Friday, June 13, 2014

YAWN

Copied from a comment left here. I originally posted this from my phone earlier and was not able to format it at the time. The comment has now been formatted and my comments are in red. 


*****



Another LIE stated about the meeting at the Chancery yesterday. Can someone provide the Archbishop's letter! Post from Diana

BEHIND THE CHANCERY WALLS - ERRATUM 2.0


The outrage over Tim Rohr's obtaining a copy of Cardinal Tagle's letter has reached fever pitch and is producing the most incredible accusations: evil scheme, international plot, even collusion with Freemasonry. Wow! 

The reason for the outrage of course is that for weeks the kiko's (militant neos) were taking great glee in the fact that someone so important as Cardinal Tagle, the archbishop of one of the largest dioceses in the world, had personally invited not only the one and only Kiko Arguello to Manila but that the Neo communities of Guam had been personally invited as well. 

Thursday, June 12, 2014

SORRY FOR MY POOR ENGLISH (Actually quite good!)


by Tripudio has left a new comment on your post "DONT' RUSH THE BRUSH!": 

Hi,
a few weeks ago I found your blog. I admit I've been surprised how much your blog is similar to ours here in Italy (Osservatorio sul Cammino Neocatecumenale secondo verità: "truth-respecting observatory on the NCW") and our friends in Spain (Crux Sancta). Roman Catholic faith is the same everywhere in the world... and NCW cult is the same everywhere in the world.

Fun fact: you published a page "Kiko catechizes the Pope" a few days before we transcribed Kiko's actual speech from Youtube and published with the same title: "Kiko evangelizza il Papa" - before knowing anything about this blog).

DONT' RUSH THE BRUSH!

They are going nuts over there on the other side. I received the following as a comment which you can see here. To verify the source, the exact comment is copied below from "Diana's" blog.

FOIA COUNCIL PETITION

June 12, 2014

Honorable Rory J. Respicio 
Majority Leader 
Member, FOIA Advisory Council
Suite 302
155 Hesler St. 
Hagåtña, Guam  96910                        
Ph.: (671) 472-7679/3545/6

RE: FOIA COUNCIL PETITION

Senator Respicio:

As per the FOIA Council Information posted on the Legislature's website, the FOIA Council is an ADVISORY council wherein citizen concerns about government transparency are supposed to be brought under advisement, discussed amongst the council members, and a course of action recommended. 

Senator, my FOIA/OG PETITION FORM (attached) was sent to you on 6/11/14 at 4:57PM. I received a reply* from a council member on 6/11/14 at 5:13PM. Wow! Your council had all of 16 minutes to take my petition, file it, call a meeting of the council, discuss it, and decide on a course of action. 

UNSUBSCRIBE

After posting ZENIT: KIKO'S MINISTRY OF PROPAGANDA yesterday, one reader decided to write Zenit about my concerns:
So, I wrote to Junno Arocho Esteves, the author of this Zenit article about the problems with his article. This was his response: 
Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions on the article. While I had attempted to show nothing more that the Eucharist and Easter Vigil celebrated by the parishes with Neocatechumenal Way were permitted, I agree that I may have left things unclear with the title, which dealt more with allowing the celebrations to take place rather than how they are celebrated. While the Neocatechumenal Way has received the support from three Pontiffs and 5 Vatican dicasteries, there are still many misunderstandings on how they carry out their celebrations within the parish. As soon as time permits, I hope some time in the future to write a piece that may go more in depth on the celebrations or seek a liturgist who can help address those concerns from the faithful. My only goal is to report the news that I receive and I hope to do a better job in presenting a balanced view on the subject.
Many thanks for your comments and please feel free to write to me any time. 
Junno Arocho Esteves

Wednesday, June 11, 2014

ZENIT: KIKO'S MINISTRY OF PROPAGANDA

Much of Kiko's agenda depends on his ability to validate himself to his own. Thus the importance of papal photo-ops and the manipulation of every Vatican gesture - no matter how small - into a self-authenticating headline. And here the news organization Zenit.org has proven itself a dutiful servant.

Let's take a headline we have discussed before and look at it more thoroughly: Pope Francis Backs Neocatechumenal Way Liturgy. In this headline, Zenit shows not just a dangerous lack of journalistic integrity, but shows itself to be the Ministry of Neo-Propaganda. Here's why.

1. There is NO such animal as a "Neocatechumenal Way Liturgy". There is only the Roman Rite as governed by the liturgical books with the three small exceptions noted in Article 13 of the 2008 Statute. This is not just a journalistic oversight, it is a clever manipulation of facts and words to give credence to the NCW where there is none.

2. As noted in a previous post, the letter to which the Zenit story refers did not come from Pope Francis but an underling at the Office of General Affairs for the Secretary of State. But Zenit's headline gives a completely different impression: we are led to believe that the letter was in the pope's own hand.

3. The actual letter was a reminder/warning to Kiko to stay within the limits of the Statute, or "his charter", as the pope termed it, if he didn't want to have trouble. But Zenit, knowing that most people would not read the actual letter, set up the story for Kiko to use to validate himself and, literally, "his liturgy". 

Now let's take a look at another Zenit story of which the Kiko's have made much: the appointment of Kiko to the position of consultor to the council for the laity.  Zenit begins: Neocatechumenal Way Initiator Named Consultor for Pontifical Council for the Laity: Pope Francis Confirms Kiko Argüello for 5-Year Term.


The words are rather big sounding to begin with: Consultor, Pontifical, Council. Once again, the Zenit Ministry of Propaganda masterfully manipulates the facts to position them favorably for Kiko. Notice the subheading: Pope Francis Confirms Kiko Arguello... We are led to think that the pope personally called Kiko and laid hands on him. Here are the facts:

  1. The use of the adjective "Pontifical" does not mean that the pope himself has anything directly to do with whatever entity the adjective is modifying. "Pontifical" simply denotes an entity of any sort which operates under the pope's auspices and exists to assist him.
  2. In the case of "Pontifical Councils", they are made up of a cardinal president, a secretary, an under-secretary, members, and then consultors. The consultors are just that: consultors. They offer advice to the members who are the decision makers. 
  3. The pope does not pick or "name" the members or the consultors. He generally only names the cardinal president, who then with the two secretaries, chooses the members and consultors, and often through the assistance and recommendation of other clergy. The pope ultimately confirms the selection as a formality.
  4. The cardinal president for the Pontifical Council of the Laity is Cardinal Stanislaw Ryłko, a Neo sympathizer from way back, so we shouldn't be surprised that he found a way to insert Kiko. 
In fact, "insert" may be what actually happened. An Australian blog, which tracks these types of appointments noted that Kiko was not on the original list:
"However, there is one small item of good news: the Spanish lay man, Kiko Argüello, co-founder of the so-called Neo-Catechumenal Way has not been re-appointed to the PCL. This is further evidence that the star of the Neo-Cats is waning in Rome."
Apparently Rylko and Kiko (they have worked side deals before) did a work around and got Kiko on to the list. But given the Zenit headline, you would think that the pope begged Kiko to be his personal consultant. 

And beyond Zenit's lap dog headline is Zenit's lap dog story...a story featuring only Kiko's selection to a second string position to the council. Along with Kiko there were 13 other lay people appointed to the same position. But there is no Zenit story about any of them, only Kiko, even though some of the other consultors represent lay organizations older and more influential than Kiko's. Here's the list of the other 13 lay consultors (in addition to several from the clergy) that Zenit found no interest in:

1. Alejandra Keen von Wuthenau
The Marian Fraternity of Reconciliation (MFR) 

2. Laurent Landete 
Moderator of the Emmanuel Community

3. Domenico Muolo
Newspaper Journalist of the  Future  (Italy)

4. Marguerite A. Peeters
Director, Institute for Intercultural Dialogue Dynamics, Professor, Urbaniana University (faculty of theology)

5. Prof. Silvia Recchi 
Professor of Canon Law in UCAC Yaounde, Italy

6. Fra Hans Stapel, O.F.M.
Co-founder and president of Fazenda da Esperança – Farms of Hope

7. Maite Bilbao Uribe 
Director General of the Teresian Association

8. Prof. Helen M. Alvaré
Associate Professor of Law, George Mason University 

9. Moysés Louro de Azevedo Filho
Shalom Catholic Community

10. Prof Giorgio Feliciani
Faculty of LAW, Milan - Catholic University of the Sacred Heart

11. Salvatore Martinez
The first lay person to the presidency of the National Renewal in the Holy Spirit.

12. Prof. Andrea Riccardi
Founder of the Community of Sant'Egidio and Professor of Contemporary History at the University of Rome III in Rome, Italy.

13. Maria Emmaus Voce
President Focolare

Did you notice that EIGHT major communities (with the same status as the Neocatechumenal Way) were represented on this list of consultors? You didn't? Okay, let's list them:
  1. The Marian Fraternity of Reconciliation
  2. The Emmanuel Community
  3. Fazenda da Esperança
  4. The Teresian Association
  5. Shalom Catholic Community
  6. National Renewal in the Holy Spirit
  7. The Community of Sant'Egidio
  8. Focolare
And now let's look at the lay people (in addition to several from the clergy) who make up the Members, the actual decision makers:

1. Carl A. Anderson
Supreme Knight - Knights of Columbus

2. Saïd A. Azer (Egypt)

3. Marcello Bedeschi
Catholic Action


5. Pilar Escudero de Jensen
Schoenstatt Marian Movement

6. Yago de la Cierva 
(Spain), lecturer in Crisis Management and Communication at the Faculty of Social Institutional Communications of the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome

7. Jocelyne Khoueiry
Founding member and President of the lay movement “La Femme du 31 Mai-Libanaise

8. Christiana von Habsburg-Lothringen
Her Royal Imperial Highness Archduchess Christiana von Habsburg-Lothringen, Austria, Member of the Pontifical Council for Newborns in Rome at Matej Bel University

9. Fabrice Hadjadj 
Director of the Institut Européen d'Études Anthropologiques Philanthropos in Fribourg (Switzerland)

10. Ms Katarina Hulmanova (Slovakia)
Coordinator of the Catholic Organisations Forum of the Slovak Bishops’ Conference

11. Irene Egle Laumenskaite
Lecturer at the Centre for Religious Studies and Research at the University of Vilnius (Lithuania)

12. Rosa Lai Yuk-fai
President of the Hong Kong Central Council of Catholic Laity

13. Manfred Lütz 
German doctor, Catholic theologian and writer .

14. Franco MIANO
National president of Catholic Action in Italy

15. Prof. Josep Miró i Ardèvol
President, e-Christians

16. Michelle Moran
President, ICCRS – International Charismatic Renewal Services 

17. Prof. Norbert Müller
Johannes Gutenberg University, Institute of Sport Science

18. Geneviève Amélie Mathilde Sanze
representative for Africa in the International Secretariat of Economy of Communion

19. Guilherme Vaz
Director: IL&FS Education & Technology Services Limited (IL&FSETS) is a company constituted in December 1997 as a subsidiary of Infrastructure Leasing & Financial Services (IL&FS) to operate in the education domain.

20. Prof. Karol Źyczkowski
Professor of physics at  Atomic Physics Department, Institute of Physics, of the Jagiellonian University, Cracow, Poland and also at Center for Theoretical Physics of the Polish Academy of Sciences in Warsaw.

Here are the lay organizations represented by the Members:
  1. Knights of Columbus
  2. Catholic Action
  3. National Council for the Laity in Lebanon
  4. Schoenstatt Marian Movement
  5. La Femme due 31 Mai-Libanaise
  6. Catholic Action in Italy 
  7. e-Christians
  8. International Charismatic Renewal Services 
But no story from Zenit, an "international" news organization, about any of them. So if you are wondering about how our chancery was so easily purchased and sold into servitude to this man, just consider how he has so easily turned one of the largest Catholic news agencies into a fawning, servile personal ministry of propaganda. And DON'T get your news from Zenit. 


VISITOR UPDATE

Tuesday, June 10, 2014

A POSTSCRIPT TO THE PREVIOUS POST

So we all now know that four important neo's either had a copy or knew of the letter from Cardinal Tagle on May 29: Jennifer Dulla, Fr. Adrian Cristobal, Msgr. David C. Quitugua, and Archbishop Apuron (and most probably Fr. Pius too).

So "Bernie" and Diana, instead of accusing Tim Rohr of: 
  • withholding confidential information
  • withholding said confidential information with the intent to incite emotions
  • following an evil script
  • following said evil script to entrap readers
  • conducting a shameful hatchet job
  • manipulation
  • collusion with an international plot
  • and engaging in an evil scheme

...why don't you just ask the people named above, your supposed allies, your fellow walkers, your neo-community buddies, your leaders...why don't you just ask them why THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU?

AMAZING!

THE KIKO'S NEVER FAIL TO AMAZE!!!

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "NOW CLICK HERE": 

(Tim's note: I have removed the guess at "Bernie's" last name made by the original commenter. However, the link on "comment" above will take you to the original comment.)

As per a post in Diana's blog by Bernie. Could this be Bernie ...?

Monday, June 9, 2014

I DON'T KNOW. THEY JUST TOLD ME NOT TO PLAY IT.

I figured this would happen. The posting of Cardinal Tagle's letter and exposing the BIG LIE has sent the kikos into a predictable rage. Not able to take me down they are aiming at people who are close to me, particularly priests. 

I don't care if the cowardly kikos come after me. As you have seen, I have put up with months of their cowardly crap. But now that they are trying to hurt others it's time to start with some of the things I haven't wanted to post...till now. 

TIM...I REGRET KNOWING YOU.

On June 7 I received the following comment.


  1. Tim... I regret knowing you.

Not only did I publish it as a comment, I gave it extra prominence by making it its own post. Today I decided to elevate it to a position directly beneath the blog header so it will appear on every page. Here's why:

WE ARE JUST BEGINNING TO SEE THE WRECKAGE

In a recent comment, I was chided by a kiko about the number of people who went forward for a "vocations call" at the recent Party in Paranaque. As we know, the kiko's are monstrously obsessed with numbers (which in itself should tell us something about the authenticity of their Christianity). 

The kiko chided me that he didn't see my daughters go forward. I answered that my daughters listen to God not Kiko. (Of course it is quite easy to see how the kiko's can confuse the two.) But the issue of these "Kiko-calls" at these "Kiko-spectacles" is something that needs to be addressed in a larger way. And so I have.

Sunday, June 8, 2014

CLARIFICATION ON U MATUNA STAFF

In recent comments there appears to be some confusion about the Umatuna Staff. The confusion is due to erroneous information on the Archdiocese of Agana website. 

Under this link 
the following is listed:

FIRST TIME EVER

First time ever 5000 is showing. Thanks again to the haters. You drive this blog.

COMMENT OF THE WEEK


  1. Tim... I regret knowing you.

Saturday, June 7, 2014

APURON MUST DECIDE IF HE IS GOING TO BE A BISHOP OR A BROTHER

"Fooled you all!"
I will respond to this in a post since it has appeared in the comments a couple of times. Here is Diana's explanation:


  1. Dear Catholic United,

    Apparently, there was a miscommunication. The truth is that the NCW in the Philippines invited Kiko and then invited the cardinal to meet with Kiko. An invitation was sent to Kiko from the Philippines, but somewhere there was a miscommunication, which is understandable. Humans will always make simple errors.

ZOLTAN: TIM ROHR'S "INCREDIBLE LEVEL OF DEPRAVITY"

The following was sent to me as a comment but I decided to check my sources to be sure so I am copying it here exactly as it occurs on Diana's blog. Apparently I live rent free inside this poor man's head.

Feel free to read, but heads up, according to Zoltan anyone who opposes the Way is an "ignorant dogmatic traditionalist" and anyone who exposes the truth about them, according to Diana, is a "persecutor". But then you know that. 

ERRATUM?

So here's what the U Matuna did with Cardinal Tagle's letter:



Some points:

1. First, this is badly written. In the first line it says that the "U Matuna reported". And then in the last line we are told that it was not the U Mautna that reported but that the incorrect information was provided in a story that was "submitted". We already know that the U Matuna did NOT report the erroneous information because the byline for the original story said "Jennifer Dulla - For the Umatuna Si Yu'os". So it looks like the U Matuna will need to print an ERRATUM to its ERRATUM. But don't hold your breath. 

BISTADO KA!!!

Here.

Friday, June 6, 2014

NOW CLICK HERE

Let's first reread some choice lines from Diana's Blog. The context is here. The original is here.

DIANA: "All I said is that Kiko was invited to the Phiilippines by the Cardinal."

DIANA: "the Pinoy Catholic website only VERIFIED what I stated.....that the Cardinal DID invite Kiko."

DIANA: "...what Tim is saying is that he has more INSIDE information about their cardinal in the Philippines than the Pinoys (Filipinos) who actually live in their own country. Clearly, this does not sound like a man who is willing to listen."

ANONYMOUS TO DIANA: "Tim Rohr is carelessly looking for a flaw. I hope the guy don't get a stroke swinging at the air. His audience don't realize little by little he is punking out."

Now click here.

DOWNLOAD AND DISTRIBUTE


P.S. Diana "herself" told us where the lie originated: 

"Kiko Arguello will be visiting the Philippines. It is not yet in the news report that after the Philippines, he will be visiting Japan. We know because we received the word from Kiko who told it to the Archbishop and the Team Catechists here in Guam. If you do not believe me, that is not my problem."

CONFIRMED: GUAM NEO EVANGELIZATION HEADQUARTERS IN MANILA


I WANT YOU TO READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY

Diana
Here's a copy of something from Diana's blog that I would like to ask you to read very carefully and to remember what is said here. You will know why I am asking you to do this in a little while. Never mind the comparison of the Archbishop's silence to the silence of Jesus and even Padre Pio. That is so asinine it is not worth a comment. Read the rest...and check back later today. [I added some notes in red.]

UA 183 SEAT 3A

Archbishop was not in 3a lies lies lies. Arcbisnop sat in 33a back plane main cabin. Lies lies lies. Satan will welcome you in hell for your lies. Kiko kiko kiko kiko kiko kiko kiko we love you. Kiko kiko kiko Guam love you. Chant kiko kiko kiko we love you. Kiko kiko kiko Guam love you.


THANK YOU FOR THE PERSECUTIONS

"Persecution". It's a word the Kiko's use to counter any question or challenge to their ways. Like so much of what is "Kiko", it is stolen from true Christianity and made to serve a new master. 

I first heard it used by a Kiko shortly after Archbishop Apuron publicly challenged Cardinal Arinze on KOLG in 2006. The whole island was disturbed by what they had heard. And I was further personally disturbed by the following attempt to cover it up - something I will relate in detail one day soon. 

I had asked a friend who was in the Neo what she thought about the Archbishop's open refusal to comply with the directive from Rome. Her answer: "Thank you for the persecutions."