Sunday, August 21, 2016

PICKET ALL YOU WANT, JUST DON'T GET IN OUR WAY

Posted by Bob, aka Robert Klitzkie

When Staying Out Of The Way Is The Most Important Thing

This morning a tour bus disgorged its load  of members of the Catholic Daughters in front of the Cathedral. A member was heard by one of our picketers to say:
"Picket all you want, just don't get in our way”

PDN: SEMINARIANS WITHDRAWN FROM REDEMPTORIS MATER SEMINARY

Posted by Chuck White

"Up to 10 people from Samoa and American Samoa studying to be future Catholic priests at a Yona seminary were withdrawn from the institution earlier this summer, according to local church officials..."

GUAM DAILY POST: RENUNCIATION OF RMS PROPERTY WILL NOT BE SO SIMPLE

Posted by Chuck White
Klitzkie with 104 protesters at the Cathedral last Sunday.  Guam Daily Post file photo.

"[Hon] concluded his statement with the following: 'Thus, I hereby sincerely ask the collaboration of all the faithful to act with obedience to the directive of the Holy See. And, in particular, I request that community which now enjoys in perpetuity the use of the "property" to spontaneously and effectively renounce, without any litigation, such a benefit obtained from the Archdiocese of Agana.'

'The community' in question is understood to be officials of the Neocatechumenal Way (NCW) who currently operate out of RMS', said Bob Klitzkie, member of the Catholic faith and former senator. Klitzkie told the Post that such a renunciation on the part of 'the community' would be ineffectual because the action that resulted in the now-contentious declaration of deed was done through legal channels. Therefore, he explained, 'only similar proper legal action could transfer the deed title back to the Archdiocese of Agana.'"  Read more.

PIUS THE SAMNUT'S LIE ABOUT JAPAN AND HOW A PHILIPPINE BISHOP SHOWED THE WORLD HOW TO SLAP DOWN THE NEOCATS

Posted by Tim Rohr

The Kiko's like to tell us about their "victory" in Japan, but they'll never tell you about their absolute defeat in the Archdiocese of Lingayen-Dagupan, Philippines. 

A brief review of what happened in Japan is necessary to understand why a supposed "defeat" for the bishops in Japan was an occasion of victory for the Archbishop of Lingayen-Dagupan. 

First, here is the neocat spin about the situation in Japan. This was transcribed from the words of Pius the Samnut at a local neocat convivance about a year ago. You can listen to the recording here. (My comments are in red.)

KIKO'S DEFORMED VISION, PT 1: KIKO'S CHURCH

(Posted by Glaucon Jr)


Remember when you were a kid in school, and you had to start learning algebra? You had to solve for unknowns, like x+2=5. By knowing one addend as well as the sum, we can discover that missing element. In this example of course, x can only be 3. There is no other solution possible.

In the same way, because NCW is so secretive and keeps it teaching from prying theological eyes, we must employ a certain algebraic approach. We know the addend: that they make heretical statements believing them to be Church teaching. We also know that the sum of their catechesis: a conversion of souls that then leads to division in the Church, contempt for non-NCW Catholics, a persecution complex, and a desire to destroy whatever of the Tradition does not meet their worldview.

So what's that unknown that seems so elusive?  Read more. 





Saturday, August 20, 2016

A QUICK NOTE ON HERMENEUTICS

(Posted by Glaucon Jr)


In light of the posts and conversations and demands for the Truth Faith, accountability, and ecclesiastic maneuvering about to come about (at least I hope), we need to say a quick word about the word hermeneutics before we get to it on the NCW on Sunday.

To perhaps overly simplify it, hermeneutics refers to how one interprets a text, particularly Scripture. In a larger sense, it’s how one interprets the world. One’s hermeneutic—whether when dealing with Scripture or not—tends to color everything in the way you see things.

One of my favorite examples comes from Fiddler on the Roof. In the movie, amongst the colorful cast of characters, a young Communist named Perchik (played by Paul Michael Glaser of Starsky and Hutch fame) comes to stay with Tevye’s family in return for school lesson for the younger children. Perchik tells the children the story of Jacob and Laban (Gen.29:15-28), and how Jacob agreed to work for Laban for seven years in return for the hand of his younger daughter Rachel. But after the seven years, Laban pulled the switcheroo, and Jacob wound up marrying the older sister Leah. To get Rachel, Jacob had to work another seven years for her.

“And the moral of the children,” Perchik says: “You can never trust an employer.”

It’s meant as comic relief, particularly since the village is Jewish, and the story deals with the living out of the Jewish faith. Even so, Perchik illustrates how his Communist hermeneutic of class warfare colors everything, including how he reads the Scriptures.

It’s the same thing with the NCW. Kiko’s hermeneutic colors everything, and it’s primarily responsible for why dialogue with the NCW is virtually impossible, why their liturgy is aberrant, their Marian devotion diminished, and their contempt for the Tradition and traditional Catholics so great.


Until then.

THE REAL PROBLEM: GETTING OUR SPIRITUAL LEADERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING!

Posted by Tim Rohr

It appears that Archbishop Hon could use the advice of someone who can read Canon Law. Listed as members of the Archdiocesan Finance Council on the Archdiocese of Agana website are:


Note: While the objectivity of finance council decisions by neocatechumenates (Ada and Quichocho) can certainly be questioned in matters related to RMS (Quichocho is also RMS Board Treasurer), and David C. Quitugua is demonstrably ethically compromised (certificate of title), we'll leave those issues aside for now and continue with the following. 

There are a couple of problems here. The first is that Deacon Dominic Kim is also the Archdiocesan Finance Officer:

Friday, August 19, 2016

PICKETING THIS SUNDAY

Posted by Chuck White

Picketing will resume on Sunday, August 21, 2016 in front of the Cathedral from 9:00-9:45 AM.  

BOB KLITZKIE: "[HON'S] STATEMENT IS REPLETE WITH WEASEL WORDS AND DOUBLE-SPEAK."

Posted by Chuck White

BOB KLITZKIE WITH JESSE LUJAN ON THE BUZZ, AUGUST 19, 2016

Posted by Chuck White

PLEASE PRAY FOR THE REPOSE OF THE SOUL OF PETER QUINTANILLA

Dear Friends,

Peter Quintanilla, the brother of Roy Quintanilla, passed away yesterday. Peter was the youngest of 16 children and was born with Down Syndrome. Those who heard Roy Quintanilla's testimony at the public hearing for Bill 326-33 will recall that caring for his brother, Peter, kept Roy "grounded" in his adult life even as he continued to mentally and psychologically suffer for decades after being sexually molested by a priest he trusted. Let us pray for the repose of Peter's soul and for peace and consolation for Roy and his family. And let us all say a thank you to Roy for his incredible courage. God Bless you, Roy. 

Sincerely, 

JungleWatch Nation

P.S. Many will want to send Roy their personal condolences. Rather than give out his personal contact information, please leave your thoughts in the comments to this post. We will make sure Roy sees them. 

CHINESE CHECKERS AND THE "RETURN" OF THE YONA PROPERTY

Posted by Tim

After Hon's press release hit the news yesterday, as you might expect, I began receiving congratulatory messages. However, for now, I have to say "thanks, but no thanks," and beg the indulgence of my well-wishers. 

Here's why.

Sadly...and confoundedly, it is more Hon double-speak. The first clue is the three-paragraph-long apologia about how he is "ministering" to us in the fashion of Pope Francis and more "the pope sent me" stuff. 

He then proceeds with an almost comical "cover-my-arse" explanation of the Yona property, an explanation which further complicates the issue, misleads the press, suckers the public, and leaves us with little more than a happy face and a lousy game of Chinese checkers. 

APURON DEFIED POPE





BEWARE IN GUAM AS IN JAPAN OF THIS SPIRITUAL GOOD PUBLIC FOUNDATION

Posted by LaPaz, Jungle Watch correspondent from Spain.

While reading last news about Bishop Hon Tai Fai and Redemptoris Mater property, I was remembering times when the Episcopal Conference of Japan asked the Way to stop all "evangelization" there. 

All of us know Pope Benedict XVI finally intervened promoting an aproach between both partners and the Way was not "expelled". Despite the actual situation in Japan, which I don't know, I consider quite interesting  -as always- to have a look at Kiko's words about those facts. 

For Advent and Easter, Kiko uses to visit his personal catechumens and gives them an "announcement", which they will give as well to their dependent communities (through the piramidal structure of catechist teams and parishes). I have found the Advent Announcement of 2010, given in Madrid, and his explanation of the problem in Japan in front of his "very top" followers in terms of internal neocat-hierarchy.



TIME OUT!

Posted by Bruce Williams



AB Hon has just thrown Apurun "under the bus" and contradicted all previous statements he's made regarding the ownership of the RMS property! If we are to believe Hon's "reversal" on the RMS property we should let out a sigh of relief and give thanks to those who have labored for the return of the Yona property to the Church.

Unfortunately Hon's statement, that the Holy See instructed Apurun to annul the RMS deed of restriction with the NCW over a year ago,  raises a big RED FLAG! 

Thursday, August 18, 2016

NEOCATECHUMENAL GIFTS FOR YOUR EMINENCES

Posted by LaPaz, Jungle Watch correspondent from Spain.


How did the Neocatechumenal Way go climbing positions within the catholic Church, since it was seen -for decades- like a cultic threat or a paralell church until its today unquestioned power? Kiko and Carmen have been telling us it was just God sending Holy Spirit ahead to pave the way. 

But reality is not so mystical. When these narrated facts happened, the Way had not yet available its financial structures to move rivers and rivers of money as today does under several foundations at local and worldwide level. In that context, consider what kind of things would the Neocatechumenals have done to "buy" support if they were so in the little...

GUAM DAILY POST: HON CALLS ON SEMINARY TO RETURN PROPERTY

Posted by Chuck White


In the Guam Daily Post:
"Archbishop Savio Hon Tai Fai, the apostolic administrator of the Archdiocese of Agana, yesterday issued an announcement to “the faithful of the archdiocese and local media” in which he called on the Redemptoris Mater Seminary in Yona, “to spontaneously and effectively renounce, without any litigation” the use “in perpetuity” of the seminary property which it obtained from the Archdiocese of Agaña...."

GUAM RMS VS A REAL SEMINARY, (PART III) SECTION B

Posted by Frenchie

It is now a well established fact, that the founders of the NCW used the Goodwill of John Paul II to gain access to many doors inside the Vatican, and that they shamelessly used his name in vain, to advance their agenda of a new version of the "body snatchers". Until now, except for some minor regional setback, they have been successful well behind the real power of their organization.

Guam has been until very recently one of their most striking demonstration of how a Catholic Diocese could be completely taken over. Part of their strategy has been the establishment of the RMS on Guam, which we have demonstrated is nothing but a crude scam.

A little less than two years ago, under the mounting pressure of a public who was becoming more and more aware of the catastrophic situation of the seminary, and slightly a year after the eviction of fr Paul as the vocation Director and his replacement by Cristobal, Archbishop Apuron decided to pull out of his magical hat a new seminary, this one was supposed to be dedicated to the candidates to the priesthood that did not wish to go through the Neos ' system of education.

Never being short on the sensational, Apuron, egged on by his Catechist the evil Pius, decided to name this new institution :

ST. JOHN PAUL THE GREAT ARCHDIOCESAN SEMINARY OF GUAM.

A GREAT CLOUD OF WITNESSES INDEED

(Posted by Glaucon Jr)



A mountain of evidence of heresy from the NCW--from their own mouths, and without mistake. And yet they quote the Catechism to do it? What gives? No one reads her blog, so who cares?

Chuck, LaPaz, Tim, and everyone else have gotten us here. Now we must face the awful truth.





BILL 326-33 - COMMITTEE VOTING SHEET

Below is the committee voting sheet for Bill 326-33. The full Committee Report can be found here. 

Normally, a vote TO DO PASS is an indication of support for a bill, but not always. 

Senators on the committee who voted TO DO PASS are: Frank B. Aguon, Jr., Thomas C Ada, Benjamin J.F. Cruz, Rory Respicio, Nerissa B. Underwood, Anthony V. Ada, Frank F. Blas, Jr.

Senators on the committee who did not vote are: Judith T. Won Pat and Brant T. McCreadie. 

Senators who voted TO REPORT OUT ONLY are Dennis G. Rodriguez and James V. Espaldon. 

A vote TO REPORT OUT ONLY usually indicates some concerns with the bill. We will try to find out what those are. 

Senators not on the committee are: Tina Rose Muna Barnes, Michael F. Q. San Nicolas, Mary Camacho Torres. 


Wednesday, August 17, 2016

Bill 326-33 REPORTED OUT OF COMMITTEE

August 17, 2016 
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 
Substitute Bill No. 326-33 (COR) Committee Report Filed with COR 
(Wednesday, August 17,  2016, HagĂĄtña, Guam) Following the filing of the Committee Report on Substitute Bill No. 326-33 to the Committee on Rules (COR), Senator Frank B. Aguon, Jr. issues the following statement: 
“As Chairman of the Committee on Guam U.S. Military Relocation, Public Safety, and the Judiciary, my responsibility is to ensure that every legislative measure, as introduced and substituted, receives the greatest amount of input by the community, prior to reporting it out of my Committee,” stated Senator Aguon.  “I want to thank Senator Frank Blas, Jr. for introducing Bill No. 326-33, and most especially, I want to thank the Community for their extensive participation and contribution towards this measure during the public hearing process.  The oral and written testimonies from the community, church laity, subject matter experts, legal experts, and alleged victims were comprehensive, eye-opening, and impactful.”  
Senator Aguon further stated “Victims of child sexual abuse never had the opportunity to impose civil liability upon their perpetrators because the civil statute of limitations “window” never opened.  For the first time, As Substituted by the Committee Bill No. 326-33 (COR) will afford renewed opportunity to victims of child sexual abuse to seek redress in court against their perpetrators.” 
“As Substituted by the Committee Bill No. 326-33 (COR) has my full support,” concluded Senator Aguon. 

A copy of the Committee report can be found here: 

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For comments or questions, you may contact the Office of Senator Frank B. Aguon, Jr. at:
 475-GUM1/2(4861/2); or e-mail to: aguon4guam@gmail.com.

WHY 'STOP THE MONEY' WILL NO LONGER WORK

While it has been our mantra for awhile, and while we have indeed brought the chancery people to their knees, forcing them into embarrassing themselves by extending the appeal "ad infinitum" (rather than just the traditional Lenten season), Filoni and Hon already have Plan B: 

Keep RMS open at any cost even if it must be completely funded from the outside. 

Now why would Hon want to do this even though he knows that RMS and its fake academic companion (BDI) are sham operations? 

MEEEELLIONS AND MEEEELLIONS

While doing my last post HON'S REAL SCAM, I referenced the infamous "meeeellions and meeeellions" snarky remark made by the now just as infamous Fr. Francesco Asproni, the Latin "teacher" at RMS/BDI. (LOL) Given where we are now and what Hon is trying to pull on us, it is worth going back to that meeting in 2014 where that STUPID remark was made: 

SPAGHETTI FOR EVERYONE AND GUAM IS THE PROBLEM

The minutes of the clergy meeting with Archbishop Krebs, Tuesday, July 15, 2014

CARDINAL ZEN: HON "EXILED TO GUAM"

Posted by Chuck White


Card. Zen: My concerns over China-Holy See dialogue and repercussions on Chinese Church

"The fact is that one of the two living chinese (sic) Cardinals (and not suspect of senility) is barred from knowing anything about how they are negotiating the affair of the Church in China. There is still a chinese (sic) in “Rome”, but he must be a nuisance,he was exiled to Guam. How sad it is that the proclaimed promoters of dialogue, have suppressed it within the Church."

Tuesday, August 16, 2016

A WORK OF MERCY: INSTRUCT THE IGNORANT, EVEN WHEN IS A BRAVE NEOCATECHUMENAL

Posted by LaPaz, Jungle Watch correspondent from Spain.

"La ignorancia es atrevida", we say in Spanish to mean only the ignorant dare to mess up giving lessons to others. Neocatechumenals are very ignorant and then very brave in their ignorance. 

I am convinced the Neocatechumenal Way is the charism to model perfect brave ignorant people.  In that sense, Opus Dei is the opposite example of well formed people in catholic Church Teachings and Doctrine, so they use to aspire to vanguard positions everywhere. Neocatechumenals are called to be the large populate on streets, those who are carried here and there to clap, sing and dance.