Seminarians:
- Aukusotino Alailesulu
- Fernando Amaya
- Joseph Cabana
- Gabriel Camacho
- Pedro Durango Agudelo
- Eduardo Andres Guerrero Torrez
- José Santos Hernandez Mejía
- Keone Hurdle
- Viane Ilimaleota
- Edmond Ilg
- Cesar Javier Izaguirre Gonzlaez
- Eneliko Lamositele
- Leaega Leaega
- Tavete Maugautega
- Matteo Matarazzo
- Andrew Meisake
- Martin Muñoz
- Tawaia Natibu
- K. Paul O’Really
- Preston Daniel Perez
- Frenel Phanord
- Andrew Ramirez
- Christian David Ruiz Quntero
- José Angel Salinas Garcia
- Karoro Temate
- Andy Andrew Wilson
- Ashton Wong
- Motua Batiara
- Teeta Timanako
On itinerancy:
- Wilmen Chirini Gonzalez
- Alfonso Jordan Escamilla
- Juan Alberto Gomez Franyutti
- Drazen Hosi
- Darren Santo Tomas
- Victor Vitug
Dear seminarians at the so-called St. John Paul II Seminary, not only are your names not listed, your "seminary" isn't even listed.
What happened to the Arriola boy that was sent to Florida? Is he still a seminarian?
ReplyDeleteTony gave him up to the seminary in Florida. In our lingo it means when he becomes a oriest it will be in Florida and we will never have him back.
DeleteIt was considered a great sacrifice.
What crap!
Never mind, as young as the guarantor is, he had already been brainwashed. Stay in Florida. It's hot there too.
DeleteThe John Paul II Seminary is listed under "seminary" in the website. It just the names of the seminarians that are not listed.
ReplyDeleteNope. Go to www.aganaarch.org. Hover over Seminary and you get RMS and Blessed Diego. No John Paul II. Click on seminary and all you get is RMS.
DeleteSister Anna, RIP used to do all the immigration work. If they are paying an immigration lawyer now.....can someone do the math?? AND, if crappy school is not accredited, how can they get proper visas?????? Huh? The former vice rector....the one before HAROLD, said when he came to Guam ...." I hate Gringos". Archbishop replied, " we are not Gringos, we are Chamorros, and you WILL learn to love us." brilliant. Heard at Gala Dinner before I saw the LIGHT
ReplyDeleteScary part? 98 o/o will be ordained here!! Every Church entity will be neo in five years.
ReplyDeleteYes, but heard he is a guarantor for the new neo seminary there! So maybe he now belongs to the bishop there?
ReplyDeleteCool. A kid as a guarantor. What next, pray tell?
DeleteThis is seriously depressing news. We all know it exists, but it is hitting us in the face that the future is very bleak if something doesn't happen soon.
ReplyDeleteYou are missing quite a few names, Tim! Each of these guys was a seminarian here at one time:
ReplyDelete1. Jun Acebuche, Philippines
2. Daniel Herrera, USA (I heard he has a story to tell.)
3. Felix Babuata, Guam
4. William de Guzman, Guam
5. Osman Urueta Ortiz, Colombia
6. Joshua Aglubat, Guam
7. Luis Tapia Ortega, Ecuador
8. James Arriola, Guam
9. Peter Daniel Perez, Guam
10. James O'Riordan, Ireland
11. Giovanni Uisse, Italy
12. Vincenezo Acamparo, Italy
13. Kodia Zidago, Ivory Coast
14. Juan Jose Hernandez Sandoval, Mexico
15. Joselito Sangoyo, Philippines
16. Michal Niemierski, Poland
17. Jesus Garcia Yelo, Spain
18. Endrit Emiro Urbina Perdomo, Venezuela
19. Gabriel Ramos, Venezuela
Where are they now? Dropped out? Escaped?
There was a Giovanni who fell in love in Europe and left the seminary. I don't know if he also left the NCW. I don't know if he's the same Giovanni listed above.
DeleteBest of luck you guys, wherever you are. How's it going Daniel?? And you are all welcome. We were happy to take care of your every need while you were here. That's just how we are! Yep.
DeleteGuzman still an itinerant.
DeleteWhat happened to. Frend???
DeletePeter, brother to Preston, fell in love too. If he's not married yet, he will be soon!
DeleteIf William de Guzman is still an itinerant, then why isn't he on the "official" list of seminarians?
DeleteBecause he is not a seminarian. He is a wanderer upon the earth evangelizing . Does he support himself? Who knows.
DeleteAnyone concerned about one seminarian who became a public figure by proclaiming his conquests of women? Not mentioning anyone by name.
DeleteUnbelievable that any level headed bishop for practical reasons alone would even consider Incardinating this number of priests into a small island diocese like Guam. From the perspective of finances alone it is simply unacceptable to expect Guam Catholics to pay for all this . makes no sense. .
DeleteAnonymous 9:24 a.m. I am very concerned about the seminarian who proclaimed his conquests of women. I could never respect such a person as a priest, especially since he didn't sound remorseful. I would never approach such a person as a priest. I would caution children and young women to avoid him. He is a "poster child" for why no one should contribute to the "seminary." Considering the values and behavior of his brother, birds of a feather...
DeleteBut it's all ok because they blame it all on their dad. What family values have they all learned from ncw-Kiko? People, it's time to call these fruits to task. There can be no reconciliation until all these idiots find some other community to infest. Anywhere but the Marianas.
DeleteThe factory is churning away. Presbyters, presbyters, presbyters, ,presbyters, presbyters, presbyters, presbyters. Local clergy completely outnumbered. Victory for Kiko, victory for call me Tony! Wait! How is the Annual Appeal going. IF it is not sufficient, guess Arch will have to close JP II Seminary. Well, he tried. But we didn't contribute. OUR fault. Wait.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the facts?? How many neo presbyters do we have here and how many local priests still active? Stats, anyone?
DeleteWill there be a nice photo of Arch A bishop and Kiko? Just like the one with Pope Francis? Full color splashed on cover page od U Matuna? Cuz, I wanna frame it.
DeleteAppeal 250,000? That is NOT REALISTIC. The sum is much more than that. Joke
DeleteArchbishop Apuron. I'm hearing you spent your Holy week spreading untruths about myself.
ReplyDeleteMay I ask you to kindly shut your mouth . I have contacted Archbishop Krebs today to inform him of your latest vicious attacks.
Everyone from AAA to the Pope is responsible for allowing this cancer to grow on our island, and if none of them have the courage to correct things, then I lose faith in the Catholic Church. Not God, but the leaders of His Church here on Earth.
ReplyDeleteWell then Satan wins. Because it doesn't matter how he keeps you from the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, just so long as he does.
DeleteEach individual is responsible for his/her Faith And Salvation through the teachings of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Errant church leaders and faithful will answer to God Almighty. Fortes in Fide!!
DeleteTim @ 9:09,
DeleteI understand your point..I did not mean to lose faith in God or to abandon the church. I'm only referring to the leaders of the Church. The bottom line is that we can't rely on people from foreign lands to fix our problems.
STOP ALL THE MONEY...NOT ONE CENT.
Deletei don't think you have to worry, Fr. Matthew. Everybody in Rome knows Apuron only tells lies.
ReplyDeleteThere are some comments about individual seminarians that I'm not going to publish. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteThe Diocese of Madison Wisconsin is currently undergoing a historic newsworthy campaign to raise $30 million to educate 33 priests. The Diocese has 270,000 Catholics. Think about it. Guam is educating 29 priests (plus the few at John ST. Paul II) with an island population of 160,000 (not all Catholic). Who is paying to educate these men? Guam’s Catholics and a what expense?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/03/02/madison-wisc-diocese-seeks-30m-to-fund-priest-training/
http://host.madison.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/religion/as-number-of-seminarians-surges-madison-diocese-seeks-m-to/article_8498cc8a-2eba-5f07-9d2d-799b5ad4ca6c.html
DeleteArchdiocese of Agana is a deeply divided troubled Church countless souls are now suffering as a result of the failed leadership of Anthony Apuron. A dangerous and callous leadership which I believe has endangered the salvation of Christ's Holy Church. The church is for the salvation of souls. Anthony has not only divided the church he has led souls to abandon the faith and join born again churches. entire region of Guam Saipan needs a solid and holy episcopal leadership . poverty of spirit, poverty of the absence of God is now so frightening I am beginning to wonder if we do need to expel the names of demons.
Best thing seminarians of the perceived John Paul 11 seminary can do is to leave Guam and seek sponsorship from Bishops who sincerely care about vocations. There are bishops ready to sponsor and assign you to established seminaries. you guys are simply pawns being used in a game . Frankly what ever courses you are studying at present many not even be credited in established seminaries. Wasting your time hovering around a decayed archdiocese which has no leadership.
ReplyDeleteFr. Matthew, I completely agree with you regarding this. These men are pawns, being used in a twisted game of the NCW. JPII Seminary was "set up" so people would shut up. All deceitful tactics. In fact, the Annual Appeal does not state that donations will go to RMS or JPII. It simply says one of the purposes is "Supporting the formation of our FUTURE PRIESTS, and God's active work in the SALVATION OF SOULS." (all cap letters not exaggerated) More lies. Future priests? They mean presbyters. They lied to Aaron Quitugua, who refused to be manufactured into their making, and they continue to lie to us.
DeleteI do have a question though - how would they find bishops who would sponsor them, considering they may want to be ordained for Guam? If we don't ordain our local men, we will be completely ransacked by the presbyters who speak heresy and hang out their dirty laundry with their sex issues.
Archbishop Krebs, if you are reading this, is there a way to help our local men so that Guam maintains traditional diocesan priests? What can we do?
If I understand the process correctly, should the seminarians who are living at the John Paul II Seminary seek — and receive — sponsorship from an off-island bishop, they will have to be ordained for the (arch)diocese of the bishop who sponsors them. They will not be ordained for their island home. This is why it is imperative for AAA to sponsor them to study at an accredited, legitimate off-island seminary. To keep them on island, where they continue to receive formation along with the future NCW presbyters does a horrible injustice to them. As has been repeatedly pointed out, the John Paul II "seminary" is no more than a BOARDING HOUSE for the non-NCW seminarians.
DeleteMore like a war zone.
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