Wednesday, November 16, 2016

IN THE NEWS TODAY

Posted by Chuck White

http://www.guampdn.com/story/news/2016/11/14/archdiocese-make-announcement-yona-seminary/93831550/

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28 comments:

  1. I believe (as opposed to Fr. Jeff's "I see no reason for her to lie" statement) Mother Superior Dawn Marie when she said that it was just a coincidence that she happened to be in the office of the leader of the Carmelites who donated the$2 Million dollars for the Yona property when apuron's e-mail asking the Carmelites to lie showed up on her computer.

    My question: was it also a coincidence that there were two press conferences (bombshells) set on the same day, within just a few hours of each other?

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    1. Why is that even a question in your mind? Who cares? The truth came out! Would it make you happy if they did it one day apart? Apuron lied! The Neos have continued to lie. Apuron is so weak he let a priest dictate what an archbishop should do and that priest is not even a part of Guam! Who gives a damn if the two press conferences were simultaneous, back to back or weeks apart. Apuron and his cohorts need to be defrocked! And that is what should concern you and all the real Catholics on Guam. Step out of being anonymous and we can have an intelligent conversation.

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    2. Looks like Mother Dawn did not want to be Silent No More!

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    3. Why is that even a question in your mind? Who cares? The truth came out! Would it make you happy if they did it one day apart? Apuron lied! The Neos have continued to lie. Apuron is so weak he let a priest dictate what an archbishop should do and that priest is not even a part of Guam! Who gives a damn if the two press conferences were simultaneous, back to back or weeks apart. Apuron and his cohorts need to be defrocked! And that is what should concern you and all the real Catholics on Guam. Step out of being anonymous and we can have an intelligent conversation.

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    4. The team working on the Yona property issue had been working for weeks and did not want to make a statement until all the documents were signed and filed, which they knew they had to do before 11/21.

      Mother Dawn had just completed all the details of moving her community to California and was scheduled to leave Guam today, so she decided to make a statement yesterday.

      Call it coincidence if you like. I'll call it Providence and "a long time coming."

      BTW, a similar thing happened a couple weeks ago when the appointment of Archbishop Byrnes was announced on the same day that David Lujan held a press conference to announce the filing of the sex abuse suits.

      There's a lot happening in this archdiocese.

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    5. Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)November 16, 2016 at 11:23 AM

      Let's call it --- God's timing. And I state that not in the context of a joke.

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    6. Conspiracy Theory:

      The Cubs win the World Series
      Donald Trump defeats Hillary Clinton
      The biggest super moon in decades
      Two press conferences in one day shedding the blinding light of truth on the local NCW leaders

      Coincidence? I think not!

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  2. Let this be a wake up call to all those folks that are walking in the way -- those who are actually good, decent people (there are some, I know a few). This is your leadership. Liars, greedy, selfish. Is this the Club you want to be in? I think not. It is never too late to get out. Swallow that pride, use your God-given brains and heart and mind and filter out all the lies and deceit (no, no, your leaders are not persecuted like Jesus was, please at least see that much). If one reads the Diana blog, you can see how the whole brainwashing movement can make the vulnerable feel safe. it is so damn scary. cult behavior and tactics at its core. I feel like once we clean our church out completely, we will still have some fallout from all these folks in the way that didn't know better. victims themselves. scary.

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    1. Thank you Anon @9:49am for your encouragement to "good Neos". As I commented to yesterday's post "Evil Knows No Shame", I invite these "good Neos" to seriously reconsider and re-evaluate their involvement with the NCW, and to make the holy decision to give up their cultic and heretical religion, and to come back home to the Church. Read the handwriting on the wall! The NCW walls are crumbling down, and it will be just a matter of time before this heretical religion is gone. And where will that leave you? Don't be a martyr to a wrong cause! Come back to your Church! Be a prodigal son or a prodigal daughter of Mary. She is waiting for you. You will have done the right thing, and there will be great rejoicing upon your return. (jrsa: 11/16/16)

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  3. 8.16am. when you are a believer in God and stand on the side of Truth no one in this world can touch you not even the most powerful governments of the world.
    Standing on the side of God who is ultimately truth beauty goodness allows extradionary things to happen. God allowed Mother Dawn Marie of Jesus to be in Rev.Mother's office in st.Louis at the exact time the disgraced Archbishop of Guam sent his framed letter. God allowed the evil to be shown. He used Mother Dawn Marie of Jesus a holy contemplative woman of grace charm beauty to bring about truth and freedom to Guam. Mother Dawn Marie of Jesus following her founder St. Theresa is a reformer of the Church.
    Regarding Mother's press conference yesterday . God alone acts at a time of His own plan. Mother spoke at the appointed time. The appointed time is God's time. we do not know the time or the hour.The fact Archbishop Hon followed Mother Dawn Marie is a clear sign that he also stands on the side of God. In fact all who stand up for truth Tim Rohr CCOG LFM some priests, protestors, the victims, they all stand on the side of God. This is why they were empowered by His grace to remove evil.The ncw unfortunately do not have God with them. They belong to the world of darkness, Sin destruction. They have no place on Guam.
    Mother Dawn Marie of Jesus is a very holy woman. Mother along with Tim ,the protestors ,are the heros of Guam.The loyal men and women who formed a spiritual military to save the Church on Guam . To God alone be the praise glory and honor for ever and ever. God Bless Mother Dawn Marie of Jesus.

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  4. I would like to think that it was an act of God that placed Mother Superior Dawn Marie in the Carmelite leader's office just when apuron's e-mail arrived.
    (right place, right time). I would also like to think the same thing for the press conferences held on the same day.

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  5. “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them"(Matthew 7:15-16a).

    This is proof that the NCW is NOT a charism of the Holy Spirit, even calling it a Protestant-Jewish heresy masquerading as a Catholic is giving it too much dignity. Every parish (worldwide) needs to know about this evil cult/sect that has infiltrated our beloved Church, we need to stop this cancer spreading and eradicate it.

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  6. someone should check up on Alberto Rodriguez. Heard from a friend in Agana that he took off for a week to celebrate his birthday. Do Agat Parishioners know about this. hmmm........ I wonder.

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  7. I remember when we had that prayer procession/rally from St. Anthony to the Carmelites Home in Tamuning during the visit of Archbishop Hon and Krebs and when we were about to leave, Mother Dawn told all of us to continue with what we were doing and she will continue to pray for us. God bless Mother Dawn Marie.

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    1. Yes, Ebet; I do remember the very kind treatment she gave the protestors even back then before we even began our formal protests at Agana - even inviting us into their monastery. I suggest CCOG reaches out to her to thank her personally on behalf of all of us for her encouraging words then, and for her subsequent actions this week. I wish we can have access to her email. I, personally, would like to reach out to her, and the rest of her contemplative nuns. (jrsa: 11/16/16)

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    2. Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)November 17, 2016 at 4:35 AM

      My direct experiences and personal memories of Guam’s Carmelites go some decades back. Since Ebet and JR are sharing a remembrance, I’ll jump in and share the couple that I have. First, I must get it off my chest that I’m absolutely bummed that the Carmelites have left the island! Even though I didn’t see them (because they were cloistered), references to them and their existence on the island were part of my childhood. We knew they were around and prayed for us, even though we didn’t see them.

      In the 7th grade I had a project to write about the various communities of sisters that lived on the island. Among the communities I chose was the Carmelite. I found them to be mysterious since we didn’t see them out and about as we did sisters from other communities. I wrote to request, and was granted, an interview with any one of the sisters. The interview took place at the Carmelite convent in Malojloj which was conducted with a wall serving as a screen between me and the Carmelite sister (whose name I forgot!) in keeping with the cloistered nature of their order. After watching the video of Mother Dawn Marie’s public statement on the RMS earlier this week, I thought back to the time of that interview many decades ago and felt a flood of gratitude that the sisters made the time and gave the 12-year-old kid in me a chance to interview one of them. It’s easy to dismiss a request from a kid, but they didn’t!

      My second story involves my wedding in Seattle some few decades ago. My Nina on Guam could not come out to Seattle for the wedding. Unbeknown to me she did a sweet thing and arranged for the Carmelite sisters to make the ring pillow, the pillows for the bride and groom’s kneelers, and the veil that is pinned on the bride and groom at the wedding mass. I was overcome when I received the package in the mail containing all those wedding accouterments handmade by the Carmelites. Through those things, my Nina and the Carmelites were part of my wedding day --- and always will be! After viewing the video of Mother Dawn Marie’s public statement, I was moved to opened my box of wedding momentos because I wanted to touch the veil and the pillows made by the sisters. They still look brand new almost three decades later! Thank you, Carmelites sisters for being a part of my childhood on Guam!

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  8. Since the fact finding committee appointed by Apostolic delegate found the RMS seminary deficient in its priest formation program, and recommended it be shut down, What may I ask are we waiting for? Shut that fake seminary down, transfer all the seminarians to approved seminaries and have their countries or dioceses pay for their formation. And since this blog has exposed all the evil that the NCW is what are we waiting for, get rid of them already. Have these NEO missionaries and clergy return to where they came from. And while we are cleaning house, Defrock Apuron, Quitugua, Adrian, Alberto, Claros and anyone involved in this action to give away Church property, hiding sex offenders, deceiving the faithful of Guam, bilking the faithful of Guam all these years that the NEOS have been on island and causing division within the church.

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    1. As of Byrne's appointment, all of this is in his hands.

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  9. WTH are these neo's learning. " Our community described as darkness sin."
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    AnonymousNovember 16, 2016 at 2:03 PM
    Have you read comment 8.16am other blog. Mother Superior is viewed as a saint. Our community described as darkness sin. Archbishop Hon do you see the problem. The way is being persecuated in disturbing language. Nuns are made saints.
    Disturbing .

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    1. Guess we have the right to call someone a saint just as the NCW call Kiko and Carmen saints.

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    2. In response to Dianablog (aka dianablo) @2:03 PM, isn't persecution the central mantra in your sect? Why are you complaining? Does Pius know you are bellyaching? The word is "persecuted" not "persecuated." You seem to mistake revealing truth as persecution. Boohoo! Study some more, leave us adults to take care of this. Also, by virtue of baptism we are all called to be saints, to be holy and true to the mandates of Church Magisterium and virtuous living. Even you, dear child, are called to be the saint God wants you to be. So, get to it!

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  10. people must remember twenty two years ago a highly dysfunctional priest from Malta edged his way into Guam through Adrian David ultimately through Apuron. He was given the freedom to take over slowly the Archdiocese. He introduced the most evil agenda to gain power control over Apuron. Together they destroyed lives leaving a deplorable state of affairs on Guam.
    Together they not only destroyed individuals but a carmel monastery.
    NCW is an evil dark dysfunctional group that we must all work to remove from our shores.
    we will not stop until RMS is closed. We will not stop until Apuron is removed. This is the only way we can remove evil from the region.

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  11. Apuron is so in deep kaka! How can he get out of this mess he foolishly created? Apuron, man up and take responsibility! You lying bastard! We trusted you because you were supposed to be the spiritual leader of Guam but you squandered that trust and enmeshed the entire Archdiocese because of your lies! You traumatized the young, and you deserve to have that millstone around your neck! Take responsibility for once for all the pain you have caused everyone starting with your Agat escapades and be truthful about your sexual predatory vices! Truth triumphs over deception - fool us once shame on you, fool us twice shame on us!

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  12. Anon @ 5:17PM. You've been so totally brainwashed that you continue
    to deny the truths that have been revealed, well substantiated and
    supported by the Pope through his appointments of Abps. Hon and Byrnes. How ironic that you also use what seems to be the standard NCW defence of "persecution" espoused by Kiko, Pius, Uduvaldo and all Neo cohorts. As the ole saying goes: "The truth shall set you free." Ann A.

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  13. To ALL the neos on Guam, let me say something you can understand: ¡Vete a la verga! Simply put, it means, "Get the ... outta here! Go run to your kiko-god and see how far that takes you! He does not care about you, just your ability to expand his empire of lies and deceit. As for us, we will flourish in the new leadership of Archbishop Byrnes and restore Roman Catholicism on our shores. We will be rid of your non-GIRM conformity in the liturgy, we will have single Easter Vigil in parishes, we will not have to support ridiculous programs to justify your sub-par presbyters and seminarian-rejects, etc. Do not worry, we will visit apuron and his ilk at the Dept of Corrections to comply with our corporal works of mercy. ¡Vete a la verga!

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    1. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaNovember 17, 2016 at 7:43 AM

      Anonymous November 16 at 9:12 PM, while I'm not a fan of KikoBots like Apuron, Pius, David, Adrian, Edivaldo, the Delusional Dingbat Diana, Deacon Tenorio (who may not actually be a member but supports Apuron 100%), the "Trained Lawyer" and "Tricky Dick" among others, I cannot support your general demand for "ALL Neos on Guam" to get out of Guam.

      There are many NCW members who are not at all like those I listed above. There are many NCW members who joined the cult in search of support while they were experiencing difficulties in their lives — marriage in trouble, death of loved ones, for example — and the NCW communities provided what was needed. There are others who joined because they wanted to learn more about their Faith and, because they didn't know enough of what the Church actually teaches, failed to recognize the Kiko heresies being taught. There are many NCW members who are family, relatives and friends who need us to guide them back into the embrace of our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

      To the KikoBots, I say "Good riddance!"
      To the NCW members who have been on the sidelines who have come to the realization that you are in a heretical cult, come home. We are here for you.


      BTW: I will continue to picket with the LFM on Sunday mornings in front of the Cathedral-Basilica 0900-0945 as long as Anthony Sablan Apuron holds the title of "Archbishop" — even after Archbishop Byrnes arrives. Anonymous at 9:12PM, I invite you to join us.

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    2. Excellent points, Mary Lou. For some reason the NCW leaders have a need to hold on to their power and position. This is a natural human tendency. But it has gone beyond that. There is a palpable sense of paranoia and desperation. While I have hope that they can eventually "see the light" I won't be holding my breath.

      Many times I and others have said we have no problem with the NCW members who joined to deepen their faith. They entered with good intentions. Some stayed in and some left. That is fine. I have a BIG problem with anyone in the NCW who views us who are not in the "Way" as immature Catholics, not fully living the life Christ calls us to live, etc. This is one part of the division within the laity: Neo vs. Non-neo.

      There have been quite a few comments by NCW members worried about their continued existence in Guam. For these people I offer the following:

      The Catholic Church existed for two millennia before the NCW was founded. The Catholic Church was established on earth by our Lord Jesus Christ and will continue in spite of all the evil in the world. If you feel that you cannot be Catholic without the NCW something is seriously wrong. Please examine your conscience. Think about what you have learned. Did Jesus say, "No one comes to the Father except through me via the Neocatechumenal Way"? Please think and pray about this.

      We have endured an extraordinary time of pain, suffering, anger and bitterness. We have the opportunity to start anew with a shepherd to lead this flock. Are we going to let this opportunity slip by? Are we going to allow the division to continue and prevent us from being One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church? We all have choices to make. Let's accept this gift of a new start and move forward together in Christ.

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    3. I concur with Mary Lou and Andrew.

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