Friday, March 7, 2014

TO THE RELIGIOUS SISTERS OF GUAM


Just an FYI. Here is why the Neos are not encouraging vocations to your orders, at least not here in Guam. Apparently you are all too old and sick, and training aspiring nuns would give you too much "stress" and will kill you. NOT MAKING IT UP:

Anonymous March 6, 2014 at 7:05 PM 
If the sisters were ever asked, they are only going to say yes because they're obedient. You're the one who is going to end up killing them early by giving them stress. The elderly and sick is supposed to be cared for, not be driven with hard work that may cause them stress.

45 comments:

  1. Well it is true. Isn't this why Pope Benidict resigned? Just curious.

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    1. No. It's not true. What IS true is the neocatechumenal way exists apart from the main body of the Catholic Church and considers all who are not in the neo to be of immature faith, including priests and religious. We are beneath you.

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    2. You didn't answer his question. It is true that Pope Benedict resign for health reasons.

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    3. That is an assumption from what YOU want to believe. The translations you do of kikos documents is from your perspective. But why are all you translations so negative?

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    4. Pope Francis is old and only has one lung so he must fall under this category! He took on the task no matter what his age is or health issues are. Like I stated, you are all full of excuses. Heil Hitler!

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    5. I did. I said "No. It's not true." Try reading. But that has nothing to do with the whether our local nuns are willing to accept postulants or not, does it?

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    6. By the way. Try some self-respect and put your name to your comments if you're going to challenge me.

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    7. So what is the reason behind the Pope resigning? Curious again.

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    8. Ummm, idiot at 11:29, this is not a "translation from kiko's documents". This is a repost from one your neo-conned brothers. Click the link.

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    9. Umm idiot I'm speaking of your blog in general.

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    10. So what is the reason you're asking? Curious again.

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    11. Ummm idiot. Why are you here? Coward.

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    12. 11:42 am, Pope Francis is the one with one lung. It's a simple fact that can be easily researched.
      I'll make it even easier: http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/13/17300190-popes-partial-lung-doesnt-slow-him-down-vatican-says?lite

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  2. Pope Benedict resigned because of the limits of his human nature/condition. Does this mean that because of his resignation, he will not promote vocations? Because of his resignation, does it mean he's going to stop sharing his wisdom? Of course not. Tim is right. The neos mistakenly believe everyone not in the Way is not worthy. How shameful! Our dear Sisters have years of experience and priceless wisdom. God bless our Sisters of Mercy, the Carmelites, the Sisters of Notre Dame and the Dominican Sisters who continue to give generously to the people of Guam. Shame on the Neos for thinking otherwise!

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  3. Pope Benedict was clear. He was not sick. He resigned because he believed it to be God's will that he do so. Many of the religious sisters on Guam are alive and well and active. Damn you people are grasping.

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    1. Tim this is entertainment. Until something concrete is done to the NCW, this and your assumptions will JUST BE a blog. I come play in the jungle for fun. ;) I mean were all cowards, you know. Majority of your comments are from anon, neo or not.

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    2. Glad you're having fun playing with yourself in the jungle. But you're wrong. I am not a coward. I have the strength of my convictions. You don't. If you're going to attack me then use your name. Once again, thank you for demonstrating to the rest of us the true fruit of the Neocatechumenal Way.

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    3. I'm human, what do you expect? Tell that to everyone who follows, not just the ones who disagree with you. ;)

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    4. According to Pope Benedict, he resigned due to his old age and health.

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/11/pope-benedict-xvi-resigns-age

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    5. If you want to challenge another anonymous and stay anonymous, go ahead. But if you're going to challenge me by name then come out from behind your bush and stand like a man. I only let your comments through to show the world what cowards you neos are. Big man behind your bush.

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    6. Look at the original comment. Your neo-conned brother/sister refers to the nuns as "sick". Benedict DID NOT RETIRE BECAUSE HE WAS SICK. Old age and declining health go together. But, you still haven't told us what that has to do with your funneling vocations away from local orders, have you? Well we know the answer, don't we? We all know the answer. Once again, folks, neo-intellect on display.

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    7. From a super catholic like you Yourself, you sure don't love your enemies ;)

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    8. Are you saying that Pope Benedict was wrong when he said that he's stepping down because of his age and health?

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    9. Maybe the girls don't want to go too local orders.

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    10. Correct. But I have an excuse. I am the "unsalted" one, the Judas, one of those in Kiko's third circle. Kiko says I am necessary. But you have no excuse. You are one of the elect. Thanks for showing us what the neo does for people.

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    11. At 12:20pm. Again, I am letting your comment through so as to further display the neo-intellect.

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    12. Is that how you take it? I'm unsalted as well. Tim, if you actually think somebody can actually return to God with his whole heart over night, you are wrong. Why do you think were suppose to act holy?

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    13. At the other 12:20. It's actually "to" not "too". Refer to original comment. It had nothing to do with what the girls want. It was condemnation of all the nuns on this island as too old and sick to accept new postulants.

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    14. I beg to differ with 12:20. Father Pius is the itinerant Catechist here and also in NJ. I must follow the advice of my catechists, RIGHT? WRONG my friend!

      It's like telling us that because the local religious do not follow the WAY, it is against the NEO religion and belief to even step foot into their convent to try it out!

      These religious order were not even given a chance to have the girls experience their religious way of life. What a shame!

      I hope that while of his trip again the Archnishop would do some reflections. Yes, he is gone again.

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    15. Maybe the "girls" don't have a choice. No freedom in any area of your life. Remember that. Catechisis determine your call.

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  4. Satan uses deceptive reasoning, distracting rhetoric and inflammatory suggestions; all tactics mirrored by the neo defenders commenting here. Scary.

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  5. At 12:25. Then start acting like it and stop judging me. That would be a first step, wouldn't it. Oh, and about that document. Anyway, it's been nice. But I have a real life. Bye.

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  6. I am walking the way with Jesus. But I do believe the neo are wrong in encouraging insults to our local religious women who I love and respect. I pray for young vocations to join them so I have to support Tim's views. I find him to be very balanced and a supporter of our life and culture on Guam. If I can find a religious group on Guam to help me, I would not join neo. Infact my friend walked away when they asked him to sign over their condo in Manila to them. My friend walked out the meeting.

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  7. Here is a thorough report in religious life in US . Stats are rather dismal. This is the reality. The problem in Guam is the fault also of Pius and the NCW. Indeed they are a parallel church .

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  8. Brothers we should respect mr Rohr because he is honest in what he says. Many joined neo because it was something new to do. We did not know they were after our land, our property, and our money. We all need to stop and re evaluate what the community is doing here. Was it correct that one one man fr.pius, blew into Guam like a typhoon, took over the archbishops mind, then priests and people, divided our families and community. Can this possibly be for the good of the community. Beginning to think not. If their is no peace, the lord is not present. May be we need to stop as a catholic people, and ask ourselves seriously. Is this the way we want our church on Guam to go. To me it cannot be the work of the Lord.

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  9. How did the discussion become about Pope Benedict? His life of prayer now may be more valuable than all of his monumental accomplishments. Why are the " girls" so afraid to be caretakers. Any family has loved ones to care for. In New Jersey are sisters in wheelchairs more than ninety. Who takes care?

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  10. At lunch yesterday the wife of a former neo told me he left his neo community because they kept asking him for his land on Guam. The wife then informed me she was upset with a certain Prost who kept telling her sons they have a nice butt. I nearly choked on my lunch with shock. So I do listen to mr Rohr because I believe he has truth for our community.

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  11. We do plan to inform the archbishop in writing that he ordained a priest who congratulates young men on their butts. To us it's shocking what the archbishop has allowed to evolve on Guam. No standards anymore, no values, no character. Upsets us.

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    1. Do not wait for the Archbishop. Inform the Archbishop in writing og the report . Any priest, coach, teacher would be removed IMMEDIATELY. This forum is not the place ....REPORT, PLEASE. This will bring more to light, for sure. SCREENING OF THE SEMINARIANS, FOR GOD SAKES.

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  12. Thank you anon 208pm. Beginning to suspect that the seminarians may not only lack academic formation but also human spiritual formation.

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  13. We did evaluate and determine that the Priest did nothing. He just congratulated them on their butts. But we are conservative Catholics who have respect for our church and our priests, but The statement did raise eyebrows.

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  14. It is the intention of the archbishop and the neo to water down all the religious orders of Guam , allowing them to die a natural death. All new religious women will be formed by neo off island, and later return to Guam. It is a part of the long term plan to take over the archdiocese, all it's land, property, finances. In the next ten years the entire region would be under the authority of the neo. This is the plan believe me. I was aware of it in 1995. It was a long term plan of twenty Five years to take over Guam and the Mariana islands.

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  15. Here we go again!!
    Bring a subject, any subject, and the Neos go Ape!!!!
    Here we have a very simple issue. The Sisters that have served this community for generations, in a dedicated and selfless manner, are being maligned by some hairhead for getting old, and not creating vocations.
    Wow!!!
    These are the same kind of people that put their parents to pasture because, their busy schedule does not allow them to care for them. We have all seen these wonderful people at work!
    Many Catholics on this blog have taken exception to these slanderous statements and called the detractors of our local
    Sisters out for their outrageous declarations.
    Instead of just saying, "sorry we were wrong, and in the heat of the moment, we said something inappropriate", which would have deflated this sensitive issue..... Our dear Neos, following their now proven motus operandi, have decided to use the Low Road.
    Nothing surprising here, since we have witnessed this propencity to act in such manner, in this blog over the last few months.
    I guess arrogance and narcissism blind these persons to see, the folly of repeating the same mistake over and over again.
    So they choose to keep banging their head against the wall facing them. Surely a divine sign, of their zealous following of the Way. A modern version of the self flagellation used by some in the Middle Ages to prove (to themselves) their own worth.
    After the pathetic attempts to change the subject, time and time again, using the many artifices they have acquired in their panoply; and having seen that the readers of this blog were not buying their poorly laid argument, they went back to their last options: the insult, the lies and the deception.
    How predictable. How despicable. How Low.

    So my dear friends, lets pray for their souls. Tormented as they are by the whisperings of the evil people trying to lead them astray.
    Lets find in our hearts the courage to confront their lies and their deceit, while at the same time forgiving them.
    Forgive, but not forget, because if we did we would be face again by the same evil, under a different mask.
    Lets show our Love and Appreciation to our dear Sisters victim of these attacks. Lets support them in their advancing age. But lets keep protecting them, and by extent ourselves against Evil.
    St Michael the Archangel......

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  16. Kiko has asked the archbishop that his face of Christ painting should appear in every church on Guam , and in every neo home. The three on the hill are waiting for 50 paintings to arrive on Guam before Easter.

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