HE IS TO BE "PITIED"

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   AnonymousJuly 30, 2015 at 1:18 PM

   then of course zoltan backs up Diana in the continued beating of a priest who has been alienated and still without a chance of DEFENDING HIS OWN PERSON. plus seeking transparency and other questions we ask but don't get answers. just plain dumb remarks, from the neo.
   
   
   Zoltan July 28, 2015 at 8:47 AM
   
   Dear Joane, please read the answers for your question by Diana. I only give a few more words.
   
   1. Hitting a desk with fist is a sign of emotion. It is no proof that it was related any any way to the much later firing of Fr. Paul by the Archbishop. Where is the evidence?
   
   By the way, I have my own copy of "Target = Priest" from the Agat meeting. It has NO AUTHOR'S NAME printed on it and no publisher's information at all. Another way to say this that this book was written by an anonymous coward who was so afraid of the repercussions that he did not reveal his identity!
   
   
   

AND SO IT ENDS

While Apuron sucks us dry to pay for his 40 plus boys at RMS to appease the Neo-gods and to the tune of $17,000 per year (his words), there is no money for local kids.

Thankfully, at least the statue of St. Thomas found a home next door with the Dominican Sisters:

LOOKS LIKE THE VATICAN IS KEEPING AN EYE ON HAROLD

Vatican City		No	July 21, 2015, 9:17 am	http://www.junglewatch.info/2015/07/being-vice-rector-does-have-its-perks.html

See more about what the Vatican is viewing.

FRENCHIE VS MARIO - (AND DID APURON MISTAKE KIKO-SMOKE FOR SHEKINAH GLORY?)

This exchange between Mario Gomez and Frenchie deserves some attention so I am copying their comments to this post. Mario Gomez is responding to an episode in Frenchie's account of Kiko and Carmen's history. 

Frenchie's account and his replies to Mario are very important to our overall cause because, as I have emphasized from the beginning, getting rid of Apuron or even the NCW on Guam is not our sole aim. 

PICKING ON THE SECOND THING

Continued:

2. The finance board was removed because OBVIOUSLY their best interest was not in the Church due to the fact that they wanted to sell the seminary. The fact that they were unable to sell the seminary is irrelevant. A finance council is supposed to be a good advisor looking out for the best interest of the Church. Advocating for the selling of the seminary is NOT in the best interest of the Church.

This is the myth that these idiots are fed by Apuron and Pius. But even by repeating this Apuron-Pius lie, they themselves are calling Apuron a liar because in Apuron's letter of termination to each of the four people who were terminated, Apuron's stated reason for termination was that their five year term had "expired". So at least the Diana Fools are in agreement with us that Apuron is a LIAR. LOL.

Of course none of these idiots have actually spoken with any of the terminated members of the AFC to ask if they had ever suggested that the property be sold. However, I have. I spoke with Richard Untalan and he said that he indeed had suggested it and for good reason. 

TIM, CAN YOU PICK AT THIS?

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   AnonymousJuly 30, 2015 at 1:11 PM

   tim can you pick at this? found this in the neo blog
   
   DianaJuly 27, 2015 at 9:59 PM
   
   Dear Joane Santos,
   
   1. Father Paul was removed due to disobedience. He was told to remove Lastimosa in 2011. Lastimosa was still doing the same duties as he had always been doing, so in 2013, Father Paul was removed. It never had anything to do with the NCW. If the Archbishop really wanted the NCW in the Dededo Parish, he would simply remove Father Paul from the Dededo Parish the day AFTER Patricia Cottman banged her fist on the table.
   
   2. The finance board was removed because OBVIOUSLY their best interest was not in the Church due to the fact that they wanted to sell the seminary. The fact that they were unable to sell the seminary is irrelevant. A finance council is supposed to be a good advisor looking out for the best interest of the Church. Advocating for the selling of the seminary is NOT in the best interest of the Church.
   
   As for the rest, I already covered that. 

OTHERWISE...DON'T CRY

http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-other-side-of-story.html?showComment=1438162783213

While indeed this is ridiculous, the accusation nevertheless highlights why Apuron and his cronies feel quite smug and secure in their corrupt little holes:

So long as the majority of opposition to their demonstrably evil ways remains limited to anonymous comments on a blog - even tens of thousands of them...

...then there is absolutely no reason for them to worry in the least. 

KIKO AND CARMEN - THE REAL STORY - 7/30/15

This is the latest installment from Frenchie on "The incredible adventures of Carmen and Kiko." The full version with all the installments can be found here. 

Continued: the incredible adventures of Carmen and Kiko.

The idea that sold Archbishop Casimiro Morcillo to contact his good friend and vicar general of Rome Archbishop Angelo Dell'Acqua (the representative of the Pope as Archbishop of Rome) under Pope Paul VI, was that Carmen and Kiko could work the "miracle" they had achieved in Madrid.

BOOKS IN STOCK

Two important books I always promote at the CCOG Village meetings are the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Triumph: The Power and the Glory of the Catholic Church. 

The Catechism so that we can know first hand what our Church wants us to know about our Catholic Faith, and the book Triumph because it is a very readable and exciting history of the Catholic Church - which helps us to better understand our current challenge.

In addition, I carry a small variety of other books. Here's what I currently have on hand. (Note: temporarily out of My Daily Bread and My Daily Life. Order is on its way.)

Check back on this page for updates.

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The CCOG will be having a village meeting on July 30, 2015 at 6pm at the Barrigada Community Center across the street from San Vicente Church.

KIKO AND CARMEN - THE REAL STORY - 7/29/15

This is the latest installment from Frenchie on "The incredible adventures of Carmen and Kiko." The full version with all the installments can be found here. 

In 1963/1964 the Catholic Church was going through radical changes, unseen in centuries.

What is now known as Vatican II, had been a long, drawn out fight between the different currents of philosophy of the Church. In Spain, like in most of the Spanish speaking world, the leaders of the Church were for the most part against reforms, seeing it as an unholy intrusion of Masonic and Jewish moles in the Vatican. (this whole section would merit a whole book). They had supported Franco in the civil war and its aftermath, because he was opposing such intrusions.

THROWING FD UNDER THE BUS

There has been something bothering me that I wanted to get back to: Archbishop Apuron's response to a Toto parishioner about the neo-priest (who Apuron pretended not to know) who taught the permanent diaconate candidates that Jesus was a sinner. Here's the exchange again:

THE DEMONSTRABLE MENTAL LAPSE OF A KIKO-ITE

Some may think that the incomprehensible and outrageous comments of Zoltan are just a distraction and should be disregarded. I maintain that error must be exposed and gutted wherever it may be found, no matter how ridiculous and no matter the source. Kiko Arguello was once a distraction. The Neocatechumenal Way on Guam was once a distraction. The Rhino beetle was once a distraction. But Zoltan is more than a distraction. He is a window into the KAKA-filled mind of a kiko-ite. And thus...very useful.

After posting TIM ROHR: THE BUSINESSIST and noting that Zoltan had mockingly used the term in his oft-repeated accusation of my being in this just for the money, Zoltan sent the following comment:

TIM ROHR: THE "BUSINESSIST"

Speaking of Zoltan - who has accused me of being a "businessist" and only in this to make money selling my books. LOL, Zoltan, here's the statement from my publisher for my second quarter earnings. Maybe I shouldn't allow customers to set their own price. 

MORE FROM ZOLTAN...AND MORE REASON TO CONTINUE OUR MISSION

1. ZoltanJuly 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM

   What is really frightening is the advanced technique and psychological mechanism CCoG operatives employ to stir hatred and demonize people at these meetings for fund raising purposes. We read a lot about violence, even murder, in the mainland by people who believe those who demonize others. Tell me, who is really responsible, those who pull the trigger or those who demonize others?
   
   Well, by reason of group dynamics, these haters can only succeed if nobody counters them at the spot. They must be exposed as riding on other people's emotions in order to raise funds for personal gain. Now, they need money to pay attorneys so that they can bring lawsuit against the church. But their manipulations are so transparent. The audience is always willing to hear the opposite side, as well, if there is somebody there to present the opposing views. Then, hatred becomes an option among many others and eventually will die out. No sane people choose hatred when there are other choices.

KIKO AND CARMEN - THE REAL STORY

So as not to miss any episode of Frenchie's serial expose of Kiko and Carmen's personal history, I will publish the most recent episodes as individual posts as well as copy them to the post which compiles all the episodes. Below are the episodes received today thus far (2), and here is the link to the full version. 

Continued (7/27/15)

As we mentioned earlier, most information regarding Kiko and Carmen is very scripted, from almost the beginning. Wikipedia for instance, is obviously an advertising page, straight out of the NCW webpage.

BTW, MR. PEREZ WAS NOT AT THE MEETING

Are you ready for some side-splitting funnies???

ZOLTAN: During the meeting, someone yelled at me, I was accused that I am a colonizer and should go back to my country. Nobody countered that. I requested opportunity from Vangie Lujan to respond, who moderated the discussion, based on personal attack. Vangie wanted to allow me to respond to the charge, but Greg Perez overrode her and closed the discussion. It was after the end of the meeting when I told Vangie that I was denied to respond to a personal attack and this could come out in the newspapers.

COMPLETE INCOMPETENCE and MUCH TO WEEP ABOUT

I received a call from Fr. Jeff this past Saturday. He advised me that there was no correction regarding the decree renaming the Boy's Chapel in this week's U Matuna as "expected." Here is what Fr. Jeff wrote last week:

On Thursday July 16th, I called Fr. Adrian to follow up on the “correction.” I was told that the correction has not taken place but I could expect it by the July 26th issue of the Umatuna Si Yu’us. I am hopeful that a new decree (without the name change) will be issued soon.

Fr. Jeff explained that despite the fact that there was no "correction" in the "July 26 issue of the U Matuna," Fr. Adrian was "working on it." 

I explained to Fr. Jeff that all Fr. Adrian was "working on" was his next lie. Fr. Jeff declined to say any more...which was a smart thing to do. There really is nothing else to say. Fr. Adrian lies and lies and lies.

Now let's look at something else in Fr. Jeff's original explanation that should be a red flag to Rome:

EXPOSING THE KIKO-BEAST IN OUR MIDST

Chuck White is being very accommodating in only suggesting that this "professor" is an "academic hack". The "professor" is not here to teach at the University of Guam. He is here to do the same thing his kiko-beast-presbyter counterparts are here to do: destroy the Catholic faith from within and replace it with Kiko's heretical theology. 

And due to Apuron, Guam just happens to be the most hospitable place in the world for this disease to fester.

The "professor" and his kiko-beast-presbyter counterparts, like the good alinsky-ites that they are, do this subtly at first under the guise of appearing to be credible and normal. Thus the disguise as a university and RMS professor. But the "professor" is really a kiko-beast-missionary. And one doesn't have to look very deep to discover Kiko's rotten agenda.

Once again, Chuck scratches through the thin disguise of the kiko-beast in our midst.

ACADEMIC HACK

by Chuck White

http://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=44346

LETTER TO DORA SALAZAR FROM TOM TANAKA

Dear Dora,

I know you personally and know that you are a very sincere and loving individual, and I am sure that you truly believe what you wrote in the opinion page.  I am one who has been very critical of the actions of Archbishop Apuron and have made numerous postings on Junglewatch.  I would like to use a different analogy to reflect why we feel strongly about the Archbishop’s actions that have led to the struggle that we Catholics are facing.

Let me compare the Archbishop’s role to that of a father of a family for indeed he is the father of Guam's Catholic family.

How would a man's family feel if he left his wife and 10 children for a “younger wife” (NCW came to Guam in 1995) and abandoned his wife of 25 years?  And not only abandon his family, but also sold the family home (RMS) and the assets now belong to the new family. And on top of that, he publicly humiliates his own sons in public.

FIRST HE THREATENED ME

Vangie Lujan has left a new comment on your post "ZOLTAN: "BULLSHIT"":

My recollection of the conversation with Zoltan was not as he suggested. First he threatened me because I didn't want to give him more time to defend himself. He said someone personally attacked him. I suggested that he go over to the person and speak to him directly. He didn't want to, instead he told me that I better WATCH OUT because he is going to get me in the PDN. He was going to tell the PDN all about it. I asked him to make sure he spells my name correctly. My understanding was that he was going to publish how bad I was to him.

He then followed me as I was leaving and said CCOG should try to bring peace. I told he we made every effort to speak to the AAA to resolve our concerns, but that AAA does not want to meet with CCOG. I suggested that he meet with the AAA. He said he does not want to.

CCOG has made numerous request to meet with the AAA, but he refuses to meet with us. His ad hoc committee also does not want to meet.

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LOL. He says the CCOG should try to "bring peace" after he threatens Vangie. Zoltan, you are to be pitied.

ZOLTAN: "BULLSHIT"

As usual, I do not just publish Zoltan's comments, I feature them as their own post. No one has been more helpful than Zoltan in helping us understand the real problem of the Neocatechumenal Way (which is why he even has his own tag-label). So here you go. Read the whole thing first and then I'll provide a version with comments. 

ZoltanJuly 24, 2015 at 7:34 AM

First of all, I thank Tim for giving green light to my comment below.

Dear Joseph, for the record, as a lay person speaking for myself I gave thanks to God that He allowed me to be there in Agat last night. I am not an NCW leader. FYI, I haven't even passed the scrutinies. What I called a superstition at the meeting, spread by radicals, was that Jesus was a "sinner". How could he have been one if He was born of a holy women and being holy himself? Jesus is the Son of God who died for the sinners! It is also a superstition that NCW has a teaching like that. If it would be an official teaching of the NCW, I would stop attending immediately.

ARCHBISHOP APURON, THIS IS NOT JUST "BAD THEOLOGY"

Come to the CCOG meeting in Agat tonight to learn more.

The following conversation was excerpted from a transcript of Archbishop Apuron's visit to the Toto parish.

PARISHIONER (1:00:01)

...I’m confused because being born a Catholic and being raised a Catholic Jesus is not a sinner. But on his homily, he said that He was a sinner. So is this the Neo way of how we perceive Jesus? As Jesus being a sinner? And if it is then I think this whole thing has confused a lot of people and it has probably caused a lot of things the way people perceive their homily and how they preach their way. So I just wanted to confirm with you and ask if Jesus is a sinner.

ARCHBISHOP (01:01:34)

Well I’d like to know who that priest is… protestant. (Conjecture) But I did ask the question in one of the Confirmation kids when I tested, and sometimes I test the kids before Confirmation in the church, and the kid goes to school at Father Duenas and my question to him was, “Did Jesus sin?” and he said, “Yes.”, and then I said, “Wow.”

CCOG VILLAGE MEETING TONIGHT IN AGAT

The Concernced Catholics of Guam will be hosting a village meeting Thursday night, 6pm at the Senior Center across from Mt. Carmel School. Learn about the issues and what you can do.

WHY APURON IS SINGING "NO ONE CAN GET ME"...AND WHY HE MAY NOT BE SINGING SO LOUDLY NOW

Many are frustrated that Rome hasn't removed Apuron for demonstrable gross mismanagement. The article copied below will explain why Rome has not only not removed Apuron but why it has also been mostly silent - not to mention why Apuron continues to dance around his office singing "no one can get me!" 

But it also explains why Apuron is so desperate to prove that he did not alienate the Yona property.

SORRY GENNARINI'S AND "WET-YOUR-PANTS" KIKOS, THIS IS STANDARD

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "BEING VICE-RECTOR DOES HAVE ITS PERKS - ER I MEAN ...":

Interesting note from Diana: