, to give people the perspective that our problems are unique to us, but they also have existed before.
    "Contritium praecedit superba"
    Very appropriate for Tony, but also food for thought for the new "presbyters"

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